Originally posted by Advent
And you're still here. Trolling. This must be your newest hobby.
And you're still here. Evading. This must be your newest hobby.
I can do that, too.
Really, Advent, either way, I still win. You can evade to your heart's content; everyone else will still see you running from something.
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What have I run from? I've argued this with you and Mr. Anderson for some four pages. I'm continuing this debate in my own thread. Did you somehow think everyone would overlook that? Now you're asking me to give you George Lucas' words on Anakin having the highest potential and questioning how good Chris Cerasi is at his job.
Originally posted by Advent
What have I run from?
I honestly don't know, sugarbear. That's what I'm here to find out. You come here with borrowed arguments straight from Illustrious's failbag of tricks and you've become the Tazmanian Devil of backpeddling. I don't know what you're running from.
But running is never the answer.
Unless you're being attacked by polar bears.
I've argued this with you and Mr. Anderson for some four pages.
We have very different standards of what constitutes "arguing."
Plz retaliate with "troll."
I'm continuing this debate in my own thread. Did you somehow think everyone would overlook that? Now you're asking me to give you George Lucas' words on Anakin having the highest potential and questioning how good Chris Cerasi is at his job.
Yes, I need you to provide me the quote about Anakin's potential. It's critical to myyour argument.
Originally posted by Advent
[b]Stop trolling.
Oh, snap! a strawman of a strawman. what a parody that would be? too bad i didn't use a strawman.I'm wrong either way? How can I be wrong on something I'm not arguing? Oh? What's that? I can't? You're using a strawman? And in the most obvious way? Good game.
Firstly, quotes - my Buddha, quotes stating "the most powerful of X". Not showings of power, not the character's knowledge or abilities, but simply: a quote. As I've explained, these quotes about "being the most powerful ever (past, present, future)" are just bullshit. The problem I have is when you state that according to canon character X is better than character Y based on just these encompassing quotes, which are not descriptive action or anything of the sort.
For example, there is nothing that he looks to that says -absolutely- Sidious is more powerful than Ragnos or Nihilus.
Wrong!! The darkside source book says so definitely, as does Dark Empire.
apparently the author states that sidious is the most powerful sith in history.
It's dependent on the author and his interpretation of the characters or what's needed for the story. Which Chris Cerasi, editor for LucasBooks, confirms.
Sure, absolutely, except when we have absolute narrative that claims someone is the best.
That means, in most cases, that we're examining the characters and deciding who's better than who.
That's the whole point of a hypothetical Vs. match and the entire sub-forum! LucasBooks' canon apparently doesn't give a shit about Yoda vs. Caedus...so, is it their view that Yoda is more powerful than Caedus?No Idea, but they said sidious is the most powerful sith in history, so its obvious their view is that sidious is more powerful than revan or nihilus. The author's interpretation says so, as does anyone who owns a pair of brain cells and has read the quotes.
insufficient. the canon states that sidious is the most powerful sith in history.
We don't know. We have no idea if Yoda could beat Caedus in a straight fight. Nothing canon says definitively.
that is substance. The most powerful foe the darkness had ever known will defeat any other foes of the darkness, quite obviously. Interpretation can and will render the entire vs forum pointless. I can interpret anything i want to into the movies. I interpret that vader broke through obi-wan's soresu in episode 4 and defeated him making vader's djem so better than obi wan's soresu, or that vader was more powerful than sidious because he killed him.
That's all. "Not because some quotes saying that [they] are". And this is why the Vs. forum exists. Instead of hiding behind ambiguous phrases and hyperbole, we actually put down some substance. Or am I wrong? Do you guys enjoy "LOL YODA CONFIRMED MOST POWERFUL JEDI UP TO PT! ROTS NOVEL NUB. U LOSE!" type of debate?
It doesn't work.
Yawn.I'm "commonly known as a moron"? That's news to this whole forum again. You should become the KMC Newscaster.
You are such a coxcomb.
Did you realize people [at least when I debated regularly] considered me among the most knowledgeable, proficient debaters? Yes, that includes Lightsnake, Dr. McBeefington, Elite Hunter and the resident forumtrollretired debater: Gideon.
Hell, my first mega-post on the forum earned praise from Janus, IKC and Illustrious. From Janus so much so that he invited me to his original forum when it first started and even asked me to take over in a debate for him.
Frankly, if I had a phallus on this forum, it'd be huge. But enough about my accolades on the Vs. forum, what have you done here other than cement your stupidity in history with non-editable posts?
I'm sorry, thank you for pointing out my type-o. It makes me feel good to know that when I accidentally switch two letters, while writing at 45 wpm Senility will catch up with me.[/B]
Yes, considering you can't even spell "friend" right, I'm not sure why you feel to the need to attempt to please your clearly undersized e-peen by challenging my intellect.
. The most powerful foe the darkness had ever known will defeat any other foes of the darkness, quite obviously.
A (the one quoted as more powerful) hasn't slept for a month, has all his limbs broken and is high as a kite on morphine. He must fight B (one not quite as powerful), who is in possession of the Lightsaber of wtfpwnage, which cuts through anything (even other lightsabers) and is a mile long in diameter and length. Who wins?
Originally posted by Nephthyssmartass.
A (the one quoted as more powerful) hasn't slept for a month, has all his limbs broken and is high as a kite on morphine. He must fight B (one not quite as powerful), who is in possession of the Lightsaber of wtfpwnage, which cuts through anything (even other lightsabers) and is a mile long in diameter and length. Who wins?
Originally posted by Incanuslay down face down and put your hands on the back of your head with the fingers interlocked. They won't be able to claw your face and will have a hard time pulling you over to slash your vitals. If you can convince them you are dead, that's a good thing too.
What if they are grizzly or American balck bears? Then do you run, or die?