YuLaw versus Neo....

YuLaw (Jet Li, "The One"😉, versus Neo.

YuLaw is travelling from one universe to the other, in pursuit of Gabe Law. Somehow he ends up in the Matrix and encounters Neo. Neo reads YuLaw as an agent, and decides to fight him.

YuLaw, frustrated at missing yet another chance at killing Gabe Law, decides to accept Neo's challenge.

The fight takes place, as I said, in the Matrix, where Neo fought the multiple Agent Smith's in "Reloaded."

YuLaw is at full strength, as is Neo. Neo, in order to make this fight fair, can use only his speed and martial arts skills. No flying, no bullet stopping, none of his uberness, just h2h combat. To the death.

Damn dude. We both shitted out a thread at the same time.

Have you seen the new Potter?

Oh and Neo wins handily.

Neo wins handily? Have you seen The One?

Yes and I regret it too.

Neo is faster, stronger, and fought way more skilled people.

Here is YuLaw in his best scenes:

YouTube video

Dude can run FIFTY m.p.h., man. Has Neo ever shown the type of strength that YuLaw showed at 1:59?

Irrelevant. If he retains his basic Matrix powers he has no limits but his imagination and conscience. Agents have shown similar strength showings and we know for a fact Neo>>>Agents.

God that movie is truly horrendous in that everything looks fake.

Neo, in this thread, has his speed, strength and martial arts skills, that's all.

Look at the scene where YuLaw pwns those cops, his speed is insane, as is his strength. He dodges bullets!!! 😱 Literally dodges them.

Neo does the same thing only against real opponents.

Seriously that movie looks so fake in some of those scenes it's sickening. Only half-way decent part is the climax fight scene.

Real opponents? You mean living, breathing beings?

No. Superhumans, Vampires, Agents, etc.

And YuLaw did the same against Gabe. You cant seriously look at both movies and say Neo is faster and stronger. What has Neo done to match YuLaw lifting two motorcycles and using them as weapons? When has Neo ever ran fifty mph?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here is YuLaw in his best scenes:

YouTube video

Dude can run FIFTY m.p.h., man. Has Neo ever shown the type of strength that YuLaw showed at 1:59?

doesn't matter, Neo can fly. We've never seen Neo display running speed because he never needed to run because he can fly. His flying speed was off the chart. The same can be said about his strength. Neo never had to lift cars because his physical strength was always enough to down his enemies. He never needed additional force.

Neo cannot fly in this thread.

i know but if he can fly as fast as he can why can't he run just as fast

Why? Cuz he isn't shown doing so.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And YuLaw did the same against Gabe. You cant seriously look at both movies and say Neo is faster and stronger. What has Neo done to match YuLaw lifting two motorcycles and using them as weapons? When has Neo ever ran fifty mph?

Bit silly to say that he can't use his flying and then use that as an argument that he can't run 50mph...Why would he run 50mph when he can fly faster than sound?

Anyway. Given that Neo rarely does strength feats directly then you have to measure his power indirectly.

Smith punches through concrete walls with relative ease. Another agent (Johnson i think)ripped the roof off a car with no effort whatsoever. The same agent jumped onto the front of a car and completely smashed the engine in causing it to flip.

Neo makes short work of agents with almost no effort.

Punching holes in concrete, lifting up two motorcycles and using them as weapons.........which is more impressive?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Punching holes in concrete, lifting up two motorcycles and using them as weapons.........which is more impressive?

Yeah so an agent who can't punch holes through over a foot of concrete yet neo manages to destroy him with one hand without even looking at him. He also dispatched 3 agents with the abilities I mentioned above whilst barely breaking a sweat.

You only need to look at the last fight in revolutions to see the levels of power they are generating. Punches with enough power to throw each other back hundreds of feet and then smash the road surface when landing. Impacts generating enough energy to blast out every window in the surrounding buildings. Throwing each other with enough power to smash each other through concreate walls.

Then there was the final impact that Neo survived. Smith smashing him into the ground at a speed fast enough to generate enough energy to cause a crater 15 feet deep and create a shock wave that travelled several city blocks and seriously damaged concrete buildings and threw cars large distances.

Yes, but this was due greatly to the momentum they had while flying. Neo doesn't have that momentum here. It's strictly his martial arts skills, speed and strength versus YuLaw. If we give Neo all his powers, YuLaw is his *****.

Let me clarify a bit on Neo here. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Neo can use only the speed, strength and martial arts skills that he displayed in the multiple Smith fight in Reloaded. Minus flight, of course.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Let me clarify a bit on Neo here. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Neo can use only the speed, strength and martial arts skills that he displayed in the multiple Smith fight in Reloaded. Minus flight, of course.

That'll be the fight in which he sent numerous Smiths (all of which are more powerful than standard upgraded agents and vastly more powerful than normal humans) flying to all corners of the square they were fighting in as well as, when being crushed by them, sent about 20 of them flying with power alone.

Yes, but this was due greatly to the momentum they had while flying.

You're missing my point, which is that that level of kinetic energy, despite its effects on the surroundings, did very little damage to Neo. Hence anything that Yulaw is going to throw out is going to cause even less so.