The Last Evil Pig vs Kain

Originally posted by Burning thought
Stating Kain loses then claiming ive shown you nothing of Kain, or that you know nothing of Kain (in your silly bugger bouts) is the most unintellectual thing you could possibly do at the moment, especially when telling me I am not apprently debating.

Youve shown me no real feats, youve shown me the pig stopping time but it was not showing what you wanted it to. So technically youve only damaged your argument by showing evidence.

And ime pointing you in the right direction, respect threads are not made just for a laugh, their there to list information on characters....theres a Kain respect thread that has teleportation, strength, magic etc

You just cba to look prob because you already know your argument is hilariously ridiculous and desperate. You dont want proof, your want something to help the pig win, since its your thread you can give it to him yourself if you like, but you cant win this debate, its major spite to the pig.

I don't know anything about Kain. I haven't played the games and I don't want to, they're too emo. And you aren't debating.

I've shown you everything I know of at this point. I could go digging through videos of the first game, but theres no need to, and why should I? You haven't shown me jack shit on Kain.

Funny, I could say the same thing about you. Oh yeah, I have won this debate.

You mean their too mature, theyve not got colourful little characters or an E rating and your mother will not let you buy them, I understand...

Ive pointed you in the right direction, the respect thread.....

Youve won on what grounds lol, ime still waiting for you to actually start debating so technically youve not even started the debate, youve just moaned and argued but theres no real debating going on here from you since A: you just admitted you know nothing on Kain so technically neither character can win from your point of view, yet you are refusing to actually look at any evidence.

Just sayin', vampires are notorious emo fodder.

Emo=/=mature.

Their more Goth than emo....

One one hand, props for knowing the difference, people who confuse the two make me /very/ angry. Emo is totally non-legit.

I haaaate emo.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
One one hand, props for knowing the difference, people who confuse the two make me /very/ angry. Emo is totally non-legit.

I haaaate emo.

Both are equally bad, so I just might as well confuse them.

LoK is neither Goth, nor Emo anyway.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Both are equally bad, so I just might as well confuse them.

LoK is neither Goth, nor Emo anyway.

1. Naaah. Goth's established itself as a legitimate subculture that can survive without whining on all the ****ing time, and succeeded where punk failed in that it's mostly remained non-pop. [With the exception of the occasional movie causing a surge of the fashion or something.]

2. I /really/ hate emo kids. Whiney little *****.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Naaah. Goth's established itself as a legitimate subculture that can survive without whining on all the ****ing time, and succeeded where punk failed in that it's mostly remained non-pop. [With the exception of the occasional movie causing a surge of the fashion or something.]

2. I /really/ hate emo kids. Whiney little *****.

These two groups are pretty much identical where I live. Members of both dress like assholes, are perpetually "unhappy", don't smile, and just act like their wholesome suburbian lives suck.

Then you only have emoes. o_O; Some just have marginally better taste in music.

Over here the differences are plentiful. What country to you reside in, anyway?

Originally posted by Burning thought
You mean their too mature, theyve not got colourful little characters or an E rating and your mother will not let you buy them, I understand...

Ive pointed you in the right direction, the respect thread.....

Youve won on what grounds lol, ime still waiting for you to actually start debating so technically youve not even started the debate, youve just moaned and argued but theres no real debating going on here from you since A: you just admitted you know nothing on Kain so technically neither character can win from your point of view, yet you are refusing to actually look at any evidence.

I could buy them myself. I choose not to because more often than not, the games suck. Blood, violence and darkness =/= maturity. It equals a Mature rating, theres a big difference.

How can I know anything about Kain when you refuse to show me anything? I can only assume theres nothing to know, so the pig wins.

I've noticed a pattern to the topics you contribute too BT. Let me show you what happens.

1. You start posting your thoughts.
2. People reply.
3. You reply to the people.
4. They prove you wrong, likely by means of pointing out your bad logic.
5. You insult their intelligence without providing evidence to your argument.
6. They continue to debate.
7. You start reaching.
8. They point it out.
9. You insult their intelligence, again.
10. Repeat steps 7 and 8.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Then you only have emoes. o_O; Some just have marginally better taste in music.

Over here the differences are plentiful. What country to you reside in, anyway?

They call themselves "goths", but they're no different from "emos". Not in my book.

Lithuania.

Oh, cool. I'm Canadian. :]

Eastern European goths apparently suck, then. Or don't know what the ****in' word means 😛

Over here it's pretty close to the metal scene. It basicly boils down to a darker sense of humour/style.

Emo kids just ****ing whine and think their 'problems' are somehow profound and poetic or some shit.

Edit: Basicly, emo kids are attention whoring bitches, hopping any trend they can to be 'edgy'. Goddamnit I hate them.

/rant

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Oh, cool. I'm Canadian. :]

Eastern European goths apparently suck, then. Or don't know what the ****in' word means 😛

Over here it's pretty close to the metal scene. It basicly boils down to a darker sense of humour/style.

Emo kids just ****ing whine and think their 'problems' are somehow profound and poetic or some shit.

Edit: Basicly, emo kids are attention whoring bitches, hopping any trend they can to be 'edgy'. Goddamnit I hate them.

/rant

Yea, I guess goths and emos are pretty much identical over here apart from some differences in clothing and general looks.

I really don't know what kind of music they listen to, but I bet it's shit.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I could buy them myself. I choose not to because more often than not, the games suck. Blood, violence and darkness =/= maturity. It equals a Mature rating, theres a big difference.

How can I know anything about Kain when you refuse to show me anything? I can only assume theres nothing to know, so the pig wins.

I've noticed a pattern to the topics you contribute too BT. Let me show you what happens.

1. You start posting your thoughts.
2. People reply.
3. You reply to the people.
4. They prove you wrong, likely by means of pointing out your bad logic.
5. You insult their intelligence without providing evidence to your argument.
6. They continue to debate.
7. You start reaching.
8. They point it out.
9. You insult their intelligence, again.
10. Repeat steps 7 and 8.

No you see this is all wrong, first 4 never happens, nobody has really ever proved me wrong, there may have been a few minor details in a real debate where ive been proven wrong but nothing major. Youve not seen any of my threads, I have provided evidence in every debate I have been in unless I am debating with the same people who have already seen the evidence.

So youve not said anything, youve simply listed the things more intelligent people on your side of the argument have said to try and generalise me simply because I smash apart link threads that you like to run around in like a school kid bum licking Screampaste as you go.

Thing is you dont debate at all so its hard to make a list of what youve done generally, heres what youve done in this thread:

1. made the thread in the hopes that the pigs time stop will defeat Kain

2. Blundered with your own apparent evidence because you did not watch it carefully

3. once I pointed out to you and the rest of your team that there were 10 seconds in the cast time, intelligent members of your team (Artificial glory) backed down and realised that with this cast time the pig had no chance.

4. You continued, yet you had no real evidence after this of anything the pig can do, you tried to make a red herring fallacy by asking for strength feats and other irrelevant rubbish to hope to get away from the subject which you cannot debate against.

5. having been left with no argument left and the hope for Kain being defeated by as you said yourself "an E rated character" in ruins youve played silly bugger (I am not the only one to figure this, in fact your old team mate I mentioned above pointed this out before me) and asked for evidence despite me pointing you to it.

So all in all, your a big troll, nothing else but a persistent troll....

Originally posted by Burning thought
No you see this is all wrong, first 4 never happens, nobody has really ever proved me wrong, there may have been a few minor details in a real debate where ive been proven wrong but nothing major. Youve not seen any of my threads, I have provided evidence in every debate I have been in unless I am debating with the same people who have already seen the evidence.

So youve not said anything, youve simply listed the things more intelligent people on your side of the argument have said to try and generalise me simply because I smash apart link threads that you like to run around in like a school kid bum licking Screampaste as you go.

Thing is you dont debate at all so its hard to make a list of what youve done generally, heres what youve done in this thread:

1. made the thread in the hopes that the pigs time stop will defeat Kain

2. Blundered with your own apparent evidence because you did not watch it carefully

3. once I pointed out to you and the rest of your team that there were 10 seconds in the cast time, intelligent members of your team (Artificial [b]glory) backed down and realised that with this cast time the pig had no chance.

4. You continued, yet you had no real evidence after this of anything the pig can do, you tried to make a red herring fallacy by asking for strength feats and other irrelevant rubbish to hope to get away from the subject which you cannot debate against.

5. having been left with no argument left and the hope for Kain being defeated by as you said yourself "an E rated character" in ruins youve played silly bugger (I am not the only one to figure this, in fact your old team mate I mentioned above pointed this out before me) and asked for evidence despite me pointing you to it.

So all in all, your a big troll, nothing else but a persistent troll.... [/B]

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Bravo, bravo indeed. It's a very good theory, except it's wrong.

You've never smashed a Link thread. That you think you ever have is funny.

1. It does. Kain's sword can't steal souls as far as I'm concerned, because you have provided no evidence of this. A name means nothing, your username is Burning Thought, but its obvious you're not big on thinking. And if when you do, it burns, then I can't even imagine what's wrong with you.

2. I knew about the time stop casting time. Again, that you think I didn't is funny. Tomba is one of my favorite games, I made a respect thread on it. You think I don't know what I'm talking about?

3. Time stop still wins, let's say his sword can steal souls. Maybe it has a delay in doing so?

Hell, let me use some of your logic. Due to the differences is fictional worlds, people in Tomba's world might not even have souls, and as such that would render Kain's only possible action useless.

4. You've seen the time stop, and if you really insist I will find two videos that prove the pig can turn beings to stone. But, I won't do that until you get off your ass and provide some feats for your own character.

5. ArtificialGlory is not my team mate. I don't even know him. And I'm not going to get your damn feats for you. Then I'd be debating with myself, and that's not really a debate now is it?

So, all in all, you fail. Nothing else but persistent fail.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
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Bravo, bravo indeed. It's a very good theory, except it's wrong.

You've never smashed a Link thread. That you think you ever have is funny.

1. It does. Kain's sword can't steal souls as far as I'm concerned, because you have provided no evidence of this. A name means nothing, your username is Burning Thought, but its obvious you're not big on thinking. And if when you do, it burns, then I can't even imagine what's wrong with you.

2. I knew about the time stop casting time. Again, that you think I didn't is funny. Tomba is one of my favorite games, I made a respect thread on it. You think I don't know what I'm talking about?

3. Time stop still wins, let's say his sword can steal souls. Maybe it has a delay in doing so?

Hell, let me use some of your logic. Due to the differences is fictional worlds, people in Tomba's world might not even have souls, and as such that would render Kain's only possible action useless.

4. You've seen the time stop, and if you really insist I will find two videos that prove the pig can turn beings to stone. But, I won't do that until you get off your ass and provide some feats for your own character.

5. ArtificialGlory is not my team mate. I don't even know him. And I'm not going to get your damn feats for you. Then I'd be debating with myself, and that's not really a debate now is it?

So, all in all, you fail. Nothing else but persistent fail.

1. Silly buggering again...and some flaming

2. No I dont think you do, I think your blabbering nonsense and even my enemies in this forum can see it, if they cant then here Ill show them AND you:

Originally posted by Burning thought
This from that queer pig game? whats it ever done? what are its real feats?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Stopped time with a thought.

lmao....yes you know what your talking about do you? 🙄

3. No it does it on slash

Dont have souls? they dont have an essence to their being? the soul is more than just spirit that you would read about in religious text you kno...

4. Provided in respect thread

5. Their not feats you have to get, their feats ive laid down before, in my respect thread, thats what their for.....you merely have to read it. And A.G was on your team, debating against me....

So you called me persistent fail after I called you a persistent troll lol.....it seems like the little Moocow is copying words...how sweet..

Now, ill give you one last chance, if you answer the below in a more mature manner than you have the rest of this thread, ill treat you with more respect than a brain damaged monkey slapping words and posting them on his keyboard...

1. What is your remaining argument?

2. Why will you not go to page 3 of the respect threads, find kain at the bottom and look at his many feats and abilities, then come back to me...the respect thread is there for a reason...your denial and stupidity as well as playing silly bugger is showing you up as a fool, especially when asking for evidence then denying it when Ive made a big source full of it.

ive even posted the Dark chronicle, a wealth of information in this thread on most if not all of Kains powers so telling me ive shown no evidence is redundant.

Seriously dude ( BT )..

Just stop. We got 10 pages of you just going "NO, NO, NO!!!11!1 Kain CAN'T lose!!"

Could Kain win? Yea but it isn't likely what with that retarded pig's ability to stop time.

Kain's respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f100/t470105.html

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Silly buggering again...and some flaming

2. No I dont think you do, I think your blabbering nonsense and even my enemies in this forum can see it, if they cant then here Ill show them AND you:

Edit: Dang it AG, don't do BT's job for him. You can't let his plan for ultimate laziness work!

lmao....yes you know what your talking about do you? 🙄

3. No it does it on slash

Dont have souls? they dont have an essence to their being? the soul is more than just spirit that you would read about in religious text you kno...

4. Provided in respect thread

5. Their not feats you have to get, their feats ive laid down before, in [b]my respect thread, thats what their for.....you merely have to read it. And A.G was on your team, debating against me....

So you called me persistent fail after I called you a persistent troll lol.....it seems like the little Moocow is copying words...how sweet..

Now, ill give you one last chance, if you answer the below in a more mature manner than you have the rest of this thread, ill treat you with more respect than a brain damaged monkey slapping words and posting them on his keyboard...

1. What is your remaining argument?

2. Why will you not go to page 3 of the respect threads, find kain at the bottom and look at his many feats and abilities, then come back to me...the respect thread is there for a reason...your denial and stupidity as well as playing silly bugger is showing you up as a fool, especially when asking for evidence then denying it when Ive made a big source full of it.

ive even posted the Dark chronicle, a wealth of information in this thread on most if not all of Kains powers so telling me ive shown no evidence is redundant. [/B]

1. A lack of evidence is a lack of evidence, and is grounds to assume that the character cannot do what it lacks the evidence of.

2. Aww, poor little BT can't tell a liar when he sees one. Haha.

3. Funny, I read the words but there was no video proof to back it up. And yeah, see how it is to deal with your logic? A soul is a concept, that may or may not be used in the varying fictional worlds.

4. But...I'm here...and the respect thread is way over there...

5. Yes, I will do it now. It's all so clear to me, I'm a fool. I will go get the feats that you need to defend your character. Then I will proceed to reply to myself over and over again, essentially doing your job for you.

/internetsarcasm.

This is a debate topic. Debate your point of view or GTFO.

Haha, silly BT. I don't post words on my keyboard.

1. My remaining argument is that Kain can't win, based on a time stop you have yet to defeat and being turned to stone that you have yet to truly acknowledge.

2. Because that's your job. But I do have to give you credit for attempting to get your opponent to debate for you. Good plan. thumbsup

Originally posted by RaidenDeadpool
Seriously dude ( BT )..

Just stop. We got 10 pages of you just going "NO, NO, NO!!!11!1 Kain CAN'T lose!!"

Could Kain win? Yea but it isn't likely what with that retarded pig's ability to stop time.

You have no baring on the thread at all nor on what has transpired in it, go and find me the quote of me saying what you just claimed me to say several times....

The fact you try and use the pigs time stop as a reason for kain to lose is an immediate failure on your part since its key aspects will make sure it does not stop time at all......