Thanos vs Galactus

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
What if Big G just used the UN on Thanos...the PG wouldn't help him then.

gems suck. 😐

with just the soul gem, warlock defeated mephisto in hell. i guess it would depend on what exactly the PG gave him and how much time he had it first. thor was becoming progressively stronger as time went on. if thanos had time to become strong enough, i'd guess he could eventually stalemate at least and maybe win via attrition and g's energy depletion. if he were granted the gem right away and told to fight, i'd say g wins. gems are all about 'potential' which makes them silly for threads.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Yet Thor using just the power gem was frozen into a block of force, and stalemated by Thanos...

Galactus could easily pull this off.

Power Gem alone doesn't equal physically unbeatable =/

Agreed

Originally posted by quanchi112
By blasting him over and over again. Galactus can't physically beat him with the power gem.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was Thor with the power gem. Thanos knows the gem's potential and would wield it far better than Thor. Thor was also only getting to Thanos' level.

When has Galactus employed something like so?

Yes, if you are tapping into it it does.

Quite a 1 dimensional answer and now you've allowed yourself to be set up easily.

Thanos is helpless if G wishes to mind rape, erase his memories of any knowledge of the Infinity gems whatsoever, bring Thanos to the astral plane, etc. None of those are physical in any capacity and the only way Thanos would win is if he had the mind gem, which he does not in this contest. We've all seen Thanos get swiftly overpowered on the astral plane by Galactus, and Thanos had Moondragon helping him.

Thanos loses swiftly.

And about that simple stasis field that Thanos used to defeat Thor w/Power Gem?

When has Galactus employed something like so?

Thor, Adam Warlock, Quasar, Thanos...everyone, incapacitated all at once.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Well that itself is also debatable. I wouldn't say he's the best wielder "by far." I would say he's the most [B]frequent wielder by far of powerful objects. Magus and Adam Warlock both possessed the gauntlet briefly...and it was actually Adam Warlock who displayed anything remotely close to a complete understanding of the power he wielded and it's implied responsibilities (made apparent during the cosmic "town-hall" between the LT, Warlock, and the cosmic entities).

All Thanos has done is use the IG and CC for destructive purposes, and he has been the only one to ever use the HOTI. I wouldn't say that's enough evidence to title him "the best wielder," only that he comes upon them more often than the rest of marvel's characters. [/B]

I think that it's implied to a strong enough extent. With the IG, Thanos had no interest whatsoever in speaking about the responsibilities in wielding such power because he had not been written as an anti-villain yet and because his end goal itself contradicted him having any moral responsibilities.

With the heart, he might have been the only one to actively use it to its potential, but Akhenaten also wielded the heart, to less than impressive results before losing the heart. This is compounded by the fact that Thanos was specifically chosen to correct the fundamental flaw in existence, and I would even dare to presume that it wasn't due to his newfound ability to be a hero when needed. If a self-sacrificing hero was necessary, the aforementioned Warlock or Surfer would have been better choices -- it's pretty obvious that Thanos was chosen for other reasons, one of which I would say is his understanding of ultimate power.

The incident with the CC is another good example of Thanos' ability to wield power. Thanos created/became a universe with one cosmic cube. Magus did the approximate same thing with arguably five cosmic containment units, despite the fact that cosmic containment units limit the powers which they grant somewhere along the line of them becoming cosmic cubes (as from Mephisto).

Thanos has also explained the usages and abilties of each gem on panel. If there is any user well-equipped to utilise the PG, it's Thanos. Not sure he would take anything close to a majority (I think G still takes it), but Thanos is being sold a little short here.

G takes it

Galactus takes it.

I mean c'mon... Thanos is indeed powerful with the PG.
But he won't win through brute strength alone, not against an uber Abstract.

Written properly Thanos would win. The power gem would give him complete invulnerability to anything that Galactus could hurl at him. This battle would be a mugging, and Thanos would be walking away with the big G's wallet.

Written properly Thanos would win. The power gem would give him complete invulnerability to anything that Galactus could hurl at him.

Galan can and will hurt Thanos. It'd require him to work, though.

Originally posted by Survivor19
You mean, like Thanos was repeatedly hurt by Earth heroes when wielding PG? He didn't seem totally invulnerable at all...

Galan can and will hurt Thanos. It'd require him to work, though.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Agreed

Quite a 1 dimensional answer and now you've allowed yourself to be set up easily.

Thanos is helpless if G wishes to mind rape, erase his memories of any knowledge of the Infinity gems whatsoever, bring Thanos to the astral plane, etc. None of those are physical in any capacity and the only way Thanos would win is if he had the mind gem, which he does not in this contest. We've all seen Thanos get swiftly overpowered on the astral plane by Galactus, and Thanos had Moondragon helping him.

Thanos loses swiftly.

And about that simple stasis field that Thanos used to defeat Thor w/Power Gem?

Thor, Adam Warlock, Quasar, Thanos...everyone, incapacitated all at once.

When has Galactus ever mindraped anyone? He defended himself there and was more than capable of doing so. He won't attempt to mindrape Thanos don't be absurd.

The blast only took an unsuspecting Thanos by means of Galactus' tech without the power gem. This battle will take place in the physical world and will not work with Thanos in possession of the power gem. Galactus will weaken and Thanos will wear him down and beat him.

Sorry, but the power gem makes it's user physically unbeatable and Thanos is one of the best out there at using it. Thor alone was a beast imagine what Thanos could do with it alone.

Originally posted by Survivor19
You mean, like Thanos was repeatedly hurt by Earth heroes when wielding PG? He didn't seem totally invulnerable at all...

Galan can and will hurt Thanos. It'd require him to work, though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It appears to me he is using his ship here to do that said feat. Does Thanos also get all his ships, etc. i fyou are allowing Galactus to have access to his giant ship?

You're actually arguing that Galactus' ship can do things that he himself can't? Such as incapacitate someone in a stasis field?

wow.

When has Galactus ever mindraped anyone? He defended himself there and was more than capable of doing so. He won't attempt to mindrape Thanos don't be absurd.

In other words, a viable tactic used to defeat your character is dismissed because it's "absurd."

He won't attempt to mindrape Thanos...for what reason? This is a battle in which the characters fight to the peak of their ability. Galactus has erased Norrin Radd's memories before, even manipulated his actual essence (soul). The very reason why Thanos asked to meet him on the astral plane was because Thanos thought he'd be safe. He was proven dead wrong.

And now you argue that Galactus will simply ignore that encounter and fight with his bare fists against a power gem-possessed Thanos. Laughable logic.

This is the kind of faulty logic that people drive people to say "SS hasn't created black holes in anyone's eyes before, and he won't do it here, don't be absurd."

Thanos doesn't have the mind gem here. Stop acting like an attack against Thanos that circumvents a physical confrontation is irrelevant.

The blast only took an unsuspecting Thanos by means of Galactus' tech without the power gem. This battle will take place in the physical world and will not work with Thanos in possession of the power gem. Galactus will weaken and Thanos will wear him down and beat him.

Just like the blast from Thanos' gun took an unsuspecting Thor without the power gem. That battle took place in the phyiscal world and will not work with Thor in possession of the power gem.

Oh wait.

Sorry, but the power gem makes it's user physically unbeatable and Thanos is one of the best out there at using it. Thor alone was a beast imagine what Thanos could do with it alone.

This statement is just as 1-dimensional as the fights depicted in comics between cosmic beings...all energy blasts.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
You're actually arguing that Galactus' ship can do things that he himself can't? Such as incapacitate someone in a stasis field?

wow.

In other words, a viable tactic used to defeat your character is dismissed because it's "absurd."

He won't attempt to mindrape Thanos...for what reason? This is a battle in which the characters fight to the peak of their ability. Galactus has erased Norrin Radd's memories before, even manipulated his actual essence (soul). The very reason why Thanos asked to meet him on the astral plane was because Thanos thought he'd be safe. He was proven dead wrong.

And now you argue that Galactus will simply ignore that encounter and fight with his bare fists against a power gem-possessed Thanos. Laughable logic.

This is the kind of faulty logic that people drive people to say "SS hasn't created black holes in anyone's eyes before, and he won't do it here, don't be absurd."

Thanos doesn't have the mind gem here. Stop acting like an attack against Thanos that circumvents a physical confrontation is irrelevant.

Just like the blast from Thanos' gun took an unsuspecting Thor without the power gem. That battle took place in the phyiscal world and will not work with Thor in possession of the power gem.

Oh wait.

This statement is just as 1-dimensional as the fights depicted in comics between cosmic beings...all energy blasts.

Thanos has the power gem here. That feat was also due to his ship and on a completely unsuspecting Thanos without the power gem. Context. Wow.

When has Galactus ever attempted to mindrape someone? Answer he doesn't. He only sought to defend himself and that he did. When Thanos blasted him Galactus blasted him back. They fight in character on here. You are using a few situations and taking the context completely out of them to form a cbrish trype argument that still fails.

Galactus has complete power over norrin not Thanos. Please don't compare the two ever again.

Surfer doesn't create blackholes in people's eyes or ears making it completely absurd. This isn't cbr.

Thor wasn't powerful enough to resist at the time of the blast. Thanos is and is much more adept at using the pg.

Unless you can prove a pg user like Thanos can be beaten with the pg or else concede. Thanos wins the battle.

pg user like Thanos can be beaten with the pg

Since Galan is above them, his chances are higher, to say the least.

Originally posted by Survivor19
Will you believe Thanos himself?
He calculated that he COULD be beaten by bunch of street-levelers, metas and couple of heralds (while with PG).

Since Galan is above them, his chances are higher, to say the least.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm saying his ship did this. he didn't so you cannot even prove he would so in direct combat under his own power. He used his ship against Tyrant that doesn't mean he could have the same affect on Tyrant without his ship. 🙄

Thanos has the power gem here. That feat was also due to his ship and on a completely unsuspecting Thanos without the power gem. Context. Wow.

When has Galactus ever attempted to mindrape someone? Answer he doesn't. He only sought to defend himself and that he did. When Thanos blasted him Galactus blasted him back. They fight in character on here. You are using a few situations and taking the context completely out of them to form a cbrish trype argument that still fails.

Galactus has complete power over norrin not Thanos. Please don't compare the two ever again.

Surfer doesn't create blackholes in people's eyes or ears making it completely absurd. This isn't cbr.

Thor wasn't powerful enough to resist at the time of the blast. Thanos is and is much more adept at using the pg.

Unless you can prove a pg user like Thanos can be beaten with the pg or else concede. Thanos wins the battle.

Absolutely not. You've already implicitly conceded because you have a tunnel vision defense of "Galactus won't do it, therefore thanos wins."

That will not win anything whatsoever.

You have terrible logic. He used his ship against Tyrant and Tyrant reversed it because he is a technopath. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you know Galactus uses his ship to perform acts that he could otherwise do himself, but without using his personal power (i.e., draining energy from planets...Galactus doesn't need his ship to do this, but the ship makes it more efficient because it allows him to use mechanical power instead of his own personal energies to consume). Had Galactus used his own power to syphon the energies, Tyrant would have been unable to reverse the effects because there is no technology involved. Of course the effects aren't the same, yet you put that forth like some bit of exclusive logic that only you understand.

Context, WOW. Just like when Thanos used a stasis field against Thor. But let's put it into context...what did Thor have in his possession aside from mjolnir....tell me again what he had..??

😆 You can't even mount a defense dude. Make some actual rebuttals. Forum rules state combatants fight to the best of their abilities by default. So you have Thanos using the power gem to use energy blasts, fine. And now you're implicitly saying that Galactus' best abilities are.....energy blasts? Please. In your next post you'll continue to ignore the capabilities available to G...that's all well and good since that's the only thing you can do to demand concession instead of actually debating.

And nevermind the fact that Galactus actually was proceeding to KILL Thanos on the astral plane. He was also prepared to KILL him again with the second blast, only to have Thanos literally beg for his life for the first and only time in the character's history.

Galactus has shown the intent to KILL Thanos, more than once.

And now Thanos is coming at him flailing his arms like an ape with energy blasts flying, and Galactus isn't going to defend himself?

Because you know...when Galactus "defended himself" Thanos nearly died. Twice.

But your logic has Galactus NOT doing that because Galactus isn't "defending himself" in this fight.

Please. And you're asking for concession? Put some logic in your posts man...

Galactus has the TP feats to back up my claims. You have wild statements about bull-rushing through with energy blasts. You've got to be more creative than dismissing feats and claiming they're cbr-ish, because you're incapable of getting around the fact that it's a viable tactic.

To reiterate my previous point about it being a viable tactic:

Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Substituting "Galactus" for "Flash" and "mind rape/astral plane contention" for the speed blitzing tactic" yields...a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that ability

I'd give Galactus the wins for now unless Thanos has the reality gem.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Absolutely not. You've already implicitly conceded because you have a tunnel vision defense of "Galactus won't do it, therefore thanos wins."

That will not win anything whatsoever.

You have terrible logic. He used his ship against Tyrant and Tyrant reversed it because he is a technopath. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you know Galactus uses his ship to perform acts that he could otherwise do himself, but without using his personal power (i.e., draining energy from planets...Galactus doesn't need his ship to do this, but the ship makes it more efficient because it allows him to use mechanical power instead of his own personal energies to consume). Had Galactus used his own power to syphon the energies, Tyrant would have been unable to reverse the effects because there is no technology involved. Of course the effects aren't the same, yet you put that forth like some bit of exclusive logic that only you understand.

Context, WOW. Just like when Thanos used a stasis field against Thor. But let's put it into context...what did Thor have in his possession aside from mjolnir....tell me again what he had..??

😆 You can't even mount a defense dude. Make some actual rebuttals. Forum rules state combatants fight to the best of their abilities by default. So you have Thanos using the power gem to use energy blasts, fine. And now you're implicitly saying that Galactus' best abilities are.....energy blasts? Please. In your next post you'll continue to ignore the capabilities available to G...that's all well and good since that's the only thing you can do to demand concession instead of actually debating.

And nevermind the fact that Galactus actually was proceeding to KILL Thanos on the astral plane. He was also prepared to KILL him again with the second blast, only to have Thanos literally beg for his life for the first and only time in the character's history.

Galactus has shown the intent to KILL Thanos, more than once.

And now Thanos is coming at him flailing his arms like an ape with energy blasts flying, and Galactus isn't going to defend himself?

Because you know...when Galactus "defended himself" Thanos nearly died. Twice.

But your logic has Galactus NOT doing that because Galactus isn't "defending himself" in this fight.

Please. And you're asking for concession? Put some logic in your posts man...

Galactus has the TP feats to back up my claims. You have wild statements about bull-rushing through with energy blasts. You've got to be more creative than dismissing feats and claiming they're cbr-ish, because you're incapable of getting around the fact that it's a viable tactic.

If Galactus could just as easily drained Tyrant himself he would have done so. His blasts and what not further empowered him. Galactus was a trainwreck in that fight.

Thor wasn't beyond Thanos' power on his own at that point. The moment he was freed in a few hours there was no force block out there that could hold him. Thanos is going to go well beyond Thor at his power levels at the time because he was basically just on Thanos' level. It didn't work on Odin because at the time he was more powerful than Thor when it was attempted on Thor. Get it? I hope so.

They also fight in character. Galactus isn't sitting in his ship while Thanos is standing there fighting other characters without the pg gem completely unaware of Gaalctus' presence. Context.

Galactus doesn't mindrape characters in combat. Context. He did it to defend himself.

Yes, because Thanos on his own isn't powerful enough to defeat a well nourished Galactus under his own power. One blast really drained big G though. You throw the pg in there and this is Thanos' fight all day. He can't be physically beaten while one blast through one shield leaves Galactus weakened.

No, both are acting in character. Thanos has shown without the pg to at least knock Galactus a few football fields and one shield has depleted vital energies from galactus. All in the comic. Context.

When did Galactus almost kill Thanos with the pg?

Galactus defends himself like he usually does. Blasts his opponents into submission. Won't work this time.

You haven't proven Galactus can beat Thanos with the pg. It's an amp.

When has Galactus ever mindrape attacked someone to defeat them? When?

Originally posted by Tenebrous
To reiterate my previous point about it being a viable tactic:

Substituting "Galactus" for "Flash" and "mind rape/astral plane contention" for the speed blitzing tactic" yields...[B]a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that ability [/B]