Superboy Prime vs. Larfleeze

Originally posted by theICONiac
As much as I hate to agree with Quanchi ( 😄 ) what could Larfleezes constructs really do to SMP?

He'd roll through them all and wind up facing Larfleeze head-on.

PS: we all hate agreeing with Quanchi

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What did he do so different with Hal? In SC, he already obtained the ION force, and a host. All he needed was to get to the power battery. In rebirth, he was already affecting the corps in his own way.

You can ignore them because you know I am right. I think this argument is done.

Which one?

Prime is dangerous because nobody can control him. Not AM, not the Guardians and certainly not his future self. Larfleeze can be controlled by using the policy appeasement. However, it doesn't mean that Larfleeze is weaker. Also, compared to Parallax, Larfleeze can be just as dangerous.

What are you kidding me. I am on a wrestling team. My friends uses them. He still doesn't have as much muscles as me.

Of course, Prime isn't stupid.

remember, Prime has to only resort to Physical power in this matchup. His exotic powers will be absorbed, and physical attack won't to much harm to the the contructs. They are Ghosts after all. They also flicker in and out.

Your questions are irrelevant because we see the guardians negotiate. You put up scans where they say they won't but that all means shit when we see them actually negotiate. I can't believe you would put up the scans anyways in the first place.

Where they came for Parallax. They negotiated with the winner of the orange lantern right there.

I agree Prime is more dangerous because of these reasons further adding credibility to my argument. The reason they don't have to put Larfleeze down is because of this. They can afford to leave him in existence because even if they wanted and actually destroyed him someone else would eventually wield the power of greed.

Ok, this proves you don't know what steroids are. If you took steroids your body would blow up beyond your body's own potential. Forget about your friend and think about what steroids would do for your own body.

So, you finally agree, good.

Ok, Prime uses his strength all the time. It doesn't matter how he does it he will do it.

His constructs won't seriously affect Prime so they are a minor inconvenience.
When this arc is over let's do a battlezone with you representing Larfleeze and me representing my boy Prime.

Originally posted by theICONiac
As much as I hate to agree with Quanchi ( 😄 ) what could Larfleezes constructs really do to SMP?

He'd roll through them all and wind up facing Larfleeze head-on.

The point is parallax isn't going to threaten the entire corps each and every time he makes an appearance. Sc proved that. Not saying he cannot be a huge threat, but if you read sc you'd realize he was a minor threat with Prime and Am making appearances and what they actually did in that arc.

Your questions are irrelevant because we see the guardians negotiate. You put up scans where they say they won't but that all means shit when we see them actually negotiate. I can't believe you would put up the scans anyways in the first place.

Where they came for Parallax. They negotiated with the winner of the orange lantern right there.

I agree Prime is more dangerous because of these reasons further adding credibility to my argument. The reason they don't have to put Larfleeze down is because of this. They can afford to leave him in existence because even if they wanted and actually destroyed him someone else would eventually wield the power of greed.

Ok, this proves you don't know what steroids are. If you took steroids your body would blow up beyond your body's own potential. Forget about your friend and think about what steroids would do for your own body.

So, you finally agree, good.

Ok, Prime uses his strength all the time. It doesn't matter how he does it he will do it.

His constructs won't seriously affect Prime so they are a minor inconvenience. When this arc is over let's do a battlezone with you representing Larfleeze and me representing my boy Prime.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Do you not listen? He has the POTENTIAL!! We have seen what he can do with given enough time to prepare an assault.

Seriously, you don't even understand a simply arc. They clearly went to Okaara to take the lantern from Larfleeze and they SAID IT multiple times. They had to change because they couldn't take it.

😂

First of all, AO is better left alone because he can be controlled. However, that doesn't mean he is weaker, or able to be defeated by the guardians. How do we know? They fought 2 times before. Each time, the guardians lost badly.

That's if you keep using them

Even if someone is as stupid as... they would have to agree with a statement as that.

Yeah, but remember the lanterns flicker in and out of exitance. Read my post to ICONiac.

I don't know what BZ is.

They made their way right to Larfleeze and then had a brief dialogue basically saying screw it we can't destroy the orange light so let this guy have it.

Laugh because once again I proved my point.

When has Larfleeze ever defeated the guardians? When? Like usual you make things up and ignore the context of what actually happened. Good thing for Larfleeze they changed their minds. Prime was flying around turning on everything that moved. One guardian took his own life just to rid themselves of Prime. That's how dangerous he is.

Yes, and when the steroids wore off just like Prime he reverts back to his normal size thus proving my point again.

Yes, I have. Prime wins as he kills Larfleeze. He agrees with me, how could he not?

A battlezone.

Which only proves like any great supervillain what he is capable of. Like I said recently the guy was just a minor threat in sc.

They made their way right to Larfleeze and then had a brief dialogue basically saying screw it we can't destroy the orange light so let this guy have it.

When has Larfleeze ever defeated the guardians? When? Like usual you make things up and ignore the context of what actually happened. Good thing for Larfleeze they changed their minds. Prime was flying around turning on everything that moved. One guardian took his own life just to rid themselves of Prime. That's how dangerous he is.

I guess you are going to avoid all the feats that Larfleeze accomplished. Heck, you are avoiding the entire argument and just talking out of your ass for the best 5 pages. I don't know if you have read the Arc or not, but it was clear to everyone except YOU that the Guardians went to the Vega System to defeat AO and take his lantern. You continue to ignore what Larfleeze has accomplished in such a short time. I posted scans and you still IGNORE them like they don't exist. You continue to post your own idiotic opinion about how the guardians should win against AO when you clearly ignoring what happened 2 times already. Larfleeze already defeated the guardian with their extra help 2 TIMES. Each time, they couldn't destroy one constructs. I guess you want the author to come to your face and scream very nicely telling you in child's words what happened.

Yes, and when the steroids wore off just like Prime he reverts back to his normal size thus proving my point again.

Yes, I have. Prime wins as he kills Larfleeze. He agrees with me, how could he not?

I seriously don't see what you are arguing about. You keep posting about how you don't believe the Guardians + some lanterns would lose to Larfleeze. However, in there fight they couldn't harm his constructs, let alone hit them. He wasn't even fighting the guardians, he was speaking with Hal and negotiating and he was still kicking their ass. Their lanterns were getting split apart. They needed help from a VL to save them self's.
Hal was the only one capable to fighting Larfleeze and that because he was caught off guard and fighting a the best GL ever who by the way wielded two rings. Each powering each other to the maximum.
Even THEN, Hal was insignificant to one major construct that Larfleeze created. The guardians were idol at this point, they had no attack that could harm this ONE construct. Yet, you still talk about how luck Larfleeze was that the guardians didn't negotiate.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The point is, he is dangerous. He was able to destroy the universe with the amount of time he had. Heck, he'd do it agian, but the universe is now more aware of him. He was close to doing it in GL:rebirth. SC, not so much, but still a big threat.

Destroy the orange light? What are smoking? Do you not remember the scans I posted, or are you going to act completely stupid in this argument? They said it three times. They came for his RING and Lanterns. Case closed!! There is nothing more to argue here!! If you want to argue with someone, then do so with the author, he drew it.

Prime himself never killed a guardian. You don't know why that one guardian killed himself. Maybe at that time, it was the best situation. Larfleeze killed a guardian WITH EASE!! HE KILLED THE CONTROLLERS WITH EASE!!!

I guess you are going to avoid all the feats that Larfleeze accomplished. Heck, you are avoiding the entire argument and just talking out of your ass for the best 5 pages. I don't know if you have read the Arc or not, but it was clear to everyone except YOU that the Guardians went to the Vega System to defeat AO and take his lantern. You continue to ignore what Larfleeze has accomplished in such a short time. I posted scans and you still IGNORE them like they don't exist. You continue to post your own idiotic opinion about how the guardians should win against AO when you clearly ignoring what happened 2 times already. Larfleeze already defeated the guardian with their extra help 2 TIMES. Each time, they couldn't destroy one constructs. I guess you want the author to come to your face and scream very nicely telling you in child's words what happened.

Whatever, if you want to believe that. My opinion is that Prime had a body of a man, while his mental ability was still like a kid.

Funny, I already backed up my statement. You still ignore it, i guess.

Uhm, I put up the scan where the guardians were right in front of him and changed their minds. They didn't say we can't beat him they said someone else will wield it basically. You are just making things up.

One guardian took his own life to deal with Prime which shows you how bleak the situation was. We don't know how many guardians Prime could have taken out because one grabbed him and killed himself. Larfleeze isn't that big of a threat as of yet anyways. Do you think Larfleeze could break free from a suicide attack?

Again, I read the arc and understand why they left him alone. It wasn't because they couldn't beat him which even a foolish man can see. I posted the scan and watched you dance around it making up excuses.

No, like juice when it wore off his body returned to normal.

No, you didn't. Do you want to do a battlezone representing Larfleeze when this arc is over or what? Quit avoiding answering the question.

I never said he wasn't dangerous. Everytime he comes back he won't be the same universal threat though imo.

Uhm, I put up the scan where the guardians were right in front of him and changed their minds. They didn't say we can't beat him they said someone else will wield it basically. You are just making things up.

One guardian took his own life to deal with Prime which shows you how bleak the situation was. We don't know how many guardians Prime could have taken out because one grabbed him and killed himself. Larfleeze isn't that big of a threat as of yet anyways. Do you think Larfleeze could break free from a suicide attack?

Again, I read the arc and understand why they left him alone. It wasn't because they couldn't beat him which even a foolish man can see. I posted the scan and watched you dance around it making up excuses.

No, like juice when it wore off his body returned to normal.

No, you didn't. Do you want to do a battlezone representing Larfleeze when this arc is over or what? Quit avoiding answering the question.

I seriously don't see what you are arguing about. You keep posting about how you don't believe the Guardians + some lanterns would lose to Larfleeze. However, in there fight they couldn't harm his constructs, let alone hit them. He wasn't even fighting the guardians, he was speaking with Hal and negotiating and he was still kicking their ass. Their lanterns were getting split apart. They needed help from a VL to save them self's.
Hal was the only one capable to fighting Larfleeze and that because he was caught off guard and fighting a the best GL ever who by the way wielded two rings. Each powering each other to the maximum.
Even THEN, Hal was insignificant to one major construct that Larfleeze created. The guardians were idol at this point, they had no attack that could harm this ONE construct. Yet, you still talk about how luck Larfleeze was that the guardians didn't negotiate.

Larfleeze already absorbed all their attacks. He already killed a few guardians without even directly fighting them. He even killed a huge group of controllers in just a couple of panels. The controllers are just as powerful as the Guardians. Go ahead and make you excuses and ignoring what has happened.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Minor thread would indicate one is not dangerous.

OMG! 😂 😆 I hope this is a joke! They are infront of him and that mean that he is going to lose!! I guess you are clearly just looking one the pretty picture huh? HELLO!!! He said it, his power is still there!! All he has to do is call out his lanterns. NOTHING more. I seriously hope that was a joke.

Larfleeze without the lantern WONT be able to survive the suicide attack, BUT there is almost no chance of him getting caught in that situation. One of his lantern will absorb all the constructs, or energy the guardians throw at him. This was proven over and over again.

NO! See you didn't understand the arc. If you did you wouldn't be looking as foolish as you do now. They didn't LET him leave. They called a truce because they rather not fight and lose. They rather control him. If what you say is true then they just started a war of the spectrum lights just so they don't have to fight a guy they can beat. DO YOU SEE HOW IDIOTIC THAT IS??

Yeah, A TEENAGER NOT A MAN. He wasn't a man to start with!!

avoiding question. Dude, you need to catch up on what I am reading. Let me help you here. I said in the previous post WHAT IS BZ? You didn't answer.

I seriously don't see what you are arguing about. You keep posting about how you don't believe the Guardians + some lanterns would lose to Larfleeze. However, in there fight they couldn't harm his constructs, let alone hit them. He wasn't even fighting the guardians, he was speaking with Hal and negotiating and he was still kicking their ass. Their lanterns were getting split apart. They needed help from a VL to save them self's.
Hal was the only one capable to fighting Larfleeze and that because he was caught off guard and fighting a the best GL ever who by the way wielded two rings. Each powering each other to the maximum.
Even THEN, Hal was insignificant to one major construct that Larfleeze created. The guardians were idol at this point, they had no attack that could harm this ONE construct. Yet, you still talk about how luck Larfleeze was that the guardians didn't negotiate.

Larfleeze already absorbed all their attacks. He already killed a few guardians without even directly fighting them. He even killed a huge group of controllers in just a couple of panels. The controllers are just as powerful as the Guardians. Go ahead and make you excuses and ignoring what has happened.

The point is that the guardians didn't attempt to do battle and instead chose to negotiate. They didn't battle him and say they couldn't beat him. They chose not to battle him because they can't snuff out the orange light.

If a guardian grabs a hold of him it's over. Simple as that.

They weren't afraid of losing it just wouldn't do them any good when the orange light cannot be eliminated and they can use him for their own gain.

He still called himself a man when he reverted back to his regular body. Again, to say his body will reach that level of muscularity is foolish.

I said two posts ago a bz IS A BATTLEZONE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A BATTLEZONE IS?

The constructs weren't even close to defeating the guardians and Hal posed a threat with one additional ring. It's foolish to surmise that Larfleeze is greater than the combined might of the guardians when reading the actual story. Live in your own fantasy world.

Minor compared to the threat he originally was.

The point is that the guardians didn't attempt to do battle and instead chose to negotiate. They didn't battle him and say they couldn't beat him. They chose not to battle him because they can't snuff out the orange light.

If a guardian grabs a hold of him it's over. Simple as that.

They weren't afraid of losing it just wouldn't do them any good when the orange light cannot be eliminated and they can use him for their own gain.

I said two posts ago a bz IS A BATTLEZONE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A BATTLEZONE IS?

The constructs weren't even close to defeating the guardians and Hal posed a threat with one additional ring. It's foolish to surmise that Larfleeze is greater than the combined might of the guardians when reading the actual story. Live in your own fantasy world

The constructs proved that they can't be harmed by the guardians, but you CONTINUE TO IGNORE IT! I don't know why? Maybe something in your hand is preventing you from understand that! Just maybe!! Not only that, but the guardians already died because of the constructs and then you say they weren't even close to killing the guradians?? HECK, the the guardians themselves ADMITTED that Agent Orange that he almost diminished the number last time, and yet you CONTINUE TO DENY IT.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Oh god!

So why did they go to Okaara??? Why did they say give up your Rings? Why did they say they don't negotiate with terrorist?

1- They aren't going to grab him. They would have done it, but couldn't. TWICE!!!
2- What gives you that impression??

😂 😆 I can't believe what I am hearing! So their goal was to go to Okaara and tell him to start a war with the Blue Corps! Okay THANKS! hahha 😂

What the heck is wrong with you? I DON't know what it is!!

😂 😆 AGAIN!! HAL had two rings. You act like one extra ring is nothing yet that one ring proved to be stronger then anything the guardians can muster up. In addition, it was AO's weakness. So I don't understand what you even saying. It's like saying (lets pretend a what if) Hal defeat Sinestro because he only had a blue rings and a green ring. Nothing more!

The constructs proved that they can't be harmed by the guardians, but you CONTINUE TO IGNORE IT! I don't know why? Maybe something in your hand is preventing you from understand that! Just maybe!! Not only that, but the guardians already died because of the constructs and then you say they weren't even close to killing the guradians?? HECK, the the guardians themselves ADMITTED that Agent Orange that he almost diminished the number last time, and yet you CONTINUE TO DENY IT.

Because they originally didn't want to but realized that defeating him would gain them nothing.

1.They never tired to kill him. Ever. I wish you understood dialogue.
2.I have seen nothing from larfleeze to indicate otherwise. He isn't as strong or as fast as Prime. Period.

No, they realized that defeating him would gain them nothing. I posted the scan so why act like you don't understand it?

How can you come here for over six months and not know.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/

If you still don't get it then I guess your loss.

I said with an additional ring which meant 2. Why did you have to state two rings when i already stated it. This is my problem with you you don't grasp simple sentence structure.

The point is one lantern with one blue ring can pose a threat yet all of the guardians can't? LOL.

The constructs proved they cannpt defeat the guardians yet you ignore it.

I'm not saying he can't take a few guardians with him, but he isn't defeating them all.

AO ftw.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

PS: we all hate agreeing with Quanchi

Glad you agree.

Because they originally didn't want to but realized that defeating him would gain them nothing.

1.They never tired to kill him. Ever. I wish you understood dialogue. 2.I have seen nothing from larfleeze to indicate otherwise. He isn't as strong or as fast as Prime. Period.

No, they realized that defeating him would gain them nothing. I posted the scan so why act like you don't understand it?

I said with an additional ring which meant 2. Why did you have to state two rings when i already stated it. This is my problem with you you don't grasp simple sentence structure.

The point is one lantern with one blue ring can pose a threat yet all of the guardians can't? LOL.

The constructs proved they cannot defeat the guardians yet you ignore it. I'm not saying he can't take a few guardians with him, but he isn't defeating them all.

1- The controllers who are = to the Guardians lost to Agent Orange constructs like NOTHING!!
2- Agent Orange ALREADY killed the guardians and HE DIDN'T even fight them!!!
3- THEIR ATTACKS!!! DON'T do $h!T to his constructs!!!

Originally posted by Mindset
I love it

Which is why you didn't mention your mom.

But what does that have to do with anything?

Originally posted by Mindset
Which is why you didn't mention your mom.

But what does that have to do with anything?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
😂 Guess nobody told you, "Oh God!" in real life.

That's now what you said before! Also how does and I quote[you]!!!!! realized that defeating him would gain them nothing = that they can defeat him??

1: Didn't you just say that they originally didn't go to negotiate? I guess you are just making things up agian
2: 🤨 wtf does prime got to do with the guardians??

Again, that doesn't mean that they could. THERE WAS NO INDICATION that they could.

Because you act like that additional ring was nothing. You don't seem to understand how much power the ring has.

Thank you for agreeing with me. The guardians don't pose a thread as big as Hal with the blue ring. SHOW ME ANYWHERE, or ANYTHING to indicate otherwise.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU DUDE? Are you are seriously missing something in your brain that prevents you from comprehending simply statements?? HOLD ON!! I'lll repeat it AGAIN!! just for the heck of it!

1- The controllers who are = to the Guardians lost to Agent Orange constructs like NOTHING!!
2- Agent Orange ALREADY killed the guardians and HE DIDN'T even fight them!!!
3- THEIR ATTACKS!!! DON'T do $h!T to his constructs!!!

1.They didn't originally go to and then changed their minds. It's all been the same from me.

2.Prime couldn't break free from the suicide attack so I see no reason why Larfleeze can.

I never said It proved they could I am basing it off common sennse and Larfleeze's showings.

When did I state it was nothing. It still is less than all of the guardians combined.

Larfleeze negotiated with Hal and by circumstance Hal was able to be warrant his total attention. Saying Hal with the blue ring is greater than the combined threat of the guardians is ignorance at it's finest. The Guardians have never went all out against Larfleeze while in the same vicinity. They had the chance but decided against it.

1. The controllers aren't the guardians. Period.

2.Larfleeze didn't kill them the battle between he and his friend did. That battle didn't destroy anywhere near the whole lot of them. You don't even comprehend what occurs on panel. Seriously.

3.Prove his constructs can't be beaten. Prove they are unbeatable.

Want to do the battlezone? Why keep avoiding the answer?

Originally posted by xJLxKing

1- The controllers who are = to the Guardians lost to Agent Orange constructs like NOTHING!!

But, you have to remember...

The Controllers were caught completely off-guard. They had no idea what to expect.

With prep they would have fared oodles better.

It doesn't mean they can defeat him. What he has shown me is nothing that equates him defeating all of the guardians at once. Don' be ridiculous.

1.They didn't originally go to and then changed their minds. It's all been the same from me.

2.Prime couldn't break free from the suicide attack so I see no reason why Larfleeze can.

I never said It proved they could I am basing it off common sennse and Larfleeze's showings.

When did I state it was nothing. It still is less than all of the guardians combined.

Larfleeze negotiated with Hal and by circumstance Hal was able to be warrant his total attention. Saying Hal with the blue ring is greater than the combined threat of the guardians is ignorance at it's finest. The Guardians have never went all out against Larfleeze while in the same vicinity. They had the chance but decided against it.

Again you act as if the blue ring is just another ring that Agent Orange can absorb. That's not the case.

3.Prove his constructs can't be beaten. Prove they are unbeatable.

Want to do the battlezone? Why keep avoiding the answer?