The guardians still are above top tier though. Dd wasn't killed imo and there is no evidence to support his death other than misinterpretation. The Guardians have dealt with a weaker dd mind you but he did have a gl ring at the time.
Yes, potentially at Parallax's best but in sc corps was nowhere near the threat he once was.
The Guardians negotiate all the time. Look how long it took them to allow the gl's to use lethal force despite their ranks being decimated. They negotiated with Larfleeze then and now
Incase you missed what was said!! The Guardians DO NOT Negotiate with Terrorist.
The next scan they even admit that when they fought last time, AO depleted and almost destroyed their corps! Not only that but it also says this time NOOOOO Bargaining
Not only that!!! But they came to TAKE his RINGS, NOT NEGOTIATE!! When they arrived in his Planet, they had every INTENTION of taking his ring and lantern. How do I know? THEY SAID IT.
And you still think they went to AO to negotiate by starting a war with the Orange and Blue Light. They did it out of DESPERATION!!!
Look what he did to them when he wasn't even trying to FIGHT them!! That's even if they get past his constructs!
Heck all their attack weren't harming his weakest constructs
In time they would have. I mean come on. Do you really think the combined might of the guardian's is less than his orange constructs?
Even without the muscles he still called himself a man. There goes your argument.
He will make his way to the real one. Then it ends. His speed, etc. prove he can definitely bridge the gap.
Originally posted by xJLxKingHow are the guardians top tier in terms of power? Go ahead and present your case.
Like I said, you can debate that. The Guardians are top tier, but their power slowly are getting weaker.He destroyed the Corps once. He was could have done it 2 other times. Each time it was either Hal, or Spectre who stopped him. The guardians are full of fear that they try to hide!
Lol, they negotiated after they realized they can't stop him. For some reason you are not just comprehending it. Listen to what the guardians said in this scan.
Incase you missed what was said!! The Guardians DO NOT Negotiate with Terrorist.The next scan they even admit that when they fought last time, AO depleted and almost destroyed their corps! Not only that but it also says this time NOOOOO Bargaining
Not only that!!! But they came to TAKE his RINGS, NOT NEGOTIATE!! When they arrived in his Planet, they had every INTENTION of taking his ring and lantern. How do I know? THEY SAID IT.
And you still think they went to AO to negotiate by starting a war with the Orange and Blue Light. They did it out of DESPERATION!!!
Look what he did to them when he wasn't even trying to FIGHT them!! That's even if they get past his constructs!
Heck all their attack weren't harming his weakest constructs
Yes I DO. The constructs already killed his peers!! The controllers. Not only that but the construct easily killed a guardian in the past. They even absorbed magic+lantern blast.
That's only after the CR issue!! Not only that, but he only started calling himself a man after his amp.
AO has a huge amount of Orange Lanterns. He just need to keep Prime busy till he goes off and eat.
Yes, Hal did and once it resurfaced in sc it didn't. My point is upon it returning it hasn't been the threat it once was. It's a noteworthy villain for sure, but sinestro himself challenged the entire corps with the allies he gained along with Parallax himself. All are great enemies to the gl corps.
Yes, and we see them negotiate with Larfleeze once before and immediately after they make their way to him. Are you saying they didn't later negotiate?
Yes, Larfleeze and his power is quite formidable but it isn't greater than all of the guardians themselves. I mean come now. The Guardians allowed one to win and later negotiated with the winner.
In due time they would have. Hell,they were right in front of him and changed their minds. They are appeasers but that doesn't mean they lack the power to defeat him in direct combat.
This isn't about one guardian it's about a whole bunch of them.
Yes, and him calling himself a man was only due to the cr issues. That's it and he still did so without the amp. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Do you realize how close they are to one another? Do you? He doesn't get to fortify his defenses while Prime is off playing tic tac toe.
I'm still waiting for these 'old feats'....If Pr reads this, please remind me when did the Guardians ever even fight in the PC days? Because from the limited PC GL comics I've read, they didn't.
And per '93 onward, the Guardians have looked like absolute scrubs. So, '86-'93...that's a pretty small window. Details of these uber feats?
Yes, Hal did and once it resurfaced in sc it didn't. My point is upon it returning it hasn't been the threat it once was. It's a noteworthy villain for sure, but sinestro himself challenged the entire corps with the allies he gained along with Parallax himself. All are great enemies to the gl corps.
Yes, and we see them negotiate with Larfleeze once before and immediately after they make their way to him. Are you saying they didn't later negotiate?
Yes, Larfleeze and his power is quite formidable but it isn't greater than all of the guardians themselves. I mean come now. The Guardians allowed one to win and later negotiated with the winner.
Yes, and him calling himself a man was only due to the cr issues. That's it and he still did so without the amp. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Do you realize how close they are to one another? Do you? He doesn't get to fortify his defenses while Prime is off playing tic tac toe.
Originally posted by xJLxKingIt wasn't that easy. he may have almost done it once, but when he resurfaced he failed and with a lot of help.
They can split the planet with a though. They destroy top GL like nothing. Parallax even commented on how powerful they are.All Parallax has to do is influence someone even a guardian. The he just has to go to the central Battery and destroy it or absorb it. It's quite easy.
What the hell are you talking about. I though and even posted scans. They went to Okaara in attempt to take the lantern and defeat AO. They didn't think he was as powerful as ever. They quickly realized they were wrong. They realized that they can control him by giving him what they want. Don't you think if they were strong enough they would have stopped him and not sell out their own brother. They also realized that it's better to control him then to confront him. They couldn't stop him. It's that simply.
Seriously, do you not listen? AO already killed a guardian or two just by fighting another boar for the lantern. He can absorb all their attacks. He already defeat the controllers who are just as strong as the Guardians. I don't see what you are arguing about. AO is clearly stronger then the guardians.
You really should learn to listen.
Fortify? All his Orange Lantern will pop out the lantern the second he calls them.
No, they changed their minds right there and it wasn't worth it as they would rack up losses and someone else would have to be dealt with. You said they don't negotiate but they did just that. You won't even acknowledge why they didn't press him?
No, he cannot. If he could do so as easily as you say why didn't he? Like usual you don't understand what is being said. The I know I will be right once again while you will say you didn't see i coming. Larfleeze is the devil they know and they know what to expect from his muppet ass. Guardians exist and so does Larfleeze. Let's see how things turn out.
He was on juice. That's what the amp was it wasn't the body of a man it's the body of a man on roids. I have the body of a man but if I juiced i'd be friggin huge. Same thing here, brah.
Yes, and all Prime has to do is combat them while making his way to Larfleeze. If you read anything about Prime you'd know the guy's an absolute animal. He is going to pwn the constructs and then Larfleeze.
It wasn't that easy. he may have almost done it once, but when he resurfaced he failed and with a lot of help.
No, they changed their minds right there and it wasn't worth it as they would rack up losses and someone else would have to be dealt with. You said they don't negotiate but they did just that. You won't even acknowledge why they didn't press him?
No, he cannot. If he could do so as easily as you say why didn't he? Like usual you don't understand what is being said. The I know I will be right once again while you will say you didn't see i coming. Larfleeze is the devil they know and they know what to expect from his muppet ass. Guardians exist and so does Larfleeze. Let's see how things turn out.
He was on juice. That's what the amp was it wasn't the body of a man it's the body of a man on roids. I have the body of a man but if I juiced i'd be friggin huge. Same thing here, brah.
Yes, and all Prime has to do is combat them while making his way to Larfleeze. If you read anything about Prime you'd know the guy's an absolute animal. He is going to pwn the constructs and then Larfleeze.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I say Larfleeze but i'm pretty bais. I dislike Emo prime and want him dead. so i'm just going to say tha Larfleeze sucks the energy out of SBP like his constructs did to the GL's. I like Larfleeze, he's a neat and differnt kind of bad guy. he wins because he's cool SBP gets raped
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Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm still waiting for these 'old feats'....If Pr reads this, please remind me when did the Guardians ever even fight in the PC days? Because from the limited PC GL comics I've read, they didn't.And per '93 onward, the Guardians have looked like absolute scrubs. So, '86-'93...that's a pretty small window. Details of these uber feats?
not really a battle feat, but i remember an instance where a guardian (pre-crisis) created the green glob (stupid name), which is somewhat equal to a Miracle machine. Able to manipulate reality on a universal scale.
Originally posted by xJLxKingAgain, he was a major threat and is so today but failed miserably with a ton of help in sc.
The second time he resurfaced was in reborn. He only failed because of the Spectre & Hal's interference. Hal should have been dead, and Spectre was in Hal's body. Same goes for next time. Hal did it again. Helping Kyle who already possessed the Ion force.Lol. Let me ask you a few questions.
-Why did the Guardians a dozen other lanterns go to Okaara?
-What was their intention?
-Why did the Lanterns give AO the location of the Blue Corp and actually help start the war of the lights??
-When did the Guardians first decide to make a negotiation with Ao in their first encounter??So you are going to completely ignore all of the feat that Larfleeze already accomplish with utter ease??
- Killing guardian just by releasing his greed.
- Killing controllers.
- Absorbing all the attacks from Guardians+lanterns.
- Absorbing magic.
- His simply constructs push the guardians to a corner.
- Being a threat as huge as Parallax(we know what he is capable of)Think of the amp as a Steroid drug.
Maybe, there are 2 ways to interrupt the fight. I see it going in to different ways.
1- Prime just goes straight for him flying pass everyone and just knocking off his lantern and then he plays with AO
2- AO creates huge amount of constructs that Prime MIGHT, or might not hurt depending on the interruption of what they are. Then he just keeps his distance and defeat Prime there.
They want to use Larfleeze and let them both get something they want.
They wanted Parallax and when he was given up they let him have his own space sector. That's negotiating. Only you wouldn't know that.
I am not ignoring these feats. That doesn't put him on Prime's level sorry. Prime had a guardian so at a loss to deal with this guy one killed himself which just bfr'd him. Prime was stomping both corps at the end and he still wasn't put down until the suicide attack. Prime treats superman like a joke and laughs off blasts from Mordru and Black Adam punches. Sorry, Larfleeze is going to have to show me more to be able to take out Prime. Prime's too strong, too durable, too powerful to lose.
Yes, the steroids mean it's a temporary increase in muscles. That doesn't mean he has the body of a normal man he has the body of a man on steroids. He still referred to himself as superman without the roids.
1. Why won't Prime go for the kill? He has killed a lot of characters with a blast or two so why not attempt to do so against Larfleeze?
2.The constructs won't be able to keep a guy busy who flies through willpower like it's a gust of wind and kills thirty lanterns in moments.
Originally posted by jasofiscI like Larlfeeze as well as I think most do, but he's not cooler than Prime. Prime is the coolest thing to hit dc ever.
I say Larfleeze but i'm pretty bais. I dislike Emo prime and want him dead. so i'm just going to say tha Larfleeze sucks the energy out of SBP like his constructs did to the GL's. I like Larfleeze, he's a neat and differnt kind of bad guy. he wins because he's cool SBP gets raped
Again, he was a major threat and is so today but failed miserably with a ton of help in sc.
They want to use Larfleeze and let them both get something they want.
They wanted Parallax and when he was given up they let him have his own space sector. That's negotiating. Only you wouldn't know that.
I am not ignoring these feats. That doesn't put him on Prime's level sorry. Prime had a guardian so at a loss to deal with this guy one killed himself which just bfr'd him. Prime was stomping both corps at the end and he still wasn't put down until the suicide attack. Prime treats superman like a joke and laughs off blasts from Mordru and Black Adam punches. Sorry, Larfleeze is going to have to show me more to be able to take out Prime. Prime's too strong, too durable, too powerful to lose.
Yes, the steroids mean it's a temporary increase in muscles. That doesn't mean he has the body of a normal man he has the body of a man on steroids. He still referred to himself as superman without the roids.
1. Why won't Prime go for the kill? He has killed a lot of characters with a blast or two so why not attempt to do so against Larfleeze?
2.The constructs won't be able to keep a guy busy who flies through willpower like it's a gust of wind and kills thirty lanterns in moments.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I like Larlfeeze as well as I think most do, but he's not cooler than Prime. Prime is the coolest thing to hit dc ever.
He's whiny and can be annoying, he's supposed to be a whiny fanboy. So no he's not cool, that's like saying your cool. He's entertaining but sure as hell not cool.
Originally posted by xJLxKingClose doesn't mean anything. In sc he was just a background villain.
Failed miserably? He was close to using Kyle's full power. He was about to destroy the corps in Gl:reborn but Spectre and Hal saved everyone.So you are just going to ignore all my questions'?
What are you talking about??
You do know you are contradicting yourself in way. Prime never killed a guardian. AO EASILY killed them. Heck, he was talking on the entire corps. Prime never did. That magic that he tanked. AO would do the same. He already showed that he can absorb magic.
Steroid just speed up the process.
You mean character that can even stand their own against Prime
Larfleeze would absorb those attacks. His constructs are ghost so good luck damaging them
Your questions are irrelevant.
Did you not read the issue?
Larfleeze wasn't defeating the entire corps. The guardians were fine and I have seen another bad guardian do more damage than Larfleeze. Prime was so dangerous one killed himself just to get rid of him. Larfleeze is nowhere near the threat and the guardians feel they can manipulate him anyways it seems. Not Prime.
No, steroids make you gain muscles you never would on your own. That's what steroids do. You don't even seem like you know what they are.
I mean prime will kill him. Why won't he?
Good luck damaging Prime. Larfleeze is using energy the entire time anyways. He has savored his energy for quite some time. Prime uses his speed and crushes him in close contact.
Close doesn't mean anything. In sc he was just a background villain.
Your questions are irrelevant
Did you not read the issue?
Larfleeze wasn't defeating the entire corps. The guardians were fine and I have seen another bad guardian do more damage than Larfleeze. Prime was so dangerous one killed himself just to get rid of him. Larfleeze is nowhere near the threat and the guardians feel they can manipulate him anyways it seems. Not Prime.
No, steroids make you gain muscles you never would on your own. That's what steroids do. You don't even seem like you know what they are.
I mean prime will kill him. Why won't he?
Good luck damaging Prime. Larfleeze is using energy the entire time anyways. He has savored his energy for quite some time. Prime uses his speed and crushes him in close contact.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
What did he do so different with Hal? In SC, he already obtained the ION force, and a host. All he needed was to get to the power battery. In rebirth, he was already affecting the corps in his own way.You can ignore them because you know I am right. I think this argument is done.
Which one?
Prime is dangerous because nobody can control him. Not AM, not the Guardians and certainly not his future self. Larfleeze can be controlled by using the policy appeasement. However, it doesn't mean that Larfleeze is weaker. Also, compared to Parallax, Larfleeze can be just as dangerous.
What are you kidding me. I am on a wrestling team. My friends uses them. He still doesn't have as much muscles as me.
Of course, Prime isn't stupid.
remember, Prime has to only resort to Physical power in this matchup. His exotic powers will be absorbed, and physical attack won't to much harm to the the contructs. They are Ghosts after all. They also flicker in and out.
As much as I hate to agree with Quanchi ( 😄 ) what could Larfleezes constructs really do to SMP?
He'd roll through them all and wind up facing Larfleeze head-on.
