Private Pool to children of color: White kids only

Originally posted by Bardock42
Additional information which make your story again more believable, you should really work on making something you tell fit within itself. Though, the claim that they didn't press charges because they feared for their lifes still seems unsubstantiated.

they were scared poopless from me and my friend who did threaten to do more to them and he wasnt in the military he was my civilian friend who i would allow to handle certain matters for me that i couldnt get involved with take that however you want.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
they were scared poopless from me and my friend who did threaten to do more to them and he wasnt in the military he was my civilian friend who i would allow to handle certain matters for me that i couldnt get involved with take that however you want.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
its the same story i just didnt feel the need to be too specific why i did it. most ppl who think that beating raping and murdering ppl will get you sent to jail or court is extremely naive or ignorant to how the world really works.

Yeah yeah....but no. It's the exact opposite. Those who think killing a rapist or murderer will not net you trouble with the law are extremely naive or ignorant. It would fall under second degree murder (or even first), especially if you said you itended to beat them to death. 😐

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i have bn in plenty of fights in my adult life

I've been in NONE in my adult life because I'm not an idiot.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
and have only bn to court once and i won my case.

We know so little of the circumstances and also the fact that you could be lying about everything.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
aside from that how stupid or fearless some ppl would need to be to press charges against certain ppl.

Very illogical.

They have entire organizations and lawyers dedicated to child and spouse abuse. Obviously, someone is getting told on. 😐

What you're saying is baseless and questionably anecdotal, at best.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
their is a reason your average person refuse to testify in court when it involves a group of ppl.

Evidence?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
now i dont need you guys who probably never bn in a real fight

I was a retarded, immature, scrapper, when I was underage. Any excuse was good enough for me to fight. 😐

Turning 18 was the limit. I don't want jail time and I don't want a recod.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
or served in the military to tell me what would happen in the service,

I am in a minority in my family. Very few males in my family don't serve in the military. Hell, even my godbrothers served in the military.

Also, at my job, I work around quite a few military personnel and retirees.

You can't tell me what will or will not happen in the military.

Straight up, I call B.S., especially when your superiors and the MP were aware of the situation. MAJOR BS.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
since i have seen marines and officers get away with rape, assault, drug use and even accused of murder.

No you haven't. 😐

I could understand you claiming to have seen the drug use or assualt, but if you saw them do any of the other things, you're a horrible person. 😐

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
due to politics bureaucracy and yes even fear of retaliation from the ppl and or other government branches all they do is transfer the person and keep it quiet like it never happen or lose paper work..

Not for murder, not for rape. Assault, yes. Drug use, yes.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
some of you guys need to grow up if you think the world is so black and white and simple.

No one said that or implied it. They did say, however, that you're obviously lying.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the reason no one said or did anything to me was because i was a big fish in my area of base with connections going up regimental command the MP's and base security knew who i was from my job title and description and had worked with them in the pass. my captain master sgt, Ssgt. all vouched for me and the MP's and base security made it very clear when they intimidated the three guys when they tried to make a statement. aside from that one of my friends also happen to have a talk to them before hand to their safety if i had gone to the brig.

Oh, so now they tried to make a statement?

Back to the topic at hand, there are legal issues:
False advertising, breach of contract, harassment. Not to mention that if this club received ANY public funds or hosted any league sporting events, they're in deep shit.

How is it breach of contract or harassment?

harassment- they said rude and racist comments within earshot of the kids. Breach of contract-they voided membership without cause and against their own non-discrimination policies.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How is it breach of contract or harassment?

Dude, he said deep shit.

That automatically makes him right.

Internetz 101.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
harassment- they said rude and racist comments within earshot of the kids.

I guess, but that seems frivolous at best.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Breach of contract-they voided membership without cause and against their own non-discrimination policies.

If they kicked them out for being black I doubt that have non-discrimination policies that cover race.

actually I believe it was stated that they advertised as an inclusive club

...I see black people...

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
...I see black people...

..........All the time.. 😄

In support of W.S.

There are Many amoral and dishonorable people in the Armies of the world.

Reuters news agency reported The unofficial breaches in the Geneva convention in abu graib referencing photographic evidence seized from military personnel in that facility

In addition CNN international has covered beasting in The English Army

Things like water-boarding are illegal but we all know there are military personnel trained in water-boarding.
Although the official stance is nothing of the sort happens and hotlines are available to report misconduct

Everything is O.K.

Originally posted by David Zucchino. The Los Angeles Times. March 08, 2009
From Page I.

In 2005, in response to concerns about sexual assaults against female service members, the Pentagon established the Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office. Citing a reluctance among female service members to report rape for fear of stigma or reprisals, the office does not share information with law enforcement or the military command.

From Page II

Of the 115 female service member deaths in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, 16 have been ruled suicides. Overall, 205 of the 4,868 military deaths in those wars through Jan. 31 were ruled suicides. The 128 reported Army suicides in 2008 was the highest annual level since the Pentagon began keeping track of suicides in 1980.

Col. Ann Wright, a former U.S. diplomat accuses the military of withholding evidence pointing to sexual assaults and other attacks on female service members.

She contends that the military has been too quick to close the cases of some women's deaths as suicides without first conducting thorough homicide investigations. She accuses the military of stonewalling families who question its findings.

"What the military is doing is egregious," she said. "In many cases, they have the information the families want but refuse to release it. These families are really fighting upstream."

Joy Priest, whose daughter Pfc. Tina Priest, 20, was found dead in Iraq in March 2006, said the Army had not convinced her that Tina killed herself with her M-16, as an investigation found. She died two weeks after accusing a male soldier of raping her.

Priest said it took the Army almost six months to provide her with investigative documents and nine more months to supply color photos of the autopsy and death scene.

"They have you jump through hoops, then they back you up and make you jump through more," Priest said. "It's so painful -- just mind-bending."

Col Wright said she believed there were enough unanswered questions to warrant new investigations.

i guess your liasion wasn't much interested in slipping on an orange peel, landing face first on her MI6 and accidentally setting herself on fire.

Originally posted by shiv
In support of W.S.

There are Many amoral and dishonorable people in the Armies of the world.

Reuters news agency reported The unofficial breaches in the Geneva convention in abu graib referencing photographic evidence seized from military personnel in that facility

In addition CNN international has covered beasting in The English Army

Things like water-boarding are illegal but we all know there are military personnel trained in water-boarding.
Although the official stance is nothing of the sort happens and hotlines are available to report misconduct

Everything is O.K.

I do not see any inconsistencies

Civilians refer to military police as military police.

When you're in the army its natural to drop the prefix and just say police or mps or whatever

W.S. did not go into too much detail in his first retelling of the event. He can be penalised. [rules set by the Pentagon on publicising these type of situations.]

Whatever you may like to believe there is vigilante justice in the army and the fear of "unfortunate accidents" can put candidates for vigilante justice in fear of their lives

Wildshadow says he beat them up just short of serious injury.

There are soldiers as seen from msnbc who will kill to avoid the consequences for their actions.

Given the brutality of vigilante justice the people punched by W.S. were entitled to feel fear at the outcome of said 'justice'

From rules laid down by the top brass W.S. couldn't tell his superiors
His superiors couldn't listen or act without severe penalties

Without a report they turned a blind eye to W.S.'s extra curricular activities whilst stonewalling and browbeating the suspects to protect W.S.

It sounds as though W.S.s sgt major and superiors were good men/women but clearly they couldn't get involved personally because of regulations.

Huge difference between the first story and the second. The first sounds like he just beat up a couple of guys for the hell of it and that because he was a "big" fish they wouldn't do anything. The second is that these people raped someone and were going to get away with it because she wouldn't press charges. Major difference there.

There is also a major difference in in obeying a lawful order and unlawful one.

While it does happen a lot in the military, street justice is still that. Having your Sgt. imply that he wants you to go kick the crap out of someone is different then just doing in and relying on your "big fish" status to save you.

Yes there is crap that goes on in the military, I have already said that but it is not the norm. I could tell you many stories of people that were high ranking officers that got the can because of small things or even things that would make the military look bad. I knew of a Commander that lost a rank just for having sex with a female yard bird on a ship that was not even active.

As I said earlier

Originally posted by shiv

It sounds as though W.S.s sgt major and superiors were good men/women but clearly they couldn't get involved personally because of regulations.

As I said earlier...

Originally posted by Da Pittman
There is also a major difference in in obeying a lawful order and unlawful one.

First story: They would have been wrong to intimidate and to threaten the men that he beat up, he would have been completely in the wrong with no justification. You may have been confused that he posted his second story while I was replying to the first.

Second story: He was still in the wrong but personally justified in his actions by his own set of moral and that of his Sgt.

same story referenced briefly in an effort to remain on topic then explained to greater detail in subsequent posts