Originally posted by botankus
Morality is relative, especially on this board. Hell, I've seen someone in the GDF defend statuatory rape and murder because it didn't go against their morals. (note to all knuckleheads out there...that was a general statement and doesn't reflect my views on the matter...thank you for reading my disclaimer)
Originally posted by Da Pittman
That is complete and udder BS, if they didn't press charges on you it is not because of fear and respect if this even happened at all. The UCMJ would have your ass in a sling just for them reporting it.
actually that did happen one of the @$$holes raped a female marine and his two friends went to defend him when i went looking for him. believe it or not nobody gave to sh#@ what they had to say and i was given the thumbs up to do what i had too by my master sgt.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowThat's a totally different spin on your earlier story now.
actually that did happen one of the @$$holes raped a female marine and his two friends went to defend him when i went looking for him. believe it or not nobody gave to sh#@ what they had to say and i was given the thumbs up to do what i had too by my master sgt.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
actually that did happen one of the @$$holes raped a female marine and his two friends went to defend him when i went looking for him. believe it or not nobody gave to sh#@ what they had to say and i was given the thumbs up to do what i had too by my master sgt.
That smells retardedly fishy. (Like a puffer fish...those things look retarded when puffed up. lol)
That's a very serious offense, especially for the military, to let that rape slide like that. 😐
Originally posted by dadudemonLike one of those the Japanese eat cause they are crazy and also mentally deficient...?
That smells retardedly fishy. (Like a puffer fish...those things look retarded when puffed up. lol)That's a very serious offense, especially for the military, to let that rape slide like that. 😐
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's a totally different spin on your earlier story now.
its the same story i just didnt feel the need to be too specific why i did it. most ppl who think that beating raping and murdering ppl will get you sent to jail or court is extremely naive or ignorant to how the world really works. i have bn in plenty of fights in my adult life and have only bn to court once and i won my case. aside from that how stupid or fearless some ppl would need to be to press charges against certain ppl. their is a reason your average person refuse to testify in court when it involves a group of ppl.
now i dont need you guys who probably never bn in a real fight or served in the military to tell me what would happen in the service, since i have seen marines and officers get away with rape, assault, drug use and even accused of murder. due to politics bureaucracy and yes even fear of retaliation from the ppl and or other government branches all they do is transfer the person and keep it quiet like it never happen or lose paper work.. some of you guys need to grow up if you think the world is so black and white and simple.
the reason no one said or did anything to me was because i was a big fish in my area of base with connections going up regimental command the MP's and base security knew who i was from my job title and description and had worked with them in the pass. my captain master sgt, Ssgt. all vouched for me and the MP's and base security made it very clear when they intimidated the three guys when they tried to make a statement. aside from that one of my friends also happen to have a talk to them before hand to their safety if i had gone to the brig.
Originally posted by dadudemonReally depends on the taste...
I dunno....but maybe. Eating a fish, raw, whose poisen can kill a man, many times over, seems rather stupid to me. 🙂
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
its the same story i just didnt feel the need to be too specific why i did it. most ppl who think that beating raping and murdering ppl will get you sent to jail or court is extremely naive or ignorant to how the world really works. i have bn in plenty of fights in my adult life and have only bn to court once and i won my case. aside from that how stupid or fearless some ppl would need to be to press charges against certain ppl. their is a reason your average person refuse to testify in court when it involves a group of ppl.now i dont need you guys who probably never bn in a real fight or served in the military to tell me what would happen in the service, since i have seen marines and officers get away with rape, assault, drug use and even accused of murder. due to politics bureaucracy and yes even fear of retaliation from the ppl and or other government branches all they do is transfer the person and keep it quiet like it never happen or lose paper work.. some of you guys need to grow up if you think the world is so black and white and simple.
the reason no one said or did anything to me was because i was a big fish in my area of base with connections going up regimental command the MP's and base security knew who i was from my job title and description and had worked with them in the pass. my captain master sgt, Ssgt. all vouched for me and the MP's and base security made it very clear when they intimidated the three guys when they tried to make a statement. aside from that one of my friends also happen to have a talk to them before hand to their safety if i had gone to the brig.
I'm sorry dude, but the rape part is a vital part to the story, one that in fact makes some of your earlier statement in the following basically blatant non sequiturs, making it seem like you made up the whole story.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
... i did it knowing full well they would get the police involved and i still gave them a near death beating and allowed a "friend" of mine to explain the situation to them.i later allowed them to speak with to on base security/ chain of command and no one wanted to press charges from the highest ranking officer to the lowest ranking MP. thats called power, fear and respect.
those three guys were in fear for their life and realized all the money their mommies and daddy's make dont mean anything when your facing some one who lacks a moral compass similar to your own.
if ppl want to go to court and sue thats fine it doesnt change the fact that they are p@$@$'s and they'll get a worse beating from me later and a visit from my friends or family in the middle of the night.
Also, I don't actually view not having been in a fight as a shortcoming
Also, it is extremely illogical of you to claim that you are well connected and can intimidate people into not pressing charges and being scared of their life, yet also state that there was no other way than to beat them up a bit in repercussion to a rape of your female friend. Where were your connections then?
Originally posted by dadudemon
That smells retardedly fishy. (Like a puffer fish...those things look retarded when puffed up. lol)That's a very serious offense, especially for the military, to let that rape slide like that. 😐
the rape was reported to me in confidential counseling, i couldnt divulge her name even if i wanted to. i tried to get her to press charges but she refused due to who the person was i tried to get her to speak to the chaplin and get CSI involved but she wouldnt let me out of fear of her being charged as well for her part in the matter and the act that she felt it would be public.
i informed my command of the incident with the marine but like i already knew they could not do anything unless she was willing to press charges. i was also not allowed to name the ppl involved without it being substantiated. the only thing the military do is have a sexual harassment class and keep an eye on the section where the ppl worked at.
it was my MSsgt who told me sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do and although he is not implying anything he and his office would have my back he also reminded me of the mutual combat clause in the USMC reg.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowYes I have been in the military and from a military family and yes I have been in many fights. My friends in the Navy were on the XO staff and my best friend there was a MAA. This story is much different than your last by FAR, you left out many important details.
its the same story i just didnt feel the need to be too specific why i did it. most ppl who think that beating raping and murdering ppl will get you sent to jail or court is extremely naive or ignorant to how the world really works. i have bn in plenty of fights in my adult life and have only bn to court once and i won my case. aside from that how stupid or fearless some ppl would need to be to press charges against certain ppl. their is a reason your average person refuse to testify in court when it involves a group of ppl.now i dont need you guys who probably never bn in a real fight or served in the military to tell me what would happen in the service, since i have seen marines and officers get away with rape, assault, drug use and even accused of murder. due to politics bureaucracy and yes even fear of retaliation from the ppl and or other government branches all they do is transfer the person and keep it quiet like it never happen or lose paper work.. some of you guys need to grow up if you think the world is so black and white and simple.
the reason no one said or did anything to me was because i was a big fish in my area of base with connections going up regimental command the MP's and base security knew who i was from my job title and description and had worked with them in the pass. my captain master sgt, Ssgt. all vouched for me and the MP's and base security made it very clear when they intimidated the three guys when they tried to make a statement. aside from that one of my friends also happen to have a talk to them before hand to their safety if i had gone to the brig.
From what you are saying is that where you served is dishonorable men and women which is not the norm by far, I have seen people and bigger fish then I'm pretty sure you are get a dishonorable for far less.
Originally posted by botankus
Morality is relative, especially on this board. Hell, I've seen someone in the GDF defend statuatory rape and murder because it didn't go against their morals. (note to all knuckleheads out there...that was a general statement and doesn't reflect my views on the matter...thank you for reading my disclaimer)
However morality being relative doesn't apply to whether people should complain or not, unless you wish to posit that no one should ever do anything for any reason.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the rape was reported to me in confidential counseling, i couldnt divulge her name even if i wanted to. i tried to get her to press charges but she refused due to who the person was i tried to get her to speak to the chaplin and get CSI involved but she wouldnt let me out of fear of her being charged as well for her part in the matter and the act that she felt it would be public.i informed my command of the incident with the marine but like i already knew they could not do anything unless she was willing to press charges. i was also not allowed to name the ppl involved without it being substantiated. the only thing the military do is have a sexual harassment class and keep an eye on the section where the ppl worked at.
it was my MSsgt who told me sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do and although he is not implying anything he and his office would have my back he also reminded me of the mutual combat clause in the USMC reg.
Additional information which make your story again more believable, you should really work on making something you tell fit within itself. Though, the claim that they didn't press charges because they feared for their lifes still seems unsubstantiated.