Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, still messed up, bro.
It would be considered morally wrong.
But I also feel a private business should be able to do as they choose. And like I said above, no race of people should feel robbed here, every group has their own private benefits that only they are allowed to use.
Originally posted by KidRock
It would be considered morally wrong.But I also feel a private business should be able to do as they choose. And like I said above, no race of people should feel robbed here, every group has their own private benefits that only they are allowed to use.
Though I assume you will hardly argue that all added up the advantages with equal out?
I think that the business should fear severe repurcussions, I think people should stand up, outside protesting it, spreading the word about their racism around everywhere, perhaps getting that thing to close down (since loud black people in front of it must be almost as fearful as their dirty skins inside the water). Because being so blatantly racist is wrong imo, and people shouldn't take it lying down. But you are right, it's a private business and they can do it if they want.
"The Creative Steps Day Camp paid more than $1900 to The Valley Swim Club. The Valley Swim Club is a private club that advertises open membership."
False advertising, sue them.
Like what, they thought this wouldn't get headlines? Thought no one would care? Not only are they disgusting racists but they're idiots as well.
Originally posted by KidRock
Or I guess you would be cool with me coming over your house and swimming around in your pool without your permission right? You wouldn't try to enforce the rules of your own swimming pool and just let me use it whenever I want, correct?
Also this is an extraordinarily stupid false analogy, there is no comparison to be had between your situation and the actual situation other than they both involve a body of water.
These kids aren't just wandering onto private properly randomly and swimming in some resident's pool without their knowledge, they BOUGHT their time via a perfectly legal and valid transaction that the owners of the pool previously agreed to, only to have that transaction retroactively retracted because of their race.
A more fitting analogy would be going to a restaurant, getting seated, ordering food, and then having the owner come out and kick you out for having freckles, saying they'll reimburse you for the money, since that makes it all okay.
Originally posted by KidRock
It would be considered morally wrong.But I also feel a private business should be able to do as they choose. And like I said above, no race of people should feel robbed here, every group has their own private benefits that only they are allowed to use.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i think it is funny and the pool club pl can do what ever they want but if they had told me anything me and my buddies would trash their building. i probably beat the dude for telling me anything of the sort about why i need to leave.i think the negative press they will be getting will be enough to close the place down when ppl start shunning them.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Simple question: If there was a law saying people could murder on private property, would you support people doing so?
There are already laws like that.
If someone invaded my home (well say I lived in Texas, I don't know the CT law) I can legally shoot them dead.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Though I assume you will hardly argue that all added up the advantages with equal out?I think that the business should fear severe repurcussions, I think people should stand up, outside protesting it, spreading the word about their racism around everywhere, perhaps getting that thing to close down (since loud black people in front of it must be almost as fearful as their dirty skins inside the water). Because being so blatantly racist is wrong imo, and people shouldn't take it lying down. But you are right, it's a private business and they can do it if they want.
I am arguing from a purely legal standpoint. These people are clearly racist and despicable. Protests by the white patrons of the pool should really happen, but from a legal perspective these people shouldn't face any charges.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
its still fine today, when i meant strong i also meant money and connections as well but you also have to have the mentality to act and use your resources in unsavory manner. the last three ppl i knocked out were all upper class preppy bullies... i did it knowing full well they would get the police involved and i still gave them a near death beating and allowed a "friend" of mine to explain the situation to them.i later allowed them to speak with to on base security/ chain of command and no one wanted to press charges from the highest ranking officer to the lowest ranking MP. thats called power, fear and respect.
those three guys were in fear for their life and realized all the money their mommies and daddy's make dont mean anything when your facing some one who lacks a moral compass similar to your own.
if ppl want to go to court and sue thats fine it doesnt change the fact that they are p@$@$'s and they'll get a worse beating from me later and a visit from my friends or family in the middle of the night.
That's utter bullshit.
They didn't press charges because they feared you. 😬 Beyond that, I cannot conclude if the story is truth, why the didn't press charges, etc. But to think that three different military men didn't press charges because they feared for their life is ridiculous.
Originally posted by KidRock
There are already laws like that.If someone invaded my home (well say I lived in Texas, I don't know the CT law) I can legally shoot them dead.
Okay, but this time you invited them over and then shot them dead. Still on private property so it must be morally justified right?
Originally posted by KidRock
There are already laws like that.If someone invaded my home (well say I lived in Texas, I don't know the CT law) I can legally shoot them dead.
Morality is relative, especially on this board. Hell, I've seen someone in the GDF defend statuatory rape and murder because it didn't go against their morals. (note to all knuckleheads out there...that was a general statement and doesn't reflect my views on the matter...thank you for reading my disclaimer)
Bardock does an excellent job of pointing out the relativity of morality by taking outlandish views on sensitive topics. Often, it's such a good job that I have absolutely no clue if he's serious or not.
A business can throw you out because you are being distributive or being a dick or not serve you if you are not wearing a shirt or you have a foul body order or fitly. All of these things can be considered discrimination. Legally they are correct with their private membership just as the Boy Scouts can not let in girls, gays or Atheists. You can still protest them, talk about them in the news and boycott them all that you like.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the last three ppl i knocked out were all upper class preppy bullies... i did it knowing full well they would get the police involved and i still gave them a near death beating and allowed a "friend" of mine to explain the situation to them.i later allowed them to speak with to on base security/ chain of command and no one wanted to press charges from the highest ranking officer to the lowest ranking MP. thats called power, fear and respect.
those three guys were in fear for their life and realized all the money their mommies and daddy's make dont mean anything when your facing some one who lacks a moral compass similar to your own.
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Do you actually think anyone believes you when you come out with this utter bullshit?
Originally posted by Wild ShadowThat is complete and udder BS, if they didn't press charges on you it is not because of fear and respect if this even happened at all. The UCMJ would have your ass in a sling just for them reporting it.
its still fine today, when i meant strong i also meant money and connections as well but you also have to have the mentality to act and use your resources in unsavory manner. the last three ppl i knocked out were all upper class preppy bullies... i did it knowing full well they would get the police involved and i still gave them a near death beating and allowed a "friend" of mine to explain the situation to them.i later allowed them to speak with to on base security/ chain of command and no one wanted to press charges from the highest ranking officer to the lowest ranking MP. thats called power, fear and respect.
those three guys were in fear for their life and realized all the money their mommies and daddy's make dont mean anything when your facing some one who lacks a moral compass similar to your own.
if ppl want to go to court and sue thats fine it doesnt change the fact that they are p@$@$'s and they'll get a worse beating from me later and a visit from my friends or family in the middle of the night.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
That is complete and udder BS, if they didn't press charges on you it is not because of fear and respect if this even happened at all. The UCMJ would have your ass in a sling just for them reporting it.
I do doubt that it happened at all, his whole anecdotes seem very fishy to me.
Oh, and it is "utter", udder is the boob of a cow...