The Protege vs The Fury

Originally posted by Mr Master
I never claimed Scatterbrain manipulates Time,
I've said from the beginning that Scatterbrain expands your Consciousness across Time:

Scatterbrain got owned immediately
after using her Time-based Omniversal attack on Fury. - Mr Master

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B

"Time distorting around her"

Only proves that one's Consciousness is billowing outside the mind,
and into the greater concept of Time,
which is infinitely broader than what's contained in one's mind.

I think in this regard, we agree no? [/B]

Originally posted by id369

Actually you did, on page 2 of this thread.

Scatterbrain got owned immediately
after using her Time-based Omniversal attack on Fury. - Mr Master

"Time-based Omniversal attack"
because it concerns one's Consciousness being expanded across all of Time in the Omniverse.

Not Time itself being manipulated.

So please, ask before misconstruing my posts.

Originally posted by id369

No one denies, that. Its well within reason if a character has ample power or skill in the realm of psy. However, D Dude covered why it’s a mental attack. Targeting the “Temporal Lobe of the Brain”, to expand ones conscious. That’s a mental attack.

According to Marvel Comics,
the company that published the Jaspers Warp arc,
according to Alan Moore,
the Writer of the story,

it's one's Consciousness that's attacked, not just the mind,
the mind just happens to be where the Consciousness derives from.

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"Time distorts around her.
Motion breaks down into juddering stroboscopic images.
Seconds stretch into centuries.
Aeons condense into instants"

..........................................................................................................

Fascination (Scatterbrain) wasn't even trying to hurt Brian,
and she knocked him out cold.

When Scatterbrain wants to hurt you,
this TIME affect expands across the Omniverse!

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"

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So yea, in order to avoid this attack,
you have to ...

a. Have no brain, hence no Consciousness.

b. Shut down your brain, hence no Consciousness.

One way or another,
it's all about the Consciousness being affected.

And how does Scatterbrain affect you Consciousness?

By literally (in an instant) expanding your Consciousness to Cosmic proportions.

And what's the scale of this Conscious expansion? (Cosmic Awareness)

Omniversal.

***

This is like gaining Photon's Awareness in an instant.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What does this prove?

Absolutely nothing concerning Scatterbrain and her power.

It proves that the attack was more dependent on the physical nature of the target's consciousness (aka. the conscious brain) than some sort of intangible consciousness that you alluded to.

I also seems to state that the Fury has a secondary nervous system that it could use in case its head/brain got attacked.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Already stated that they compliment each other, so ... 😐
But the Nervous System is not a second brain.

*The nervous system is like a network that relays messages back and forth
from the brain to different parts of the body.

This is how the "Brain" is involved with the "Nervous System."

You just copied and pasted from Wiki,
and didn't take the time to read further ... shame on you.

Wait. So you think the Brain COMPLIMENTS the nervous system but is not a part of it?

You need to do a little reading buddy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually I didn't.

"Time-based Omniversal attack"
because it concerns one's Consciousness being expanded across all of Time in the Omniverse.

Not Time itself being manipulated.

So please, ask before misconstruing my posts.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Not according to Marvel Comics.

According to Marvel Comics,
the company that published the Jaspers Warp arc,
according to Alan Moore,
the Writer of the story,

it's one's Consciousness that's attacked, not just the mind,
the mind just happens to be where the Consciousness derives from.

=================================

"[b]Time distorts around her.
Motion breaks down into juddering stroboscopic images.
Seconds stretch into centuries.
Aeons condense into instants"

..........................................................................................................

Fascination (Scatterbrain) wasn't even trying to hurt Brian,
and she knocked him out cold.

When Scatterbrain wants to hurt you,
this TIME affect expands across the Omniverse!

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So yea, in order to avoid this attack,
you have to ...

a. Have no brain, hence no Consciousness.

b. Shut down your brain, hence no Consciousness.

One way or another,
it's all about the Consciousness being affected.

And how does Scatterbrain affect you Consciousness?

By literally (in an instant) expanding your Consciousness to Cosmic proportions.

And what's the scale of this Conscious expansion? (Cosmic Awareness)

Omniversal.

***

This is like gaining Photon's Awareness in an instant. [/B]

It’s a mental attack, wait let me politically correct. It’s a “Conscious” attack. The victem is coping with the effects of having its conscious expanded to such degree. Not that Scatterbrain or the Victim are actually interacting with all realities at all point of time. Just coping that his conscious has expanded such degree.

Big, Inflated, recited posts coming in 3.…2.…1.….

Originally posted by id369
Big, Inflated, recited posts coming in 3.…2.…1.….

INC! lol.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
INC! lol.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

It proves that the attack was more dependent on the physical nature of the target's consciousness (aka. the conscious brain) than some sort of intangible consciousness that you alluded to.

If you Consciousness is being expanded across the Omniverse,
this then becomes Cosmic Awareness,
which is much more than just the mind/brain.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

I also seems to state that the Fury has a secondary nervous system that it could use in case its head/brain got attacked.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Wait. So you think the Brain COMPLIMENTS the nervous system but is not a part of it?

You need to do a little reading buddy.

There's more to the Nervous System than the brain.

The Nervous System uses the brain in it's function.

I mixed up my words due to repeating myself so much,
concerning Scatterbrain and the facts at hand.

Originally posted by id369

For all I care, you can bicker and change your stance as much as you want. Fact of the matter is, you want to pass of a mental attack for a time base attack. And its not.

Originally posted by id369

Oh woeee…its not mental, but a “conscious” attack. Even though your mind is your conscious.

😐

Originally posted by id369

And I am not saying she manipulates time,
but when she wants to hurt you, This Time EFFECT expands the Omniverse.
But I am not saying she manipulates time at all.

I never said Scatterbrain expands the Omniverse.

Go die if you're gonna lie about my posts.

Originally posted by id369

The victem is coping with the effects of having its conscious expanded to such degree. Not that Scatterbrain or the Victim are actually interacting with all realities at all point of time. Just coping that his conscious has expanded such degree.

Literally On Panel its stated that Scatterbrain
DOES in Fact expand one's Consciousness across the Omniverse:

"And with her touch,
the guard finds his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"

Nice try.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Scatterbarin, with a touch,
can instantly expands your Consciousness across the Omniverse.

If you Consciousness is being expanded across the Omniverse,
this then becomes Cosmic Awareness,
which is much more than just the mind/brain.

Still doesn't mean that the attack is an Omniversal/Temporal attack. It only means that it has a unique effect attached to it. You don't call Cyclops' optic blast a "Dimensional/Solar attack" do you? Or WOULD you??? O_o

Originally posted by Mr Master
it does, and it did.

I never said the Brain is not part of the Nervous System,
I said it's not the same thing.

There's more to the Nervous System than the brain.

The Nervous System uses the brain in it's function.

I mixed up my words due to repeating myself so much,
concerning Scatterbrain and the facts at hand.

How can something be part of a nervous system and not be the same thing at the same time? O_o The scan states that there was an "auxiliary nervous system". Not an "auxiliary nervous system that didn't include the brain".

Originally posted by id369

Big, Inflated, recited posts coming in 3.…2.…1.….

It really easy to be an A-Hole ey id?

Originally posted by id369

I cant argue with it true debater, its on paper panel fact evidence, coming from TOAA Mr. Pencil himself Alan Moore authorized and published by Marvel.

When you present On Panel proof to debunk the On Panel evidence,
come again,
until then,
continue to rub yourself,
just like you did during the Jaspers IS the 616 Universe debate,
which everyone agreed with me,
save for one troll.

Originally posted by Mr Master
(never new the "Brain" was though)

Its targeting a part of the brain to effect the mind.

Originally posted by Mr Master

This is 100% bull shit ... expected.

I never said Scatterbrain expands the Omniverse.

Go die if you're gonna lie about my posts.
.

Originally posted by Mr Master

More fallacies.

Literally On Panel its stated that Scatterbrain
DOES in Fact expand one's Consciousness across the Omniverse:

"And with her touch,
the guard finds [b]his Consciousness
instantly expanded across the Infinite breadth of the Omniverse"

Nice try. [/B]

This is 100% Bullshit.

Go die if you're gonna lie about my posts.
uggh

Ok friends

Just agree to disagree

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Still doesn't mean that the attack is an Omniversal/Temporal attack.
It only means that it has a unique effect attached to it.

If this is what has you in circles,
then forget about that and stick to the meat of the debate.

Does Scatterbrain expand one's Consciousness across the Omniverse,
in a Time-based fashion?

(again, NOT controlling Time itself, just one's Consciousness across Time)

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

You don't call Cyclops' optic blast a "Dimensional/Solar attack" do you?
Or WOULD you??? O_o

Therefore inconsequential.

Please, as heated as our discussion has become,
don't turn into a total A-Hole like your only supporter

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

How can something be part of a nervous system and not be the same thing at the same time? O_o The scan states that there was an "auxiliary nervous system". Not an "auxiliary nervous system that didn't include the brain".

The Mind is where the Consciousness derives from,
the Mind resinates from the brain.

So, ok, I'll give you the Fury switching it's Consciousness to another brain.

See I'm a man,
but will you concede it's a second Consciousness that Fury switched to,
that just happens to be in the brain?

"Everything is suddenly moving so slowly ...
...female interfering with Temporal Lobe of brain ...
and so it shuts its brain down ...
and it switches its Consciousness to the auxiliary nervous system in its back"

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What are we still dealing with according to the On panel evidence?

"it switches its Consciousness to the auxiliary nervous system in its back"

The "Consciousness" no?

Originally posted by Mr Master

More gobbledygook.

When you present On Panel proof to debunk the On Panel evidence,
come again,
until then,
continue to rub yourself,
just like you did during the Jaspers IS the 616 Universe debate,
which everyone agreed with me,
save for one troll.

I would continue but, replying to your posts take up to much of my little time.

Especially
When
You
Break
Up
Your
Replies
Like
This
And post
No sequential
Rebuttals.

Originally posted by id369

Its targeting a part of the brain to effect the mind.

Consciousness is "Awareness"

"Awareness" on an astronomical scale is Cosmic Consciousness.

Cosmic Consciousness is what Eon and Captain Marvel/Genis/Photon have.

It makes one a God according to Marvel.

Originally posted by id369

I didn’t say she did either, False Debater.

Originally posted by id369

but when she wants to hurt you, This Time EFFECT expands the Omniverse.

Caught .. false debater.

Originally posted by id369

Never did I denied, his conscious was not expanded Ominiversally.
Just that victim is not interacting, in all realities at all points of time.

So 🤨 is Omniversal Consciousness, if not connected to everything across all of creation?

I think you should pick up some Captain Marvel books,
before moving further into this debate.

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Or perhaps more of your own beloved character Phoenix,
who just happened to do to Mastermind
what Scatterbrain did to the guard, and Jamie Braddock:

(On an incredibly smaller scale though)

Phoenix gave Mastermind Cosmic awareness on a Universal scale,
she did so by expanding his Consciousness across the Universe.

Funny thing is,
thus Universally Conscious expansion makes one a God,
imagine what Scatterbrain does to ya. fear

Originally posted by id369

I don’t have to present anything,
because you save me the trouble of doing so, by replying with same image 10 times over.

Which is worse?

Originally posted by id369

Now if you want to claim, that your words in an extension of the writers is incorrect. Everyone here can interpret the same piece of material differently. That’s why its debated.

It's you two that are challenging Moore's own words.

Originally posted by id369

I would continue but, replying to your posts take up to much of my little time.

Especially
When
You
Break
Up
Your
Replies
Like
This
And post
No sequential
Rebuttals.

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I don’t have time for this redundant shit. Scatterbrain targets parts of your brain to effect your mind. The consequence of her actions leads, to the expansion of her conscious.

Not that actual time manipulation is taking place, or if the victim can authentically interact with all points of time (as in reach out, touch, type of interactions). He is only coping with the effects of his brain being you know scattered.

Originally posted by id369

I don’t have time for this redundant shit. Scatterbrain targets parts of your brain to effect your mind. The consequence of her actions leads, to the expansion of her conscious.

Scatterbrain targets your brain to effect your mind
in order to expand your Consciousness across the Omniverse.

No amount of spinning/twisting the facts will ever change that.

Originally posted by id369

Not that actual time manipulation is taking place,
or if the victim can authentically interact with all points of time
(as in reach out, touch, type of interactions).

Scatterbrain just expands your awareness, (Consciousness)
meaning knowing all things at once across the Omniverse.

Like Photon!

But way ta go on the complete, conscious bull shit you're throwing around,
in order to make yourself look right.

Again, and for the record:

Originally posted by Mr Master

It targets the brain, to effect one's Consciousness.

Consciousness is "Awareness"

"Awareness" on an astronomical scale is Cosmic Consciousness.

Cosmic Consciousness is what Eon and Captain Marvel/Genis/Photon have.

It makes one a God according to Marvel.

Originally posted by id369

He is only coping with the effects of his brain being you know scattered.

Hence the name [Scatterbrain]

because she scatters your Consciousness across Creation. (Omniverse)