Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Your claiming Tyrant is stopped because of Despero and feel he beats Tyrant one v one. Certainly you jest. Sounds like a good thread 😉
No I think he is stopped before he reaches Despero. But he is definitely stopped once he mets Despero. Because he is the only other Big Boy, who can give him a fight one on one.
Which he would. Somebody that can pwn Glads and vaporize him with his durability means many of these guys would fall victim to the same thing. Show me glads getting handled like that any other time? Doesn't happy. BRB also has great durability and he was one shotted just like most in this gauntlet would be.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Which he would. Somebody that can pwn Glads and vaporize him with his durability means many of these guys would fall victim to the same thing. Show me glads getting handled like that any other time? Doesn't happy. BRB also has great durability and he was one shotted just like most in this gauntlet would be.
glads was just run through with a spear last month. 😐
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You silly bastards and your gauntlets.
Yeah, this would be interesting from Tyrant's point of view:
He-Man appears in Tyrant's base.
"What's this? An intruder dares to challenge me in my own base?" After some fighting, Tyrant gains the upper hand, with only He-Man's sword shielding him from the full effect of Tyrant's blasts. Exodus appears.
"So, it seems you are not alone in your foolishness He-Man! This one also seeks battle with mighty Tyrant!" Tyrant one-shots Exodus and turns back on He-Man. Magneto appears.
"What? Another one? You'll go down as quickly as your allies, fool!" He-Man and Magneto are getting the worst of it. Apocalypse appears.
"So, some sort of blue-lipped clown joins the attack? Perhaps Tyrant will have a battle worth his while after all!". Tyrant presses them back with massive blasts of cosmic energy. In comes Vulcan.
"Bah! It matters not your numbers! No one attacks Tyrant and lives!" After further battle, Loki joins.
"I will crush you like insects beneath my feet!" He is blasting everyone back. In flies Thor.
"...the hell?" PO'd Onslaught Hulk appears and is wrecking everything in sight.
"Where the f*** are you people coming from?" Firelord comes in blasting. Zoom is attacking from all sides. There are energy blasts everywhere. The whole place is getting completely trashed.
"WTF??!! GET THE F*** OUT OF MY BASE!!!"
But as for the outcome, Tyrant could probably beat any one of these guys based on his showings against Gladiator, BRB, Thanos, Galactus etc. Depending on how quickly he could put the early guys down and how quickly the reinforcements come in (i.e. basically avoiding fighting them all at once), he might clear it. But he would be running into serious trouble by the last 5 if a decent number of them are still on their feet with Magneto or Quasar still able to provide shields. He could well go down.
Let me ask you something Leo... Compare who and how glads was impaled and do they compare with Tyrant? No it wasn't a low showing for either BRB or Glads.... actually Glads had the best showing of all.. briefly matching Tyrants Hv output until Tyrant got done playing and bye bye Glads. Compare that to the others getting one-shotted and it was a decent showing. BRB isn't doing anything to Tyrant low showing or high showing. He's not even close to the same league so I don't know how you can call that a low showing. Furthermore, did you even see these fights and you seem at a loss for the Glads incident and don't you remember brb getting one shot punched not blasted by Tyrant?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Let me ask you something Leo... Compare who and how glads was impaled and do they compare with Tyrant? No it wasn't a low showing for either BRB or Glads.... actually Glads had the best showing of all.. briefly matching Tyrants Hv output until Tyrant got done playing and bye bye Glads. Compare that to the others getting one-shotted and it was a decent showing. BRB isn't doing anything to Tyrant low showing or high showing. He's not even close to the same league so I don't know how you can call that a low showing. Furthermore, did you even see these fights and you seem at a loss for the Glads incident and don't you remember brb getting one shot punched not blasted by Tyrant?
have i read it? yeah, a few times, but not for quite a while. was tyrant more powerful than the guy that stabbed glad's? sure. but glad's has also withstood a solar system destroying blast. compare that to how he did against tyrant and the showing isn't so good . . .
the point about bill was that throughout the battle he never once TRIED absorbing any energy, not that he was put down BY energy.
clearly tyrant is far above these guys individually, but even in that HV exchange glads was hardly 'vaporized and basically killed'. he was shaken up but wasn't even ko'd. to own everyone like he did bill, he'd need to hit physically, not something that would be easy for him to do in this scenario.
Originally posted by leonidas
so why wasn't his being beaten with tyrant's blast a 'low showing'? i think bill's showing against tyrant was certainly low. his hammer can absorb ridiculous amounts of energy, and bill didn't really do anything at all with it.
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It's also important to note that if you replaced Tyrant with Thanos, people would be having it stop well before 10. Granted, Tyrant got the better of Thanos in their fight. But the Titan held in there, and it wasn't a stomp.
But yeah, "forum" versions of these characters would do a bit better than Tyrant's one-shotting a bunch of them. As early as He-Man gives them some energy absorption, so there's plausible reason to believe most of them could stay alive for an extended period.
Originally posted by Digi
^^^It's also important to note that if you replaced Tyrant with Thanos, people would be having it stop well before 10.
😂
i was gonna say the same thing if KT wanted to continue the discussion. 🙂
there was the issue of the sphere amping thanos though. prior to that, thanos was getting owned pretty badly too. though i seem to recall a rather lengthy and heated discussion revolving around that sphere. the guy swore up and down that the sphere did not amp thanos at all when i thought it very apparent that it did . . .
But yeah, "forum" versions of these characters would do a bit better than Tyrant's one-shotting a bunch of them. As early as He-Man gives them some energy absorption, so there's plausible reason to believe most of them could stay alive for an extended period.
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Originally posted by leonidas
there was the issue of the sphere amping thanos though. prior to that, thanos was getting owned pretty badly too. though i seem to recall a rather lengthy and heated discussion revolving around that sphere. the guy swore up and down that the sphere did not amp thanos at all when i thought it very apparent that it did . . .
The orb didn't amp Thanos' powers physically. It contained knowledge, and that is all. Kris pointed this out initially, and I dug up the scans to back it up. *shrug*
Originally posted by Enyalus
😬 He never took on Tyrant without the orb, so I don't get where you're getting him being owned pretty badly before having it.The orb didn't amp Thanos' powers physically. It contained knowledge, and that is all. Kris pointed this out initially, and I dug up the scans to back it up. *shrug*
Good point Eny as you beat me to it. Not only did he have the orb the whole time but it didn't amp him at the time. Tyrant, need it hooked up to machines to gain "stuff" so then how could thanos just hold it and absorb anything from it? Furthermore, you see clearly when Thanos did leave he also had to hook it up to machines to study it and possible obsorb it's "power".
I don't get how this being a forum fight means anything and how it doesn't also apply to Tyrant. He is also going at full capacity and not holding back. Which mean there WILL BE many one shotted. He is in a league well above most in this fight and that will be evident when they exchange blows.
lastly, Leo, what does bill not absorbing energy have to do with anything. You admitted he was one shotted via punches so what exactly does the fact that bill could absorb energy prove? Yes we know that is in his powerset. Problem is Tyrant got up close and personal and BRB was one shotted.
No, but seriously, there's no 'power' involved. The orb contains cosmic knowledge. That's it. When Thanos hooks it up to his machines to study it, he says as much. As does...Cosmic Powers Unlimited #2 (IIRC).
Also KT, shame on you. Gladiator wasn't anywhere near vaporized by matching energy blasts with Tyrant. Tyrant has to elbow him in the back of the neck in order to drop him. The energy exchange didn't put him down at all. 😛
Originally posted by Enyalus
😬 He never took on Tyrant without the orb, so I don't get where you're getting him being owned pretty badly before having it.The orb didn't amp Thanos' powers physically. It contained knowledge, and that is all. Kris pointed this out initially, and I dug up the scans to back it up. *shrug*
that first is sort of true. he DID have it knocked from his hand and while it was out of his hands tyrant laid into him pretty well. once he got it back and started using it, the battle turned and was much closer. again, if it was only knowledge, why bother reaching for it in the middle of battle? why the dramatic difference in how the battle was fought? and why on earth would an orb filled with stolen energy from MORG contain nothing but 'knowledge'?
http://img10.imageshack.us/i/spherea.jpg/
to me it's very clear the orb helped thanos, and added morg's power to his own.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
lastly, Leo, what does bill not absorbing energy have to do with anything. You admitted he was one shotted via punches so what exactly does the fact that bill could absorb energy prove? Yes we know that is in his powerset. Problem is Tyrant got up close and personal and BRB was one shotted.
what does it prove? it proves he didn't use his full set of powers. and tyrant didn't get up close. bill charged him like an idiot and got clobbered for the attempt. you mentioned (i think it was you, if not, my apologies) an omniblast. he used one against terrax and legacy and JofH but didn't ko any of them. terrax took a punch and didn't fall, and landed a solid blow. that final group (which wsn't terribly powerful) lasted for a little while and got in some good shots.
if an omniblast were used, bill (among many others) could absorb it to become more powerful.
Originally posted by leonidas
that first is sort of true. he DID have it knocked from his hand and while it was out of his hands tyrant laid into him pretty well. once he got it back and started using it, the battle turned and was much closer. again, if it was only knowledge, why bother reaching for it in the middle of battle? why the dramatic difference in how the battle was fought? and why on earth would an orb filled with stolen energy from MORG contain nothing but 'knowledge'?http://img10.imageshack.us/i/spherea.jpg/
to me it's very clear the orb helped thanos, and added morg's power to his own.
Enyalus wrote on Jul 10th, 2009 12:37 PM:
Here is why...Feel free to post these scans in the thread:1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Morg_orb1.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Morg_orb2.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Morg_orb3.jpg
4. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Morg_orb4.jpg
5. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Morg_orb5.jpg
6. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_Morg_orb6.jpg1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Tyrant_orbs0.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Tyrant_orbs1.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Tyrant_orbs2.jpg
4. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Tyrant_orbs3.jpg
5. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Tyrant_orbs4.jpg
6. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Tyrant_orbs5.jpg'Tis an orb of knowledge and knowledge only. 🙂
As you can see, the scan you posted is the third one in my set of scans. Chronologically prior to that, Tyrant gives Morg back his power. That Thanos apparently falsely believed it held Morg's power initially is irrelevant. Considering in scan #6 of set one, he knows it is knowledge and says as much. The second set of scans just back this point up.
EDIT: Links fixed.
