Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Next are people really claiming Hulk is stronger at base levels and better at h2h combat?
Not stronger at base levels, meaning the first few minutes Hulk is Hulk. And not necessarily supremely superior at h2h, but not inferior.
Two great fighters can have a fight that can go either way. If one wins, it doesn't mean he's leagues above the other guy. And Thanos has never had a straight up h2h fight against Hulk where a finish was actually intended.
You can judge the ability of someone based on who they're fighting, not just how often they fight. Thanos battles these over-god-level guys, but how much do they really RELY on their h2h skills? I'd say, based on Hulk dominating master fighters like Hercules and always going the distance against Thor, that Hulk is at least as good as any of Thanos' h2h showings.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Don't be jealous Leo, you know you liked what I said and got kinda hot and bothered huh? If you would stop trying to say Hulk is stronger then Thanos or better at h2h because the comics say otherwise your hawtness factor would go up as well 😮 😈 😄 😱
oi vey . . .
first, i'm secure in my hawtness, thank you. uhuh
next--i never said hulk at base=thanos, nor did i say hulk=thanos h2h. in fact, when eny said starfox was fighting thanos, he was doing as well as he was because of speed and skill. I'M the one who pointed out that he apparently taught gamora some h2h skills, so thought starfox out-skilling him was silly. 😖mart:
i DID say--and even your boy eny conceded--that hulk COULD match thanos's strength and COULD become stronger than thanos.
thanos would demolish hulk using his powers. i've already pointed that out. but in pure physical strength, yes, there is no logical reason to say hulk could not match or exceed thanos.
Originally posted by leonidas
oi vey . . .first, i'm secure in my hawtness, thank you. uhuh
next--i never said hulk at base=thanos, nor did i say hulk=thanos h2h. in fact, when eny said starfox was fighting thanos, he was doing as well as he was because of speed and skill. I'M the one who pointed out that he apparently taught gamora some h2h skills, so thought starfox out-skilling him was silly. 😖mart:
i DID say--and even your boy eny conceded--that hulk COULD match thanos's strength and COULD become stronger than thanos.
thanos would demolish hulk using his powers. i've already pointed that out. but in pure physical strength, yes, there is no logical reason to say hulk could not match or exceed thanos.
using a hypothetical no-limit fallacy based on narrated feats concerning hulk, sure. However, they have met in h2h confrontations and hulk never grew to that level and was clearly outgunned in all cases. He also wasn't at base levels either as some of he fights were after he was obviously already pissed and grown in anger and yet he was casually dispatched with little problem. So, yes he could grow to some astronomical level in theory but I choose to go by what I've seen on panel via direct confrontations.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
using a hypothetical no-limit fallacy based on narrated feats concerning hulk, sure. However, they have met in h2h confrontations and hulk never grew to that level and was clearly outgunned in all cases. He also wasn't at base levels either as some of he fights were after he was obviously already pissed and grown in anger and yet he was casually dispatched with little problem. So, yes he could grow to some astronomical level in theory but I choose to go by what I've seen on panel via direct confrontations.
except he's never fought savage hulk, so this version of hulk was never outgunned and all your observations are meaningless. 🙂
prof hulk did does and always will suck.
Have you seen professor hulk's recent showings... those were hardly sucky... THe lifting mountain feat.. was also professor hulk. Is he as strong as Savage hulk no but he's no pushover and has given Thor and others a good fight and has good lifting feats. Show me where this thread says Savage Hulk? Why are you holding onto that version as if he's in this thread. Also, as eny pointed out Savage hulk has been overpowered by SS and Thor has also hung right with him and yet we know THanos is above both of them pretty easily. So, your saying against Thanos savage hulk would have a better chance and do better? I think not
Originally posted by Enyalus
Savage Hulk's lost to Werewolf by Night & Colossus.Thanos must be scurred.
Remember Big Buddy he tries to avoid an encounter with hulk cause he's scurred.... However, he'll openly look for a challenge against Tyrant so I guess Hulk is scarier then Tyrant 🙄 Nevermind the fact that when he's met and faced the hulk I saw no sign of being scared only mocking his strength lol
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Have you seen professor hulk's recent showings... those were hardly sucky... THe lifting mountain feat.. was also professor hulk. Is he as strong as Savage hulk no but he's no pushover and has given Thor and others a good fight and has good lifting feats. Show me where this thread says Savage Hulk? Why are you holding onto that version as if he's in this thread. Also, as eny pointed out Savage hulk has been overpowered by SS and Thor has also hung right with him and yet we know THanos is above both of them pretty easily. So, your saying against Thanos savage hulk would have a better chance and do better? I think not
if we stuck to the thread hulk can't amp. 😐
and prof was FAILING at holding the mountain. what'd reed have to do to keep him working . . .? 😖hifty:
of course savage would fair better. look through the respect thread, read classic hulk books--which incarnation has by FAR the most strength feats? savage, by a friggin mile.
and savage has also pummelled the crap out of thor without the hammer.
I'll go ahead and apologize to Leo now, anyway, for lowballing Hulk in my previous comment
you're dead to me. 😐
Originally posted by The MISTER
Has anyone ever challenged thanos in h2h before? Ever? Cause the Hulk has had at least a one or two embarrasments.
If i remember right Thunder strike did pretty well agasint Thanos when he was using just the power gem. He rocked him in few hits but it has been awhile since i read that arc. Not that Thunderstrike would of won but it did show that Hulk would have a good chance. In a H2H only
Originally posted by DarkOdin
If i remember right Thunder strike did pretty well agasint Thanos when he was using just the power gem. He rocked him in few hits but it has been awhile since i read that arc. Not that Thunderstrike would of won but it did show that Hulk would have a good chance. In a H2H only
Originally posted by Master Courtstfu2
Did you wake up with douche in your eyes? That'd explain why you can't read. Where the f**k did I say Thanos fears Hulk? Thanos doesn't fear s**t. Why would he? And neither does Hulk for that matter. That was proven during WWH.Cautious doesn't mean afraid. And Thanos, by his own admission, is cautious of Hulk. Same as Steve Irwin was cautious around Crocodiles, but he obviously wasn't afraid of them.
And "fanboy"? I've already made it clear I know Thanos wins. WTF is fanboy about that?
My only points; Hulk is superior to Thanos in strength. And Thanos is NOT superior to Hulk in hand-to-hand skill. Hulk has gone the distance with Thor and defeated Hercules on numerous occasions, both are gods that heavily embody combat.
And as for people who STILL think Thor or Surfer are stronger than Hulk. Wake up. You don't have to be stronger than someone to punch them, or push them, or wrestle them against the wall. Fights involving top-tiers are not strength-versus-strength fights. They're strength-versus-durability-versus-skill fights. Thor himself recognized that Hulk is stronger, regardless of those ancient stalemates. The same way Superman knows Flash is faster. Strength is what Hulk is and does.
Yeah, I'm a huge Hulk fan, but I rarely say he wins "hands down" against real opponents like Juggernaut, Surfer, and the like. I'm the logical type. Logically, there's no proof Thanos is stronger or even AS strong as Hulk. And certainly no proof that Thanos is a better fighter.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Have you seen professor hulk's recent showings... those were hardly sucky... THe lifting mountain feat.. was also professor hulk. Is he as strong as Savage hulk no but he's no pushover and has given Thor and others a good fight and has good lifting feats. Show me where this thread says Savage Hulk? Why are you holding onto that version as if he's in this thread. Also, as eny pointed out Savage hulk has been overpowered by SS and Thor has also hung right with him and yet we know THanos is above both of them pretty easily. So, your saying against Thanos savage hulk would have a better chance and do better? I think not
To be fair, lifting feats and certain other non-combat strength feats are comic's version of a positive sum situation, at least as far as my opinion goes. In any case, the mountain lifting feat pales in comparison to destroying a planet on panel.