Originally posted by james2099
Yes..... But since juggernaut is not in this battle.... Gladiator destroys superman in a power and powerless fight.
How does a powerless Cain beat a powerless Clark?
Cain can't beat Clark unless he is a better fighter in a powerless scenario so you either think Cain is a better fighter than Clark, or Clark wins because he is a better fighter than Cain.
Are you secretly the 50 Cent guy?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixSuperman is not a skilled fighter..... Cain is a brawler, a get down and dirty fighter. Superman does not have what it takes without his powers, lex luthor, a regular human beat pre-crisis superman azz in a fist fight... A book you might have never seen when supes lost his powers and was just like a regular human.... not like a regular alien who may be stronger than a human. They are no different than humans.
How does a powerless Cain beat a powerless Clark?Cain can't beat Clark unless he is a better fighter in a powerless scenario so you either think Cain is a better fighter than Clark, or Clark wins because he is a better fighter than Cain.
Are you secretly the 50 Cent guy?
Originally posted by james2099
Superman is not a skilled fighter..... Cain is a brawler, a get down and dirty fighter. Superman does not have what it takes without his powers, lex luthor, a regular human beat pre-crisis superman azz in a fist fight... A book you might have never seen when supes lost his powers and was just like a regular human.... not like a regular alien who may be stronger than a human. They are no different than humans.
A day of training with WW or Batman trumps anything Cain has learned which is nothing. The Cain you see is a brawler because he is invulnerable, he doesn't have to worry about getting hit/hurt or missing a blow, there is no penalty usually. He couldn't hang with Thor h2h for a second.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixHe hung with thor without his shields and was not invulnerable... Thor was impressed at how much punishnment cain could take..... And are you saying that you could train a day with tyson and then get in the ring with one of the fighters that tyson trains on and used to fight on monday night... knowing that tyson would win. Could you beat that punching bag fighter that fights tyson??
A day of training with WW or Batman trumps anything Cain has learned which is nothing. The Cain you see is a brawler because he is invulnerable, he doesn't have to worry about getting hit/hurt or missing a blow, there is no penalty usually. He couldn't hang with Thor h2h for a second.
Originally posted by james2099
He hung with thor without his shields and was not invulnerable... Thor was impressed at how much punishnment cain could take..... And are you saying that you could train a day with tyson and then get in the ring with one of the fighters that tyson trains on and used to fight on monday night... knowing that tyson would win. Could you beat that punching bag fighter that fights tyson??
Hung with him? He was Thor's punching bag for 60 seconds. He couldn't gain the advantage and that wasn't a completely powerless Cain. If that Cain was completely powerless as in human stats then one punch from Thor would've ended his life.
I'm saying that Superman didn't train with them for a day and he has fought for over 1000 years. Cain has no real h2h skills. Trust me I know more about Cain than you do.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixAnd i know more about superman than you do.... Supes has no real h2h skills either.. I have supes 1st ever issue and beyond... There is nothing about supes or cain that i dont know about... Did you know that gladiator is noted as the first character to ever stop the juggernaut?? didn't know that did you??
Hung with him? He was Thor's punching bag for 60 seconds. He couldn't gain the advantage and that wasn't a completely powerless Cain. If that Cain was completely powerless as in human stats then one punch from Thor would've ended his life.I'm saying that Superman didn't train with them for a day and he has fought for over 1000 years. Cain has no real h2h skills. Trust me I know more about Cain than you do.
Originally posted by james2099
And i know more about superman than you do.... Supes has no real h2h skills either.. I have supes 1st ever issue and beyond... There is nothing about supes or cain that i dont know about... Did you know that gladiator is noted as the first character to ever stop the juggernaut?? didn't know that did you??
Did you know that's bullshit as the two have never fought let alone met? The fact that Superman can use pressure points automatically says he has real h2h skills. He doesn't just punch wildly like Cain. I doubt you have all of Clark's issues let alone know more about him then the resident Supes experts here like Phil, Raoul, and that other guy.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixAre you in for a big surprise.. They have met in the comics... but i see that you are too young to know.... Phil, Raoul and that other guy together could not lift my comicbook collections.
Did you know that's bullshit as the two have never fought let alone met? The fact that Superman can use pressure points automatically says he has real h2h skills. He doesn't just punch wildly like Cain. I doubt you have all of Clark's issues let alone know more about him then the resident Supes experts here like Phil, Raoul, and that other guy.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixYou shall have it. But i have to go through enough comicbooks to cover an entire semi... Trailer and all. And my brother has more than me, so he may have that issue. Just like the one where cyclops blasted through adamantium... I still have to get raoul on that one.
Please post the scan of Gladiator stopping him. Give an issue number as well.
Originally posted by james2099
You shall have it. But i have to go through enough comicbooks to cover an entire semi... Trailer and all. And my brother has more than me, so he may have that issue. Just like the one where cyclops blasted through adamantium... I still have to get raoul on that one.
Trolling...once again it's so 2000 and late.
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixWell since you think i am trolling, just forget the whole thing... It seems that everytime i show my opinion, i get called names, cursed at or called a troll or get threats of being banned.... And it only happens when i say something against superman..... So to stop people from ganging up on me........ I will never answer any thread with supermans name in it again.... I will never start a thread with his name in it again.
Trolling...once again it's so 2000 and late.
Originally posted by james2099
Well since you think i am trolling, just forget the whole thing... It seems that everytime i show my opinion, i get called names, cursed at or called a troll or get threats of being banned.... And it only happens when i say something against superman..... So to stop people from ganging up on me........ I will never answer any thread with supermans name in it again.... I will never start a thread with his name in it again.
If you used actual feats that were plausible today and not some PC things for falsely claimed feats like Juggernaut and Gladiator then your comments would be welcomed.