how was he weakened?
aside from that Marvel has charged his fist and proved that he could ko superman now even if superman was ready for those punches how many magic amp punches can he take b4 getting ko'ed?
he has proven that physically weaker magical beings who are not even in world shakers can hurt him due to them being in a magic body with nothing but physical attacks...
one i can think of top of my head is Silver Banshee..
superman has even bn cut by a magic playing card..
forgot the name of the guy it was when supes paid him a visit in jail.
but there are examples where just being a magic being compensates for sheer lack of strength and being able to hurt supes completely bypassing his durability whether it is a blast or a slap, kick. etc etc
Originally posted by King Castle
how was he weakened?aside from that Marvel has charged his fist and proved that he could ko superman now even if superman was ready for those punches how many magic amp punches can he take b4 getting ko'ed?
he has proven that physically weaker magical beings who are not even in world shakers can hurt him due to them being in a magic body with nothing but physical attacks...
one i can think of top of my head is Silver Banshee..
superman has even bn cut by a magic playing card..
forgot the name of the guy it was when supes paid him a visit in jail.but there are examples where just being a magic being compensates for sheer lack of strength and being able to hurt supes completely bypassing his durability whether it is a blast or a slap, kick. etc etc
During the fight it was made plainly obvious that he wasn't able to absorb sunlight the way he usually did. He says more than once that something is wrong, and it's stated that the government has a power-sapping satellite in orbit.
when marvel ko'd superman it was a cheap shot. two of them in fact.
magic can hurt him, but his hf can deal with almost anythiing thrown at him. when diana slit his throat it was mere seconds before he healed fully.
they need strength to hurt him with a magic attack. he's still super durable, so both strength and magic are needed to hurt him when it's blunt force.
and there's also the fact that superman has fought and beaten plenty of magical beings in his time. he's been in enough fights to know how to hold his own against magic users.
plus, he's faster than adam. he's arguably stronger and more durable. he's smarter. he has more ranged attacks than adam does. his senses are more heightened than adam's too.
what i am saying is if a human who happens to be made of magic energy maybe immortal who is no stronger then the average person can hurt superman by throwing a card at him which is made up of the same energy as him and or kicks him making superman feel pain and flinch shouldnt logic dictate that a superhuman magic being could do worse?
now if superman's solar absorption was hampered some one wouldnt it still mean he started off at his normal high end and how long does it take for him to begin to weaken?
some ppl argue it takes days for him to start using up his reserves let even if they are wrong a few seconds at best minutes he would not use up his full reserves or be that sufficiently compromised that it would be a onesided fight.
supes was just overall outclassed by his magical nature and strength plain and simple.
but lets say Supes was compromised and severely handicap in that fight atlas only used brawling tactics and strength..
Adam would be using his speed, strength flight, magic, wisdom so superman would have to fight well above his average depiction against a guy who is brutal and kills..
also wouldnt it peg that adam would be drawing from his god attributes to constantly stay at peak Heru and the the Egyptian gods?
what could Superman really do to a magic construct body that would be in character.
its still just a fight with who has the better durability and one has a glaring weakness that the other does not..
what lvl of combat speed could superman use that adam cant counter?
Originally posted by King Castle
what i am saying is if a human who happens to be made of magic energy maybe immortal who is no stronger then the average person can hurt superman by throwing a card at him which is made up of the same energy as him and or kicks him making superman feel pain and flinch shouldnt logic dictate that a superhuman magic being could do worse?now if superman's solar absorption was hampered some one wouldnt it still mean he started off at his normal high end and how long does it take for him to begin to weaken?
some ppl argue it takes days for him to start using up his reserves let even if they are wrong a few seconds at best minutes he would not use up his full reserves or be that sufficiently compromised that it would be a onesided fight.
supes was just overall outclassed by his magical nature and strength plain and simple.
but lets say Supes was compromised and severely handicap in that fight atlas only used brawling tactics and strength..
Adam would be using his speed, strength flight, magic, wisdom so superman would have to fight well above his average depiction against a guy who is brutal and kills..
also wouldnt it peg that adam would be drawing from his god attributes to constantly stay at peak Heru and the the Egyptian gods?
what could Superman really do to a magic construct body that would be in character.
its still just a fight with who has the better durability and one has a glaring weakness that the other does not..
what lvl of combat speed could superman use that adam cant counter?
it wasn't him that was magical. it was the cards iirc.
magic in and of itself isn't toxic to superman. it has to be destructively aimed.
he's constantly being recharged by the sun when he exerts himself. the fight with atlas (someone of comparable physical stats) was always going to be an exertion.
he starts off with several days worth yes, but they can be drained quickly if he exerts himself as i said.
it was a cheap shot. you can wrap it up any way you like, but superman wasn't fighting back. it's a cheap shot, end of story.
superman's hf wasn't working. he was being weakened the entire time. look at what one blast did to supergirl.
why would he? he's fought adam and captain marvel at his normal levels before and performed fine. he might have to step up his game to beat adam, but it wouldn't be anything he hasn't done before.
adam has a physical body. superman can hurt that body.
it isn't a weakness. it's a lack of defence to attacks. it's not the same thing. plus, superman's ranged attacks are useful. very much so.
his fastest?
Let's see
Superman would be stronger (because he is not holding back)
Superman is faster (by feats)
Superman has far more powers and abilities (HV which messes BA up, freeze breath to slow BA down, etc.)
Superman has shown better fighting ability
Superman clearly wins.
Now if Superman had only strength, speed, flight, and durability then it would be closer to even. But since Superman has more powers at his disposal then it makes him take the majority.
Black Adam took full blast from Power Girl's heat vision even after sharing his power's to isis, mary and billy..
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Supe's vision aint gonna slow him down.
Originally posted by King Castle
Black Adam took full blast from Power Girl's heat vision even after sharing his power's to isis, mary and billy..
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Supe's vision aint gonna slow him down.
Adam was burning, and Kal's heat vision is more powerful than hers.
Adam's power was reduce to a quarter of its full potential at least it was insinuated in the narration box.. 😉
here he is at full power is not sharing and although i agree that superman is superior to her i dont see it being to far above if anything power girl being from the original universe as Kal-L she should be significantly stronger then superman of the current Universe. superdur
Originally posted by King Castle
Adam's power was reduce to a quarter of its full potential at least it was insinuated in the narration box.. 😉here he is at full power is not sharing and although i agree that superman is superior to her i dont see it being to far above if anything power girl being from the original universe as Kal-L she should be significantly stronger then superman of the current Universe. superdur
except that she isn't. his feats far outweigh hers by a long way. all kryptonians from earth 2 aren't automatically more poweful. it's just Superman with all his crazy feats that is.
a feat war is nice to show how far above one is compared to others in a different tier but the fact that once you reach a certain tier not all may have similar feats some may be lacking completely and the only feats is how well they do against those others in the same tier.
i am not a fan of the weight lifting Scan wars especially when shown that another can easily compete punch for punch against the other..
Power girl was able to go punch for punch with supergirl and she was effected mentally and trying to kick her @$$ and she was doing just fine.. i honestly dont see Power girl being significantly weaker to simply ignore and dismiss her attack as if superman will eclipse it by an astronomical margin..
its like saying that BRB cant do this or that b/c he is no thor and lacks the same history feat...
i still say Adam will rip him a new one especially when he charges up his fist like when he faced superboy prime..
Originally posted by King Castle
a feat war is nice to show how far above one is compared to others in a different tier but the fact that once you reach a certain tier not all may have similar feats some may be lacking completely and the only feats is how well they do against those others in the same tier.i am not a fan of the weight lifting Scan wars especially when shown that another can easily compete punch for punch against the other..
Power girl was able to go punch for punch with supergirl and she was effected mentally and trying to kick her @$$ and she was doing just fine.. i honestly dont see Power girl being significantly weaker to simply ignore and dismiss her attack as if superman will eclipse it by an astronomical margin..
its like saying that BRB cant do this or that b/c he is no thor and lacks the same history feat...
i still say Adam will rip him a new one especially when he charges up his fist like when he faced superboy prime..
even going by your logic, Superman is still superior to Power Girl by a decent distance. I never said astronomical. It is substantial, though.
and clark is just going to stand there and let adam hit him with his super magic punch?
