Tyrant ("depowered") vs Growing Gauntlet

Originally posted by Enyalus
Alright. I didn't really take the one-shot factor into account.

He-Man wouldn't be one-shotted. Exodus would. Magneto's shields would hold. Apoc wouldn't. Vulcan would. Loki...possibly. Thor, possibly. Hulk would. Firelord would.

So, he might be taking on He-Man, Magneto, Apoc, and we'll say Thor at the same time, before Zoom gets added into the equation. I still say that's enough brute force and exotic powers to drop Tyrant for a small majority.

But I can see your point if you disagree. Adding Quasar would do little offensively, IMO, but his shielding would be good. Might get to #12 if I view the battle like you do, with the one-shot clause.

Loki, Thor and Firelord get oneshotted but Apocalypse and He-Man do not? facepalm

Do you read your own posts sometimes?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Alright. I didn't really take the one-shot factor into account.

He-Man wouldn't be one-shotted. Exodus would. Magneto's shields would hold. Apoc wouldn't. Vulcan would. Loki...possibly. Thor, possibly. Hulk would. Firelord would.

So, he might be taking on He-Man, Magneto, Apoc, and we'll say Thor at the same time, before Zoom gets added into the equation. I still say that's enough brute force and exotic powers to drop Tyrant for a small majority.

But I can see your point if you disagree. Adding Quasar would do little offensively, IMO, but his shielding would be good. Might get to #12 if I view the battle like you do, with the one-shot clause.

a little further discussion... Do you consider magneto's shields to be superior to Thanos's? Just asking in reference to his shielding against Omega and Galactus and if you think Magneto's would do better?

Also, I've read some Apoc but not really versed on the dude. Can you give me some examples of his durability feats that he's withstood from a person like Tyrant?

Also, even if the team is left that you mentioned (don't really agree but all good) if they are... what makes you think they can put him down? He has tanked a UN shot and still was there. That team that you have left imo doesn't have the firepower to put him down when we never even really saw him hurt at all.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Loki, Thor and Firelord get oneshotted but Apocalypse and He-Man do not? facepalm

Do you read your own posts sometimes?

That's why he wouldn't be one-shotted.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Loki, Thor and Firelord get oneshotted but Apocalypse and He-Man do not? facepalm

Do you read your own posts sometimes?

Well he didn't say for sure he said maybe. Plus he kept thor in the battle with the team he thought would be left so i guess he thinks he won't be more then likely. Apoc imo does get one shotted. He-man not sure about.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
a little further discussion... Do you consider magneto's shields to be superior to Thanos's? Just asking in reference to his shielding against Omega and Galactus and if you think Magneto's would do better?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also, I've read some Apoc but not really versed on the dude. Can you give me some examples of his durability feats that he's withstood from a person like Tyrant?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also, even if the team is left that you mentioned (don't really agree but all good) if they are... what makes you think they can put him down? He was tanked a UN shot and still was there. That team that you have left imo doesn't have the firepower to put him down when we never even really saw him hurt at all.

Thanos' blasts and punches were affecting him, even if it wasn't a lasting effect. shrug

Originally posted by Enyalus
I said Loki possibly. And BRB was one-shotted, and he's ~ Classic Thor's level. But regardless, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. He-Man would not. And Apoc is versatile as well as durable. If it came to a blast, for instance, Thor wouldn't be KO'd, obviously. A serious punch or whatever, though, and it's a good possibility. Apoc could bend his body with that punch, or outright avoid a blast.

That's why he wouldn't be one-shotted.

And Magneto's shields buckled under Thor's hammer. Reached a point where you think that a mere hammer throw from Thor is supposedly stronger than an attack which can one-shot him? Think about that and take a look at the things Magneto's shield HAS withstood, then measure those attacks up against the few moves which have one-shotted Thor throughout the ages.

And while you're at it, run a checkup on Apocalypse's durability feats versus Loki's. You're in for a lot of surprises.

Originally posted by Enyalus

No. Thanos' shielding, tech or personal, > Magneto's.

Like I told Kris. Versatility over brute tanking durability.

UN shots had the parts of his body that were hit liquefied and on the floor. 😛

Thanos' blasts and punches were affecting him, even if it wasn't a lasting effect. shrug [/B]

If you feel Magnet's shielding is inferior to Thanos... Then I'm assuming you feel Tyrant could unleash a blast similar to what Galactus and Omega did cause your saying it would hold yet weaker then Thanos

I get what your saying about Apoc but he's been put down by far less then Tyrant so I don't see how he survives.

Parts of his body being liquidfied and him not outright destroyed speaks volumes about his durabilty. When has somebody not just been erased when taking shots from UN. Liquidfied or not that is still in a sense tanking UN shots when he should've been erased like others have been.

Edit. Total quoting disasterpiece.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Edit. Total quoting disasterpiece.

poetic and eloquent. in all, one of your better posts. 😄

I unno, a lot of the ppl in the list are 1-shottable (other than mebbe despero), what feats do they (anyone from 1-14) have that puts them any considerable amount above BRB's durability?

Also, IF things get out of hand, what's to stop DP Tryrant from doing an Omni-Directional Blast?

PS. While Quasar could help A LITTLE with his shielding, I really don't see him draining DP Tyrant with the Q Bands, he failed against Surfer (who didn't even notice the drain) who is much much below DP Tyrant's level of PC.

What's with these growing gauntlets?

Anyway, there starts to be trouble around 10, and I'd guess maybe 11-12 he'd be stopped. Seeing He-Man headline the list made me lol. He might actually scale up to Tyrant better than a lot of people after him on the list. But he'd still clearly lose.

It's possible he makes it to 15. He loses eventually, but I see that as his upper limit.

Originally posted by Digi
What's with these growing gauntlets?

Anyway, there starts to be trouble around 10, and I'd guess maybe 11-12 he'd be stopped. Seeing He-Man headline the list made me lol. He might actually scale up to Tyrant better than a lot of people after him on the list. But he'd still clearly lose.

It's possible he makes it to 15. He loses eventually, but I see that as his upper limit.

they're fun and as you pointed out, they do a nice job of illustrating what people think are the upper limits of a character. 🙂

I actually think Tyrant is better off in this thread if we don't use everybody's high feats. If that was the case then Loki would be multiplying, teleporting and reality warping all over the place and Thor would have his impenetrable barrier. Not to mention Superman and Zoom 🙂

He's not making it past Sinestro though, not a ****ing chance.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I actually think Tyrant is better off in this thread if we don't use everybody's high feats. If that was the case then Loki would be multiplying, telepotting and reality warping all over the place and Thor would have his impenetrable barrier. Not to mention Superman and Zoom 🙂

He's not making it past Sinestro though, not a ****ing chance.

yeah, that's exactly right. i was hoping that most would be using most consistent showings as opposed to just 'high end'. and i'm not sure so many would be outright 1-shotted as some. he-man+sword could last for a shot. exodus could teleport around to avoid an opening blast. his shields plus teaming with he-man would likely prevent his being instantly ko'd, etc, . . . they all know exactly what they are up against and there is enough variety of abilities to avoid ALL the first few from being 1-shotted i think.

13 is where it gets messy.

Superman and Sinestro is gonna **** him up so bad.

What's to stop Tyrant from hitting em all with an Omnidirectional blast?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
What's to stop Tyrant from hitting em all with an Omnidirectional blast?

nothing except a lot of shielding, a lot of teleporting, and a lot of uber energy absorbing. i didn't say it was impossible for him to clear this, i was curious what others thought. 🙂

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
13 is where it gets messy.

Superman and Sinestro is gonna **** him up so bad.

Originally posted by Charmander
What exactly is Sinestro going to do besides provide the numbers advantage/shields?

His contructs should be capable of withstanding Tyrant's blasts for quite some time. Sinestro, He-Man, and probably Magneto ain't getting one-shotted.

People are overrating magneto's shielding here... it wouldn't hold up and he would be taken out. Also, supes that is the reason some of you are saying he stops there lol. Supes is drained or physical KO'd via punching. He is not much of a factor imo and is dealt with just as SS would but easier. Thor and Loki provide some early issue but all before them are mostly one shotted. Sinestro is tough and could cause some issues. Zoom... I'm not buying him being much of a factor at all. An omni blast with his lack of great durability means he's dealt with. I think far too many people are viewing too many people in this fight against Tyrant. He one shots many or just beats the shit out of many so this won't be a all out gang bang by any means