The Last Evil Pig vs Kain

Originally posted by Burning thought
You have no baring on the thread at all nor on what has transpired in it, go and find me the quote of me saying what you just claimed me to say several times....

The fact you try and use the pigs time stop as a reason for kain to lose is an immediate failure on your part since its key aspects will make sure it does not stop time at all......

MooCow presentred a lot of facts to you, but you would immediatly go off topic. Why then should rehash what he's already said?

I saw the vid too. Time had stopped. Your twisting the dialogue in an attempt to use it in your favor.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. A lack of evidence is a lack of evidence, and is grounds to assume that the character cannot do what it lacks the evidence of.

2. Aww, poor little BT can't tell a liar when he sees one. Haha.

3. Funny, I read the words but there was no video proof to back it up. And yeah, see how it is to deal with your logic? A soul is a concept, that may or may not be used in the varying fictional worlds.

4. But...I'm here...and the respect thread is way over there...

5. Yes, I will do it now. It's all so clear to me, I'm a fool. I will go get the feats that you need to defend your character. Then I will proceed to reply to myself over and over again, essentially doing your job for you.

/internetsarcasm.

This is a debate topic. Debate your point of view or GTFO.

Haha, silly BT. I don't post words on my keyboard.

1. My remaining argument is that Kain can't win, based on a time stop you have yet to defeat and being turned to stone that you have yet to truly acknowledge.

2. Because that's your job. But I do have to give you credit for attempting to get your opponent to debate for you. Good plan. thumbsup

1. Theres plenty of evidence, you just refuse to look at it.

2. You didnt lie at all, you hoped that it was that quick and now ive shown how much of a fool you are by showing how wrong you were with your own game lol.

3. But hey! its better than reading the words than having your own evidence disprove you doesnt it.

4. A.G helped your childs mind be put to rest by finding it for you.

5. respect threads are for information on characters, go get it! and the Dark chronicle is in this thread.

Debate topic? youve not debated a single thing so you wouldn't know what a debate is.

Lmao! this is the funniest thing said by you so far, you actually admit and agree with the idea that you are a brain damaged monkey...brilliant, I thought so myself but since you seem to agree ime surprised its the truth.

1. Erm, yes, 10 seconds cast time is a defeat for itself and being turned to stone is not shown at all.

2. Artificial Glory just gave you the respect thread, when I post a video are you going to demand that I play the video, watch it and report back to you on what it shows? daft troll lol...

Originally posted by RaidenDeadpool
MooCow presentred a lot of facts to you, but you would immediatly go off topic. Why then should rehash what he's already said?

I saw the vid too. Time had stopped. Your twisting the dialogue in an attempt to use it in your favor.

What facts? so your saying hes presented facts but you wont point them apparent facts out?

You also must have seen the 10 seconds it takes for him to cast it I take it?

Kain kills the evil pig and gets swine flu in the process.

Dark Chronicle for those who are too much of a lazy bums to find it by themselves or link it http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/info/index.php

K. I'll be serious this time.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Theres plenty of evidence, you just refuse to look at it.

2. You didnt lie at all, you hoped that it was that quick and now ive shown how much of a fool you are by showing how wrong you were with your own game lol.

3. But hey! its better than reading the words than having your [b]own evidence disprove you doesnt it.

4. A.G helped your childs mind be put to rest by finding it for you.

5. respect threads are for information on characters, go get it! and the Dark chronicle is in this thread.

Debate topic? youve not debated a single thing so you wouldn't know what a debate is.

Lmao! this is the funniest thing said by you so far, you actually admit and agree with the idea that you are a brain damaged monkey...brilliant, I thought so myself but since you seem to agree ime surprised its the truth.

1. Erm, yes, 10 seconds cast time is a defeat for itself and being turned to stone is not shown at all.

2. Artificial Glory just gave you the respect thread, when I post a video are you going to demand that I play the video, watch it and report back to you on what it shows? daft troll lol...[/B]

1. I'm looking, you happy? Lazy...

2. Thank you for proving my point.

3. Blah blah blah.

4. There's that childish "insult" again. Always makes me laugh. thumbsup

5. Blah blah blah.

Congratulations, you caught on to something.

1. I'll acknowledge your "soul stealing" when I read the respect thread that you were too lazy to get. As for being turned to stone, it isn't shown, but it is stated once, and seen three times.

2. Well, no. But under the obligations of debating your character I'd expect you to post it and tell me where the feat you are using the video for takes place. Replying to it is my job. You are meant to do your job, not mine. Why is that so hard for you?

Okay, I'll be back when the thread has been read.

P.S. The words "Blah blah blah" were placed in their respective locations simply because I got bored. They are in now way meant to be taken as my reply.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice

Congratulations, you caught on to something.

1. I'll acknowledge your "soul stealing" when I read the respect thread that you were too lazy to get. As for being turned to stone, it isn't shown, but it is stated once, and seen three times.

2. Well, no. But under the obligations of debating your character I'd expect you to post it and tell me where the feat you are using the video for takes place. Replying to it is my job. You are meant to do your job, not mine. Why is that so hard for you?

Okay, I'll be back when the thread has been read.

P.S. The words "Blah blah blah" were placed in their respective locations simply because I got bored. They are in now way meant to be taken as my reply.

I knew it chimp.

1. The whole story of the game soul reaver and its origin of the blade is perhaps one of the largest parts of the LOK series.

2. I told you where it is.....and the Dark chroncile is important as well.

I have read the respect thread.

There is nothing there.

No strength feats, no speed feats, and no video proof of the Soul Reaver ever stealing souls.

Several of the videos are no longer available on YouTube.

Yes ive just gone and played all the Tomba games and found out that the pig cannot turn anyone to stone and that his time powers are useless in the presence of a vampire! woohoo!

Lies. The entire point of Tomba 2 is to save Tabby, and at the end you see in a cutscene that she has been turned to stone.

You're nowhere near good enough to finish Tomba and Tomba2 in a half hour. And they're short games.

Well a great deal of the story in LOK is based around Raziel who is a soul devouring enttiy getting absorbed into the reaver to make the soul reaer, a soul eating blade.

You missed the point (understandable for a chimp), I was calling you a liar because enough evidence for the soul reavers soul eating is in the first video on the first page of the thread that I myself just watched.

You obviously did not watch all the vids, theres only one or two vids in that thread that dont work, I think its the 3rd one that does not work.

I believe three videos failed to work for me.

The first video should be the short combat video. I've seen it. I didn't see any soul stealing either. Care to point out a time frame? Perhaps I missed it.

No I am bored of this thread now, Its time for me to end it myself.

i tried giving you chances to show you can debate but you failed most of my exams, you failed finding evidence because the only evidence you found worked in my favour. You failed at making a real argument, almost everything you did was a troll, bait or play at silly bugger.

You failed my test of fallacy, using a vast number of fallacies such as red herring, asking for strength or speed feats when they were irrelevent and not important considering abilities of both and you appealed to audiance a few times I belive as well, you also tried a bit of an ad hominem, using a hasty generalisation fallacy you tried to stack negatives against me and used it for your ad hominem argument to declare why I am wrong or bad at this debate.

You failed intellect, you persistently defeated yourself and showed yourself to be wrong with your own information.

Curiously you passed on exam, persistance, unfortunaltey not debating persistance but trolling, but you persisted instead of fled away.

But overall, you got a F as an overall grade, which unfortunatley is a fail 🙁 ofc I failed as well, I tried to make you debate so you could at least stand in for Nemebro as a debator for the time being but no....

so without further a do, ill conclude this thread:

Kains soul devouring blade:

http://www.eidosinteractive.co.uk/gss/lokdefiance/

From the official site:

During his journey, Kain discovered and claimed the Soul Reaver, an ancient soul-devouring blade,

Which:

http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/weapons.php

"Time fades even legend, and the origin of the Soul Reaver has been lost long ago. But its purpose remains - to feed on the souls of any creature it strikes. Kindred, this blade and I."

Now Moo using your own idea of using reality as a default to determine feats and how things work, the pig has a soul by defintion in fiction and without it....and has zero durability feats as of shown anyway.

The pig which cannot move since its 10 second spell seems to leave it standing it place as its little glow ball which regardless whether or not its energy, light will have its ethereal or phsical body struck by the reaver, losing its soul in the process and is defeated.

In conclusion, Kain casually walks up to the pigs form as it garbles its BS spell and smiles, he waits another 2 seconds in amusement at how slow the spell is and slashes once...the pig is dead...end of the thread

Now good night 🙂

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It has to strike them. You even bolded it. 😛 Kain can't strike light, especially not while frozen in time. End of thread.

I'll read and reply when I stop doing something more important. Like finishing my chips and queso.

Mmm, queso.

Okay, yeah. ScreamPaste is right. Kain's blade has to strike the being to take it's soul, and he can't strike light.

The pig's non-bodily form is a ball of light.

Oh, and Lol at your little "test." You've planned to try and make me into a debater all this time, but I can't have lied about the cast time?

L O L

No hes not because striking something is not the same as hitting something physical, Kain can "strike" the air, anyone can. i can "strike" the air with my fist. And nothing proves its light. Either way this thread is over, Kain can either choose to become immune and then just hit the thing with a single spell, killing it, OR he can strike it whether its physical or not and the pig will die.

This pig becomes another of the pile of dead bodies Kain has stacked up in VS and you join the pile of humbled and defeated trolls at my feet.

lol you guys are pathetic, I KNEW you would try and use this little strike thing as a physical impact, whats funny is theres so many flaws in your little plan for Kain against this pig its laughable. kain is completly immune with repel, all Kian has to do is teleport and the pig loses its target. And looking at the vids, the pig can only hit so many beings with this time spell, seems those in his close range (tomba) are immune to it.

I pretty much defeated the whole forum or those antagonists that are against me by pointing out that 10 second cast time lol.

K. Keep being full of yourself. Its clear to me that Kain has to strike the pig, and no, you can't strike light.

It actually proves itself that it's light. Take another look at the video, see that line of circles? That's an intended lighting effect put in by the developers, it's light being reflected in a certain way.

Ofc you can, your confused with what strike means, you dont actually have to hit something solid to strike it.

No, that means its creating light or reflecting light, because its obviously glowing. A reflection of light or an object emanating light does not mean its made of light. The sun does the same thing when its light hits the earth, but the sun itself is not made of light....

Okay, so then it would have to be incredibly hot, or it's made of light.

Can Kain survive extreme heat? Can the Soul Reaver?

It doesn't matter that you found a little loophole in the definition. It's obvious that the intention was to steal a person's soul their body has to be hit with the sword.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Okay, so then it would have to be incredibly hot, or it's made of light.

Can Kain survive extreme heat? Can the Soul Reaver?

It doesn't matter that you found a little loophole in the definition. It's obvious that the intention was to steal a person's soul their body has to be hit with the sword.

No it does not have to hot, just reflect/project light....I like how you complain about me reaching yet your stretching completly in a hope for the pigs form to be escapable. It cant move and its vulnerable and Kain is slashing the immaterial soul, not trying to do physical damage.

That makes no sense at all, the sword is devouring/slashing something that is immaterial so your talking without logic. And the pigs body would be made up of this new form, it makes no diffrence even if we are illogical.