501st vs. Hogwarts

Nah, it's just Dumbledore, now that I think about it Harry'd just be in the way. And Dumbledore would be taking out AT AT's AND the clones, and not just a clone here and there, ALL of them. Death? Not a clone will be killed by Dumbledore. Well, not until they drown to death after the portkeys take them to the middle of the ocean, or under the antarctic ice sheet.

Barrel scrapage? How is it barrel scrapage to say Dumbledore will use powers he is fully capable of using? You just dont have a valid argument for beating the portkeys and you dont like it, so you are lashing out. Its OK, I wouldnt like it either.

Only 500 clones in this battle. thread rules.

Anakin? Voldemort apparates behind Anakin, well out of reach of his lightsaber, and Imperio's him. Crucios him. DEATH SPELLS him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, it's just Dumbledore, now that I think about it Harry'd just be in the way. And Dumbledore would be taking out AT AT's AND the clones, and not just a clone here and there, ALL of them. Death? Not a clone will be killed by Dumbledore. Well, not until they drown to death after the portkeys take them to the middle of the ocean, or under the antarctic ice sheet.

Barrel scrapage? How is it barrel scrapage to say Dumbledore will use powers he is fully capable of using? You just dont have a valid argument for beating the portkeys and you dont like it, so you are lashing out. Its OK, I wouldnt like it either.

Only 500 clones in this battle. thread rules.

Anakin? Voldemort apparates behind Anakin, well out of reach of his lightsaber, and Imperio's him. Crucios him. DEATH SPELLS him.

I see, you cried until it was changed from the entire 501st legion to only 500, still 500 armed men is more than enough.

It's also likely that spells can't be cast while invisible under the cloak of invisibility. Harry was invisible and had to come out of it to cast the unforgivable curse to chase away the Dementor. See, I did some reading too.

So Dumbledore (who just happens to have Harry's cloak now) is going to be seen after his first spell and those Clone's are going to shot his old ass out of the sky.

Vader's precog is going to give him the edge over Voldermort, he'll get first attack, due to his speed. Force-choke him, force-push his ass into a wall hard enough to knock him out etc. He can also just dodge that death spell and quickly counter, easily too.

Ahhh! HE SAID DEATH SPELL, EVERYONE RUN!!!!!!

Dude, wiki counts here, like it or not, just accept it.

Prove it.

You say it's in the rules, I show its not.

We are talking about Albus ****ing Dumbledore here, not some first year hufflepuff.

So basically you don't have any other argument. Good, then no portus from dumbles.

Dumbledore and Harry are under the cloak, invisibile. The land around Hogwarts is thick and bushy, like Endor. If you dont buy the fact that the ground can be used as a portkey, then all Dumbles has to do is enchant every tree in their path. Sooner or later every AT AT will touch one of the trees, and ZAP goodbye AT AT's, goodbye clones.

Except Anakin will be able to sense Dumbledore, even if he's invisible (proof- in ep 2 he senses assassin bugs in another room) and will be able to either direct the clones or take him out personally.

And they can easily burn the trees, OR simply go around them.

Dumbledore solos.
Better?

❌

I've been using the OOTP members for pages and Lum never disputed it, so yeah, until he says so, they count.

Read the opening post again. No mention of the order of the phoenix. If I suddenly started talking about the 501st having Galactus on their side, do I need to have the Tread Starter say he isn't allowed before I stop, cuz I'll do it.

Originally posted by Robtard
I see, you cried until it was changed from the entire 501st legion to only 500, still 500 armed men is more than enough.

It's also likely that spells can't be cast while invisible under the cloak of invisibility. Harry was invisible and had to come out of it to cast the unforgivable curse to chase away the Dementor. See, I did some reading too.

So Dumbledore (who just happens to have Harry's cloak now) is going to be seen after his first spell and those Clone's are going to shot his old ass out of the sky.

Vader's precog is going to give him the edge over Voldermort, he'll get first attack. Force-choke his ass, force-push his ass into a wall hard enough to knock him out etc. He can also just dodge that death spell, easily too.

Spells can be cast while under the cloak, man. If Dumbles is flying around at ground level, all he has to do is slip the very tip of his wand out and cast the portus spell. The clones aren't gonna see that.

Occlumency, dude. Voldemort, a master at Occlumency, will conceal his intent until the spell is cast. Anakin will never see it coming.

Face it, the portkey argument is unbeatable. Lets moveon to the NEXT one.

Anti age spell:

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Spells

[edit] Age-Line SpellPronunciation:Unknown
Description: Creates a line that is impassable by people below a set age.
Seen/Mentioned: Used by Albus Dumbledore to stop underage students from entering their names into the Goblet of Fire.
Notes: The Age-Line is impassable even by users of age-potions (proven by Fred and George Weasley). Thus, it functions on either calendar or mental age, not physical age.

Look here, at 5:51, see that white line surrounding tthe Goblet of fire?

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That is an anti age line. It prevents anyone below a certain age, a set age, set by the caster, in this case, set by Dumbledore. With two hours prep time, Dumbledore can make an age line surrounding Hogwarts that stretches out for miles. He can set the age at say, 40, and no one under the age of 40 would be able to cross it. Or 50, or 60, whatever. The younger wizards inside the castle would be fine, because they are already inside the age line as it is cast, but to anyone outside the age line, it is impassable. Yes, Fred and George did cross the age line, but they took an aging potion enabling them to do so.

So. Anakin and the clones never get close enough to Hogwarts to seize it, much less bombard it.

You see the extent of a wizards power now? You see why I am siding with the wizards, even though every fiber of my being wants to choose Annie and the 501st?

That is an anti age line. It prevents anyone below a certain age, a set age, set by the caster, in this case, set by Dumbledore. With two hours prep time, Dumbledore can make an age line surrounding Hogwarts that stretches out for miles. He can set the age at say, 40, and no one under the age of 40 would be able to cross it. Or 50, or 60, whatever. The younger wizards inside the castle would be fine, because they are already inside the age line as it is cast, but to anyone outside the age line, it is impassable. Yes, Fred and George did cross the age line, but they took an aging potion enabling them to do so.

We have no idea how long it takes to set up that age line, it could be a simple spell, could be 18 hours, so it isn't applicable here.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ahhh! HE SAID DEATH SPELL, EVERYONE RUN!!!!!!

Prove it.

You say it's in the rules, I show its not.

Reading is good:

Originally posted by Impediment
Welcome, everyone to the Movie Versus Forum! Here is the place where you may all pit your favorite movie characters together, beit singular fights or team based. I feel that this may become a thriving place, and I want everyone to have as much fun as possible while posting in here.

However, let's be clear on the rules of the MVF so we do not have any mishaps and/or clutter:

[b]2) Google and Wikipedia are your friends. Use them wisely to find all sorts of neat material for your threads.

-Impediment [/B]

So basically you don't have any other argument. Good, then no portus from dumbles.

Except Anakin will be able to sense Dumbledore, even if he's invisible (proof- in ep 2 he senses assassin bugs in another room) and will be able to either direct the clones or take him out personally.

And they can easily burn the trees, OR simply go around them.

Read the opening post again. [b]No mention of the order of the phoenix. If I suddenly started talking about the 501st having Galactus on their side, do I need to have the Tread Starter say he isn't allowed before I stop, cuz I'll do it. [/B]

Originally posted by Nephthys
We have no idea how long it takes to set up that age line, it could be a simple spell, could be 18 hours, so it isn't applicable here.

18 hours my ass. It will be cast and the clones would not be able to cross it. Nothing implied that the age line is that complex to Dumbledore. Take a look at some fo the spells he casts in OOTP, an age line is as easy as farting to him.

Wiki counts as a supplement, not as canon.

If something in Wiki is supported in the films, yet gives further insight. sure. If Wiki were to say "Dumbledore can create black holes" and there is nothing in the movies to support this, then it doesn't count.

Originally posted by Robtard
Wiki counts as a supplement, not as canon.

If something in Wiki is supported in the films, yet gives further insight. sure. If Wiki were to say "Dumbledore can create black holes" and there is nothing in the movies to support this, then it doesn't count.

Originally posted by Nephthys
We have no idea how long it takes to set up that age line, it could be a simple spell, could be 18 hours, so it isn't applicable here.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Spells

There is no incantation listed for the age line, this implies it is non verbal. Non verbal spells are, well, easier to cast than verbal spells, you know.

Welcome, everyone to the Movie Versus Forum! Here is the place where you may all pit your favorite movie characters together, beit singular fights or team based. I feel that this may become a thriving place, and I want everyone to have as much fun as possible while posting in here.

However, let's be clear on the rules of the MVF so we do not have any mishaps and/or clutter:

2) Google and Wikipedia are your friends. Use them wisely to find all sorts of neat material for your threads.

FIND. Not use.

Wrong, try again, portkeys count here.

Your omniscience is staggering in that you never have to prove something. I only hope that I can degenerate to your level one day.

Anakins sensed the bugs murderous intent, not the bugs themselves.

And dumbledore isn't going to have any murderous intent here?

Since your so fond of wiki, heres this link- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_sense

Notice a little down the page- 'This enables them to feel their environment, detect danger and the location of hidden beings or enemies even through barriers, as well as see in complete darkness'

AT AT's going around trees?

😕

Are.... are you genuinely retarded? I've already told you no AT-AT's. You posted a bloody link for christs sake!

Anyway, the things in the link you posted can go at sixty mph, so yeah, they can go around trees.

Moot point, they arent even needed.

concession accepted.

18 hours my ass. It will be cast and the clones would not be able to cross it. Nothing implied that the age line is that complex to Dumbledore. Take a look at some fo the spells he casts in OOTP, an age line is as easy as farting to him.

Prove it.

You can't, so you can't use it here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Doesnt say that in the forum rules.

Apply logic, sir. This is a "Movie Vs" forum and the "only movie feats count" rule is well known. So Wiki is a supplement, as long as it is also supported by on-screen feats.

Otherwise I'll log into the Wiki section of SW and edit it to say "Clones are completely immune to magic due to their genetic engineering"; by your "logic" now, it will be canon.

You cried until the Clone army was gimped, you cried until Hogwarts was given prep, you really going to try cry about Wiki now? For shame, you thread ruiner.

There is no incantation listed for the age line, this implies it is non verbal. Non verbal spells are, well, easier to cast than verbal spells, you know.

Theres no incantation becuase it happened off panel, which is why we don't know how long it takes to cast. Which is why it can't be used.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bullshit. If this is so, why have I never been banned? Hmm? Why have I only received maybe two or three warnings in all my time here? Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? Go ahead, tell everyone I get abusive. You know full well I only say shit in a retaliatory sense 99.9% of the time.

Likewise: Bullshit.

Because you cry a lot...?

Rubbish, you are a master of gimpery and evidently, self-deception.

Nah, I'm done here. I've presented ways for the wizards to pwn the clones, and no hard evidence has been presented to discredit them. This'll go on for pages and pages, more ignorance or ignoring of wizard powers, I have no interest in it anymore. Frankly, it is starting to bore me.

The portkey scenario is unbeatable. Fact.

The age line scenario is unbeatable. Fact.

I could go on and on and on with different ways the wizards to win, but they will be ignored.

Have fun.

We won't. We need your gimpyness in order to thrive. Come back!! cry

Why Mr-I-twist-shit-to-suit-my-argument-then-drop-it-as-quickly-once-that-same-argument-is-used-against-me, you're looking quite lofty up there on that throne.

Don't let the portal hit your ass on the way out, now.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, I'm done here. I've presented ways for the wizards to pwn the clones, and no hard evidence has been presented to discredit them. This'll go on for pages and pages, more ignorance or ignoring of wizard powers, I have no interest in it anymore. Frankly, it is starting to bore me.

The portkey scenario is unbeatable. Fact.

The age line scenario is unbeatable. Fact.

I could go on and on and on with different ways the wizards to win, but they will be ignored.

Have fun.

Im we've argued those points, shown their weak points,
you've ignored and tried to gimp every facet of the 501st and partially failed.
Now you know what its like then, debating against someone who cannot accept facts that dont suit their biased argument, sticking their fingers in the ears and going nyah nyah nyah and sticking their fingers up at the opposing debator.
You see threads as things to be controlled, rather than learned from.
So its natural that you are bored by them, I guess.

The portkey scenario is beatable: fact

The age line scenario is beatable: fact

You doubtlessly would go on and on with ways for the wizards to win, but none of them would be based on anything scientific.

NO! YOU have fun. 😖hifty:

Peeeeeace. 😛

*sigh* the 501st would win this. Just because Umbridge is there doesnt mean she'd even get the chance to call for help from the dementors in the first place before she got owned. I havent seen them pop up in nano seconds from her saying Dementors APPEAR! This is movie shit not book shit. The 501st are military experts with insane weaponry. Even if they dont get their tanks and stuff. Their rocket launchers, flame throwers, rifles, nades, ect ect will be neough to **** hogwartz up. And the fact that Anakin is there just makes it even worse. Im not even saying Skywalker lives, but he kills almost everyone in his way before dying. Last time I checked a plasma grenade or ion grenade will pretty much kill a person even if it is a wizard. The 501st didnt have horrible aim like the storm troopers in the Original epsidoes 3-6. They defeat hogwartz accordingly simple as that.

They would rock them......rock them like a hurricaaaaaaaaaaaaane. 🙂