Thanos vs Galactus

Started by Tenebrous10 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
He only defended himself because he was being attacked there. Galactus doesn't mindrape opponents. This is in character.

Flash doesn't beat his opponents a milisecond into the fight. This is in character. So he doesn't speed blitz every single time. Because he's acting in character. yet the forum rules explicitly state this is a viable tactic to use on the vs. forum.

Nevermind the fact that it's in Galactus' intent to actually KILL Thanos.

In other words, your best rebuttal is to IGNORE FORUM RULES.

nevermind that forum rules state that if the character has exhibited the ability in the past and that he can undisputably do it, then it's a viable tactic to do so.

nevermind that you completely ignored my post stating that it's a viable tactic.

LOL.

You've already conceded, without even forming a single argument whatsoever.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
To reiterate my previous point about it being a viable tactic:

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It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Substituting "Galactus" for "Flash" and "mind rape/astral plane contention" for the speed blitzing tactic" yields...[B]a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that ability [/B]

He takes Thanos to the astral plane and violates him there. It doesn't matter if Thanos has the power gem, the time gem, the space gem...he doesn't have the mind gem here

Galactus actually tried to KILL Thanos on the astral plane (in character!) only to have no one less than Moondragon evacuate thanos from the astral plane before he was swiftly killed.

Note that Moondragon says "I figured that someone, in the past, HAD to have tried a PSYCHIC DEFENSE against him" i.e. Galactus attacked telepathically before.

Thanos is heavily impressed with Galactus' TP.

And what is the difference between Thanos with the Power Gem and regular Thanos on the astral plane?

Nothinggggg

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Thanos is getting overrated again in this board.

Galactus

Galactus. The argument for him just bypassing the PG and using the mental plane attack for the win makes sense.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Substituting "Galactus" for "Flash" and "mind rape/astral plane contention" for the speed blitzing tactic" yields...[B]a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that ability [/B]

A mental attack on an unamped Thanos would be difficult enough. He's beaten Moondragon with the Mind Gem on the astral plane before, and as you noticed, nearly mindraped Galactus before he had time to realize what was wrong.

Moreover, when Thanos attempted to get into Thor's head while wielding the Power Gem, he couldn't even begin to **** with him, nor could the Infinity Watch. Galactus would have that same exact situation happen to him were he to try. Any attack that Galactus would attempt to pull off could be reversed, as Thor managed to do to Strange and Surfer and Warlock's attacks. Reality warping wouldn't help, either. Thanos' will is too strong and he's survived reality warping multiple times.

And power for power wise, you aren't overwhelming someone who can use the Gem competently.

Thanos takes the win in a decent struggle.

Originally posted by Enyalus
A mental attack on an unamped Thanos would be difficult enough. He's beaten Moondragon with the Mind Gem on the astral plane before, and as you noticed, nearly mindraped Galactus before he had time to realize what was wrong.

Moreover, when Thanos attempted to get into Thor's head while wielding the Power Gem, he couldn't even begin to **** with him, nor could the Infinity Watch. Galactus would have that same exact situation happen to him were he to try. Any attack that Galactus would attempt to pull off could be reversed, as Thor managed to do to Strange and Surfer and Warlock's attacks. Reality warping wouldn't help, either. Thanos' will is too strong and he's survived reality warping multiple times.

And power for power wise, you aren't overwhelming someone who can use the Gem competently.

Thanos takes the win in a decent struggle.


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Originally posted by Tenebrous
Flash doesn't beat his opponents a milisecond into the fight. This is in character. So he doesn't speed blitz every single time. Because he's acting in character. yet the forum rules explicitly state this is a viable tactic to use on the vs. forum.

Nevermind the fact that it's in Galactus' intent to actually KILL Thanos.

In other words, your best rebuttal is to IGNORE FORUM RULES.

nevermind that forum rules state that if the character has exhibited the ability in the past and that he can undisputably do it, then it's a viable tactic to do so.

nevermind that you completely ignored my post stating that it's a viable tactic.

LOL.

You've already conceded, without even forming a single argument whatsoever.

Substituting "Galactus" for "Flash" and "mind rape/astral plane contention" for the speed blitzing tactic" yields...[B]a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that ability [/B]

He takes Thanos to the astral plane and violates him there. It doesn't matter if Thanos has the power gem, the time gem, the space gem...he doesn't have the mind gem here

Galactus actually tried to KILL Thanos on the astral plane (in character!) only to have no one less than Moondragon evacuate thanos from the astral plane before he was swiftly killed.

Note that Moondragon says "I figured that someone, in the past, HAD to have tried a PSYCHIC DEFENSE against him" i.e. Galactus attacked telepathically before.

Thanos is heavily impressed with Galactus' TP.

And what is the difference between Thanos with the Power Gem and regular Thanos on the astral plane?

Nothinggggg [/B][/QUOTE] Listen, that is a basic part of the flash's power while this was only one attempt from Thanos to overtake him there. Galactus doesn't take anyone into the astral plane to beat anyone. Ever. Flash uses his speed all the time. Quit ignoring the context and turning this into a cbr type debate.

Yes, and later on in the story Galactus tries to kill Thanos and he doesn't mindrape him. He blasts him which is IN CHARACTER.

No, you're whole point is trying to forget about Galactus' entire history and focusing on one defense of Galactus. That's it. I remember the one time I asked you for a scan proving Galactus can move as fast as the Surfer. I'm pretty sure you posted a scan from an alternate reality as proof thus breaking the rules. 🙂

Galactus fights in character which isn't mindraping from the start. He has never attacked anyone in that manner but only defended himself. Galactus later caught up with Thanos and tried blasting him into submission not mindraping him. Your argument wants us to forget the very fact they were even on the astral plane. I won't ever let you get away with this kind of cbrish tactic.

Only in defense. Context.

No, you are ignoring the context of the whole situation. Galactus didn't take Thanos into the astral plane he defended himself. When Galactus later wanted Thanos dead he blasted him. You aren't very good at this. I seem to know Galactus moreso than you do if you feel he goes around mindraping characters left and right.

The flash's main power is speed while Galactus doesn't mindrape opponents into submission. Feel free to get back to me when you aren't going to try to ignore the context of situations next time.

Thanos wins.

Originally posted by basilisk
Galactus. The argument for him just bypassing the PG and using the mental plane attack for the win makes sense.
How so? When he has ever attacked someone in this manner beforehand? He defended himself and it's all tenebrous can even say as he knows Galactus is beaten here all day. It isn't in character and Galactus has never done so before to attack anyone.

Thor turned the tables on them all and Thanos has defeated Minddragon before in a mind war. Don't sell Thanos or the pg short.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
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Thanos is getting overrated again in this board.

How so?

Originally posted by Enyalus
A mental attack on an unamped Thanos would be difficult enough. He's beaten Moondragon with the Mind Gem on the astral plane before, and as you noticed, nearly mindraped Galactus before he had time to realize what was wrong.

Moreover, when Thanos attempted to get into Thor's head while wielding the Power Gem, he couldn't even begin to **** with him, nor could the Infinity Watch. Galactus would have that same exact situation happen to him were he to try. Any attack that Galactus would attempt to pull off could be reversed, as Thor managed to do to Strange and Surfer and Warlock's attacks. Reality warping wouldn't help, either. Thanos' will is too strong and he's survived reality warping multiple times.

And power for power wise, you aren't overwhelming someone who can use the Gem competently.

Thanos takes the win in a decent struggle.

I'm proud of you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm proud of you.

That's the kind of morale boost I need.

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's the kind of morale boost I need.
With my endorsement you can't lose.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Moreover, when Thanos attempted to get into Thor's head while wielding the Power Gem, he couldn't even begin to **** with him, nor could the Infinity Watch. Galactus would have that same exact situation happen to him were he to try. Any attack that Galactus would attempt to pull off could be reversed, as Thor managed to do to Strange and Surfer and Warlock's attacks. Reality warping wouldn't help, either. Thanos' will is too strong and he's survived reality warping multiple times.

I'm not sure if that is due to the gem or the general state of Thor's mind, though. A bit along the lines of what MM experienced when he entered Joker's mind in Rock of Ages.

Originally posted by Ouallada
I'm not sure if that is due to the gem or the general state of Thor's mind, though. A bit along the lines of what MM experienced when he entered Joker's mind in Rock of Ages.

It was made pretty clear that he was actively resisting them, and even was the one to lure them into his mind to fight them on a plane of his own choosing.

It wasn't a passive type of resistance due only to him being a little nuts.

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I know. What I meant was more along the lines of whether the insanity that the watch resisted was due to the gem or due to Thor's own fractured mind, regardless of the reasons why the watch actually entered his mind in the first place. While it's entirely possible that it was due to the gem, that just sits a little awkwardly with the fact that Thor was written to be unable to utilise the gem ti its potential and the fact that the power gem isn't sentient.

people are actually arguing for thanos on this?

only the intelligent ones. and quanch. 😄

Originally posted by Enyalus
A mental attack on an unamped Thanos would be difficult enough. He's beaten Moondragon with the Mind Gem on the astral plane before, and as you noticed, nearly mindraped Galactus before he had time to realize what was wrong.

Moreover, when Thanos attempted to get into Thor's head while wielding the Power Gem, he couldn't even begin to **** with him, nor could the Infinity Watch. Galactus would have that same exact situation happen to him were he to try. Any attack that Galactus would attempt to pull off could be reversed, as Thor managed to do to Strange and Surfer and Warlock's attacks. Reality warping wouldn't help, either. Thanos' will is too strong and he's survived reality warping multiple times.

And power for power wise, you aren't overwhelming someone who can use the Gem competently.

Thanos takes the win in a decent struggle.

You're comparing Thanos' mental capabilities to Galactus'? Moreover, that Thor was WM, emphasis on Madness.

Let's not ignore the fact that Thanos blatantly stated on my scan that Galactus' TP was beyond him.

Quanchi: Snip

I wont ever let you get away with imposing this flawed logic

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It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal.
For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Read that underlined sentence. If you want to interpret "personality" as saying "oh today I want to use energy blasts instead of machine guns" go right ahead.

Personality for Galactus here...he has the intent to KILL thanos. Cosmic awareness lets him know that Thanos has the PG.

Out of all the powers at Galactus' disposal, what will he use?

"Even though Galactus doesn't clock each of his own opponents on the astral plane in the first millisecond in his comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that capability"

Originally posted by Tenebrous
You're comparing Thanos' mental capabilities to Galactus'? Moreover, that Thor was WM, emphasis on Madness.

Let's not ignore the fact that Thanos blatantly stated on my scan that Galactus' TP was beyond him.

When has Galactus ever dominated someone like so without first being invited there? Seriously. Galactus defended himself and that's it.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
I wont ever let you get away with imposing this flawed logic

Read that underlined sentence. If you want to interpret "personality" as saying "oh today I want to use energy blasts instead of machine guns" go right ahead.

Personality for Galactus here...he has the intent to KILL thanos. Cosmic awareness lets him know that Thanos has the PG.

Out of all the powers at Galactus' disposal, what will he use?

"Even though Galactus doesn't clock each of his own opponents on the astral plane in the first millisecond in his comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that capability"

Changing my quote to say snip is only further proving my case. It's also against the rules to do so.

When has Galactus ever attacked anyone on the astral plane before to start a battle? Why didn't he attack Thanos there later when he confronted him?

Everytime you butcher the context of what actually happened and why it did I will expose you.

Thanos wins.

I do not really understand how using TP will dpmehow help to 'bypass' the PG.
1) Thanos undoubtly has TP
2) Power gem amplifyes and backs up all and any powers its wielder posess. It can amp the mind gem as well

3) Therefore, with PG Thanos's TP will be amped to the unknown extent.

By all means, continue now. It's entertaining.
Also, don't you tell Galactus what he will use or not. He will use what he will see fit.

Originally posted by Survivor19
I do not really understand how using TP will dpmehow help to 'bypass' the PG.
1) Thanos undoubtly has TP
2) Power gem amplifyes and backs up all and any powers its wielder posess. It can amp the mind gem as well

3) Therefore, with PG Thanos's TP will be amped to the unknown extent.

By all means, continue now. It's entertaining.
Also, don't you tell Galactus what he will use or not. He will use what he will see fit.

The point is Galactus doesn't ever attack someone there he just had to defend himself the moment he was almost overtaken by Thanos.