501st vs. Hogwarts

Originally posted by jaden101
You do realise that blasters are gas and plasma weapons and not electricity weapons dont you? Not to mention that in many cases, the power packs which operate the weapons and chemical reaction based (like batteries) rather than electronic based.

Unless you're arguing that the Hogwarts magic stops the flow of electrons altogether then there's no logical reason to assume SW weapons won't work.

Not to mention your quote doesn't even say they stop working...It just says they "go haywire".

Computers, televisions and other electronic devices, as well as electricity, are not to be found at Hogwarts. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Hermione indicates that due to the high levels of magic, "substitutes for magic (that) Muggles use" such as computers, radar and electricity "go haywire" around Hogwarts.

It's right there, plain as day, electrical systems go "haywire" around Hogwarts. Anything that draws power off of electricity, whether it is a cell phone, sony walkman, electric shaver, will go "haywire."

Now lets break it down each Clone weapon, one at a time:

BLASTERS: Blasters are activated by power packs, gas cartridges, pretty sure they will work, looking into it now.

LIGHTSABERS: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lightsaber-cutaway.jpg

Look at all those electrical components, they will be going haywire.

VEHICLES: Walkers and what not, their electrical systems will be going haywire, sensors included,.

Haywire literally means out of control.

But hey, if you guys think all those electrical components going haywire will have no impact whatsoever on how the weapon/vehicle/sensors perform, more power to you.

Found this on blasters:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster

edit Laser mechanics
A common DH-17 blaster pistol used by the Rebellion.A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence refers to the pattern's "sameness" in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.

Lasers were generated by introducing energy to a medium, the substance used to generate the beams. Tibanna gas was a frequently favored medium. When an atom of the medium was excited by energy, one or more of its electrons would "jump" to a higher energy level. When the atom stabilized (the point at which the electrons return to their original energy levels), a photon was released. A photon was a "packet" of energy that traveled in both a wave-like and a particulate manner, giving it a high energy level, as well as a high damage rating.

Interpret it as you will. Yes, blasters are powered by gas cartridges, any Star Wars fan with an IQ over 50 knows this. BUT, here:

Lasers were generated by introducing energy to a medium, the substance used to generate the beams. Tibanna gas was a frequently favored medium. When an atom of the medium was excited by energy, one or more of its electrons would "jump" to a higher energy level.

Blasters rely on energy being transferred to the gas cartridge, if this energy is going haywire, is out of control, I highly doubt the blaster will work efficiently, if at all.

You do know they're outside the forbidden forest, hardly close to Hogwarts.

Rogue Jedi
Yes, blasters are powered by gas cartridges, any Star Wars fan with an IQ over 50 knows this.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You do know they're outside the forbidden forest, hardly close to Hogwarts.

Also, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hogwartsmap.jpg

The forbidden forest is right there by the castle, man. Magic is used all over the grounds, surely the barrier extends into the forest and far beyond. You got the Quidditch field and Hogsmeade about the same distance from the castle as the forbidden forest is, surely the tech barrier extends to cover them.

With two hours prep time, the students are evacuated, Voldemort, the Death eaters and other teachers are left behind, and when the Clones weapons fizz out, the wizards attack.

At this point, the wizards will be attacking a bunch of unarmed muggles.

Originally posted by Eminence
There are so many things wrong with this...

Yes, but the Clones are "Just attacking", and are to "Kill everyone inside", this implies they must enter the castle. It's not like the wizards are going to meet them outside and yell "Draw!!!"

They do in every single scenario you've outlined so far.

ven if the Clones opt to bombard from miles away, their mission will not be accomplished if even one wizard lives. At some point, they will have to enter the castle.

Or they could just wait for them to starve to death.

With two hours prep time, the students are evacuated

BFR'ing them.

Voldemort, the Death eaters and other teachers are left behind, and when the Clones weapons fizz out, the wizards attack.

At which point Anakin kicks their ass.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They do in every single scenario you've outlined so far.

Or they could just wait for them to starve to death.

BFR'ing them.

At which point Anakin kicks their ass.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Found this on blasters:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Blaster

edit Laser mechanics
A common DH-17 blaster pistol used by the Rebellion.A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence refers to the pattern's "sameness" in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.

Lasers were generated by introducing energy to a medium, the substance used to generate the beams. Tibanna gas was a frequently favored medium. When an atom of the medium was excited by energy, one or more of its electrons would "jump" to a higher energy level. When the atom stabilized (the point at which the electrons return to their original energy levels), a photon was released. A photon was a "packet" of energy that traveled in both a wave-like and a particulate manner, giving it a high energy level, as well as a high damage rating.

Interpret it as you will. Yes, blasters are powered by gas cartridges, any Star Wars fan with an IQ over 50 knows this. BUT, here:

Lasers were generated by introducing [b]energy to a medium, the substance used to generate the beams. Tibanna gas was a frequently favored medium. When an atom of the medium was excited by energy, one or more of its electrons would "jump" to a higher energy level.

Blasters rely on energy being transferred to the gas cartridge, if this energy is going haywire, is out of control, I highly doubt the blaster will work efficiently, if at all. [/B]

So now you're changing it from "electricity" to "energy"?

You're clutching at straws and making huge interpretations based on nothing but your own conviction that all the 501st's weapons and lightsabers (which are powered by diatium powercells which work using a chemical reaction in the diatium mineral) wont work.

Just because the cutaways says things like "energy modulation circuit" doesn't mean it's referring to electrical energy.

Originally posted by jaden101
So now you're changing it from "electricity" to "energy"?

You're clutching at straws and making huge interpretations based on nothing but your own conviction that all the 501st's weapons and lightsabers (which are powered by diatium powercells which work using a chemical reaction in the diatium mineral) wont work.

Just because the cutaways says things like "energy modulation circuit" doesn't mean it's referring to electrical energy.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
....to win under incredibly gimped circumstances, you mean.

Yes. And..how do you know that they arent more dense as well as big...?

Also. Warps in spacetime create gravity.

You know technically, the mass just causes that until a blackhole is formed, the black hole has no matter at all once it goes to singularity.

Smartarse. 😛

Just when you thought the barrel was finally scraped through, RJ finds a way to dig that extra inch.

LoLz @ "electric devices go haywire, but radios are magic" gimp.

That's actually accuate. ✅

If you think about it, this proves without a doubt that this battle plan AND my last work without a hitch.

I bet the only reason magic disrupts electronics is that magic runs through a carrier field which disrupts it instead of the magic itself. HP magic is biological in nature, obviously. Since the SW Galaxy is advanced enough to have a galactic society, they probably have tech that could shut off the carrier field.

It's a magical spell, dude, not a "tech barrier", it has been loosely called a "tech barrier" but it is indeed magic.

Than why does it only interrupt electronics but not metalwork or peoples clothes? Saying "It's Magic!" is a copout. It comes from something.

It comes from a spell, simple.

Magic usually comes from a diety or some kind of cosmic being. HP magic is biological in nature. So that means it can be understood and negated.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's actually accuate. ✅

If you think about it, this proves without a doubt that this battle plan AND my last work without a hitch.

Yes, my comment on your barrel scraping and ever increasing rediculous attempts to pull some win in this thread was indeed accurate.

Most people would have quit after their fourth or fifth "fail-safe" scenario-gimp blew up in their face, but you are one persistent SOB.

Seriously, the "but except for radios, because they're magic" doesn't make you laugh, at just how ridiculously childish HP is? Tesla and Marconi would shit themselves.