Jason Vorhees in Arkham Asylum

Started by jinzin20 pages
Originally posted by jasofisc
When did Jason take a van to the body without breaking a bone and how do you know that he didn't? your reaching bad

Oh my mistake, thrown from an airborn van.
How is this reaching? It's what he does.... 😐
Same when he got a roof dropped on him or walked out of an explosion that leveled a 2 story house from ground zero. To argue that he doesn't have superhuman durability is just insane.

Originally posted by jasofisc
Bane can rip cars in half Jason wont be a problem.
When has Bane EVER ripped a car in half? Much less with Venom?

Originally posted by jasofisc
funny how Jason doesn't do the body switching thing in any other move other then the one he dies in. I call PIS

You think it's okay for Jason to be effected by drugs in FvsJ but you call PIS to the ENTIRE PREMISE for another one of his movies that wasn't a crossover?.... yeah.. that's logical. 🙄

Originally posted by jasofisc
i'm not wanking the rogues your wanking Jason cold and hard to think he's just going to stab croc. not happening croc is stronger and faster with more weapons both his natural ones and anything he can grab. like bars and appliances. you act as though the machete is a god weapon. can't wait for you to post "Jason's Machete>>>> thor's hammer" The machete can be doged (like freddy did) or blocked (you know like how bane is quick enough to grab an object and block gun fire with it)
Ummm... how in the world is Croc going to be equipt with more weapons by grabbing shit than Jason? Who does the same thing... 😕

And did you just seriously equate Killer Croc to THOR?!?!?! 😂

We can clearly see what level you think Arkhams' finest are at, it's small wonder why you give them so much credit.

Originally posted by jasofisc
no you prefer to delude your self with the fantasy that Jason can take down two super power opponents who are stronger and better fighters.

oh and you like to makes lists of people who have beat croc before how about a girl with low teleknitic powers, mouth from the goonies (whine all you want about how jason wasn't a zombie yet but your example of Bane was when croc wasn't mutated to the level he is now and was weaker) camp counselors, a teenager who can't swim, his distant relative, an old man, a robot that might be all i'm sure others can add to the list if they want.

bane or croc aren't going down

Uh, no... neither one of them are stronger than Jason, they might be faster, but while they're more skilled at fighting Jason's more effecient at killing.

You don't seem to get how human Jason and Zombie J are two different beasts entirely so I'll ignore half that crap.

Fact is the only ones to beat Z-Jason so far have been Tommy Jarvis, Tina's ghost-dad, an entire swat team equipt with a surprise attack and rocket launchers, and that robot... The only one Croc would have beat there in the same situation? Jarvis.. that's it.

Originally posted by jinzin
Oh my mistake, thrown from an airborn van.
How is this reaching? It's what he does.... 😐
Same when he got a roof dropped on him or walked out of an explosion that leveled a 2 story house from ground zero. To argue that he doesn't have superhuman durability is just insane.

When has Bane EVER ripped a car in half? Much less with Venom?

You think it's okay for Jason to be effected by drugs in FvsJ but you call PIS to the ENTIRE PREMISE for another one of his movies that wasn't a crossover?.... yeah.. that's logical. 🙄

Ummm... how in the world is Croc going to be equipt with more weapons by grabbing shit than Jason? Who does the same thing... 😕

And did you just seriously equate Killer Croc to THOR?!?!?! 😂

We can clearly see what level you think Arkhams' finest are at, it's small wonder why you give them so much credit.

not equating croc to thor at all just how devastating you see the machete read my post again.

croc with no weapons has his claws and teeth jason has his hands. so that would give croc more weapons. i didn't think that was a hard concept to understand but i guess i was wrong.

just saying body switching was a plot device. and it was, all croc or bane needs to do is walk away then jason just has non powered people to body hope to and they would be like a cat fighting a lion.

their is a huge difference to being throwing from an airborn van (assuming you mean FVJ) and being hit by a van. and how would you know he didn't break a bone he has a healing factor.

if you want a test of Jason's duriblity then check out Jason vs freddy vs ash when ash cuts off his arm with a chain saw. seemed pretty human frigile to me. he does have a healing factor if that's what your talking about then i understand. And that will give him an edge but not so much that it will be like slaughtering a teen.

what's insane is to ignore on panel explanations (in Jason X they state that he has a healing factor which would account on how he gets up from stuff) vs something you just make up as an explanation.

Originally posted by jinzin
When has Bane EVER ripped a car in half? Much less with Venom?

Bane hasn't ripped a car in half to my knowledge, but I seem to recall him lifting up a Ferris wheel once. mmm

No he has ripped threw a car but he was ON venom.

Originally posted by iceman24567
No he has ripped threw a car but he was ON venom.

Do you happen to remember what issue it's from?

Secret Six i forget it was the issue after Deadshot stole the get out of hell free card. Bane also stomped the shit out of Jr's whole crew.

Originally posted by jinzin
Uh, no... neither one of them are stronger than Jason, they might be faster, but while they're more skilled at fighting Jason's more effecient at killing.

You don't seem to get how human Jason and Zombie J are two different beasts entirely so I'll ignore half that crap.

Fact is the only ones to beat Z-Jason so far have been Tommy Jarvis, Tina's ghost-dad, an entire swat team equipt with a surprise attack and rocket launchers, and that robot... The only one Croc would have beat there in the same situation? Jarvis.. that's it.

Oh i do understand the differnce i just thought if you were going to make a list discounting croc's further mutation i would make one that doesn't include how killed jason when he was a zombie and who killed him when he was not. yeah well your list doesn't account for how powerful croc has become due to further mutation (which show you knowlege of croc to a T) my point is if we are going to make a list of who as beat who lets be fair about it. croc would easly beat the swat team so would bane look at the darn respect thread bane has done it because he's not stupid enough to be caught like jason was. Not sure what would happen to the robot if it attacked bane or croc. how would the ghost dad beat bane or croc

question about bane i thought he was off venon entirely (while somehow retaining his strength) now according to the scans in the respect thread with him and hourman in the respect thread. not sure on his secret six appearance.

He is currently off venom he almost had a relapse in the latest issue but it was their only choice at the time but Artemis pretty much made him taking venom pointless.

Originally posted by batdude123
Bane hasn't ripped a car in half to my knowledge, but I seem to recall him lifting up a Ferris wheel once. mmm

a ferris wheel?! holly crap when?

Originally posted by iceman24567
He is currently off venom he almost had a relapse in the latest issue but it was their only choice at the time but Artemis pretty much made him taking venom pointless.

so does he still retain his strength

Originally posted by jasofisc
so does he still retain his strength
No he's at normal levels or whats normal for him.

Originally posted by iceman24567
No he's at normal levels or whats normal for him.

so normal for him is arm ripping? (according to the respect thread maker this http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=39612_Secret_Six_010_021_122_95lo.jpg happened while off venom.)

Yeah thats pretty normal he also has crazy agility and speed.

WOW

Joker would have made Jason kill everyone, but not his girl, and make him kill batman!!!!!

killer crock and bane will beat jason, people are forgeting that its not all about strength... so ye in strength they might be equel but lets look at the entire picture, jason is really and i mean really slow ... freddy was able to land 10 shots at him before jason could even react, in jason x a soldier was able to give him couple of karate kicks before he could react, jason is very slow and bane doesnt need that many shots to take him out just 1-2 good blows to knock his butt down

also lets put ion the fact that bane is a very skilled fighter while jason doesnt know anything about fighting at all, he only knows brute slow strength so seriously? jason doesnt have any chance against someone his strength caliber only much faster and much more skilled

and they dont have to kill him they can just take him apart i mean a shot with a murter from a gun in jason goes to hell was able to take him apart like nothing which means his body parts arent that hard to tear apart

Freddy is very fast and could land 10 shots on just about anyone.

Originally posted by jasofisc
not equating croc to thor at all just how devastating you see the machete read my post again.

croc with no weapons has his claws and teeth jason has his hands. so that would give croc more weapons. i didn't think that was a hard concept to understand but i guess i was wrong.

just saying body switching was a plot device. and it was, all croc or bane needs to do is walk away then jason just has non powered people to body hope to and they would be like a cat fighting a lion.

their is a huge difference to being throwing from an airborn van (assuming you mean FVJ) and being hit by a van. and how would you know he didn't break a bone he has a healing factor.

if you want a test of Jason's duriblity then check out Jason vs freddy vs ash when ash cuts off his arm with a chain saw. seemed pretty human frigile to me. he does have a healing factor if that's what your talking about then i understand. And that will give him an edge but not so much that it will be like slaughtering a teen.

what's insane is to ignore on panel explanations (in Jason X they state that he has a healing factor which would account on how he gets up from stuff) vs something you just make up as an explanation.

Uh, yeah, you did. You think me arguing for Jason's ability to cut Croc is somehow close to on the same level of me thinking his Machette's can contend with Thor's hammer, your equivocation. Not mine.

Body hopping was the ENTIRE premise for the movie, not just a plot device to move the film along, but the actual plot OF THE FILM. you simply can't write it off. I know you really want to though.
Bottom line is that it's an ability that Jason has if his body is comprimised and unfortunatley for Croc (the only person here who could begin to contend with Jason in h2h2) IF he did beat Jason and somehow retained his motor funtions and limbs, he's A) too stupid to try and resist Jasons telepathic suggestions and hypnosis and B) ALREADY wants to eat every opponent he comes accross.

Thus, him eating Jason's heart and becoming possessed by Jason is practically a given if he ended up given Jason fits.

Now, Jason has superhuman durability you can't just continue to ignore this. He's actually been hit by many cars and his body doesn't end up mangeled. Again, you're ignoring what he has done, He was shot by hundreds of bullets without being torn to shreds, he's been shot point blank with shotguns in the stomach without being cut in half, he wheathered the explosion that leveled (completely flattened) a 2 story house and was at ground zero of that explosion, he got nailed with a massive steel still in the face repeatidly and it didn't deconstruct his bones. Nails shot at his face with telepathy strong enough to tear a house apart failed to impale farther than an inch into him. The sheer fact that he can punch down or through steel doors and walls without splattering his hand first are a testiment to his durability.

In any case you're arguing using a double standard here as you already argued that NO HUMAN could take the amount of damage that Jason took when he was a human.. which is true. Repeated shovels to the face, 14 hacks with an axe to his wrist that failed to sever it, an axe to the head that failed to reach his brain, a machette to his neck that failed to take of his head. He's insanely durable and you simply can't chalk that up to his healing factor unless you think it works instantaneously which we've seen it doesn't... and the only evidence of that it does comes from one page in a single F13 comic. This isn't what I've made up. It's what's been presented on screen or on panel.