What if the Empire invaded the FOTJ era galaxy

Started by One Free Man18 pages

Edit: this is directed towards hewhoknowswhatsemenlookslikedrippingfromanakedman'sbuthole.

No, because he was able to very quickly transfer from clone to clone after that you dumb****.

edit:

In the end, Skywalker was too enmeshed in the dark side to successfully rebel against his new master, despite marching into the cloning lab and smashing all of Palpatine's cloning tanks. Before he could finish the job, Palpatine transferred his spirit into one of the last clones.

Stop being an ass.

Me?

He's still right, Palpatine was very fast in resurrecting in DE.

edit: Yeah, you.

Yes.

And go to Six Flags.

😐

Edit: Fvcking British ho.

Never. Accept me for who I am.

Edit: Six flags rules.

And british hos won't give you stds.

... srsly?

Originally posted by Nephthys
If you'd have actually have read the link I posted or shown a modicum of effort you'd know that there were various complications with his resurrection. He first had to actually get to Droga (which he did within at most a few months), who was insane and stranded on Kaal at the time, then he was further stalled by Sate Pestage fathing around trying to be Emperor, then he had to wait for the git to haul ass over to him and get him into a clone body and by that time things had gone to shit and he was content to just watch the Warlords beat each other senseless as he grew and made his move. He made no moves to return for 6ish years and it should be noted that at no point did he consider the Rebellion a serious threat, as he would the FOTJ, which is why he made no serious attempts at power. Not that that has any application on the thread as the FOTJ is a threat, he'll resurrect much faster and its likely that in a war-time situation he'd actually mention to some people what'll happen if he cops it.

Sources:
* "From the Files of Corellia Antilles"—Star Wars Adventure Journal 14
* "The Emperor's Pawns"—Star Wars Gamer 5
* The Dark Forces Saga, Part 1 on Wizards.com (original article link, backup links 1 2 on Archive.org, 1 2 on Google cache)
* The Dark Forces Saga, Part 4 on Wizards.com (original article link, backup links 1 2 on Archive.org, 1 2 on Google cache)
* "The History of the Mandalorians"—Star Wars Insider 80
* Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force
* The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
* Dark Empire Sourcebook

No kindly admit defeat, like you said you do, despite the fact that I've never, ever, ever seen you do so. Or Fvck off.

So about how long would it take for Sidious to resurrect in this scenario?

Originally posted by Eminence
... srsly?
srsly.... Have you ever met a british ho you would sleep with?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
So about how long would it take for Sidious to resurrect in this scenario?
A short enough time so that he could do it before Luke could run into his clone room and smash all his clone canisters. Considering Luke could use force speed, that's damn fast.

Did you even read the comic?

About a day at maximum. Judging from DE about 5 minutes or something realistically.

edit: Though if what OFM says is true and I suspect it is, then much, much faster than that.

srsly.... Have you ever met a british ho you would sleep with?

Well.... I'm british... tee hee.

But what about those complications that Sidious ran into? This time Sidious probably won't wait, but the other complications would still apply.

Nephthys: you have made a pretty convincing argument though. More convincing than Gideon's.

No they won't, those were based off of specific circumstances and how one man reacted in a certain way to Palpatines death. You're grasping a straws, give up.

HWKA, you don't even have to say you are flat-out WRONG, you just need to acknowledge that what you say is your opinion. You have nothing to back it up: Its speculation. There is no guarantee that Luke would try that.

That's all you need to admit.

Oh, and after reading Gideon's post quoted by DE, i actually think he made a VERY convincing argument, with the one exception of the defectment of the factions: I would assume that is not allowed in a faction's versus thread because it kinda the point. However, it does make sense that Daala would defect to him, at the very least. She simply would have no choice, and she talks a lot about how much she misses the order from the empouror.

His point of "What if Sidious wasn't THERE" trumped everything. You can't assume a galactic war would come down to Sidious always being there.

Originally posted by truejedi
HWKA, you don't even have to say you are flat-out WRONG, you just need to acknowledge that what you say is your opinion. You have nothing to back it up: Its speculation. There is no guarantee that Luke would try that.

That's all you need to admit.

Hmmm...well, I'll admit that Nephthys has made a convincing argument; I think I'll think about it some more. Gideon's argument though wasn't that convincing to me.

Oh, and after reading Gideon's post quoted by DE, i actually think he made a VERY convincing argument, with the one exception of the defectment of the factions: I would assume that is not allowed in a faction's versus thread because it kinda the point. However, it does make sense that Daala would defect to him, at the very least. She simply would have no choice, and she talks a lot about how much she misses the order from the empouror.

His point of "What if Sidious wasn't THERE" trumped everything. You can't assume a galactic war would come down to Sidious always being there.

Daala in FOTJ admits indirectly (but pretty obviously) through her thoughts, words and actions that Sidious and Tarkin were evil people. And even if she did, the Senate and the People wouldn't let Daala side with Sidious.

I don't understand your second paragraph's argument.

The only way your scenario would work, HWKA, and please note that without a single one of these the whole thing collapses, is if:

1) Luke and co somehow manage to track down the Emperor via their intelligence network, even though they don't have nearly the skills to match the Empire or the Emperor on that front. Also, they're fighting a war while doing this.
2) He doesn't move, catch wind of them or do anything on his end.
3) They manage to get close to him without any hiccups. They have to be perfect. Note that they'd have to be being a LOT more competant than they usually are, power-wise and intellectually.
4) They assassinate him. They have to be perfect.
5) They get away. They have to be perfect.
6) Palpatine, out of his numerous corps. of dark jedi clones etc, for some reason chooses Droga again to house his spirit.
7) Droga, feeling Palps death goes insane and slaughters his crew.
8) Droga just happens to be aboad a ship at this time, he just happens to be on a planet, he just happens to accidentally smash the bridge controls, he just happens to crash the ship, the ship just happens to not be spaceworthy or have any communications etc afterwards, or other ships or escape pods they could escape in.
9) Prestage ****s around instead of looking for Palpatine. Make up a reason.
10) Palpatine, in the midst of a war, fully knowing about the threat of opposing Force users did not give any instructions of what to expect if he succuums to the very real threat of assassination.
11) The Empire splits.

So basically if God or George Lucas made it happen. 😬

edit: You may think I'm just being facescious or whatever but really, without any one of those unbelievably contrived circumstances your plot fails. So you can understand why I'm really not even going to award them a point for it:

9.5/10 Empire wins. The 0.5 is for if something just rediculous happens.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The only way your scenario would work, HWKA, and please note that without a single one of these the whole thing collapses, is if:

1) Luke and co somehow manage to track down the Emperor via their intelligence network, even though they don't have nearly the skills to match the Empire or the Emperor on that front. Also, they're fighting a war while doing this.
2) He doesn't move, catch wind of them or do anything on his end.
3) They manage to get close to him without any hiccups. They have to be perfect. Note that they'd have to be being a LOT more competant than they usually are, power-wise and intellectually.
4) They assassinate him. They have to be perfect.
5) They get away. They have to be perfect.
6) Palpatine, out of his numerous corps. of dark jedi clones etc, for some reason chooses Droga again to house his spirit.
7) Droga, feeling Palps death goes insane and slaughters his crew.
8) Droga just happens to be aboad a ship at this time, he just happens to be on a planet, he just happens to accidentally smash the bridge controls, he just happens to crash the ship, the ship just happens to not be spaceworthy or have any communications etc afterwards, or other ships or escape pods they could escape in.
9) Prestage ****s around instead of looking for Palpatine. Make up a reason.
10) Palpatine, in the midst of a war, fully knowing about the threat of opposing Force users did not give any instructions of what to expect if he succuums to the very real threat of assassination.
11) The Empire splits.

So basically if God or George Lucas [b]made it happen. 😬

edit: You may think I'm just being facescious or whatever but really, without any one of those unbelievably contrived circumstances your plot fails. So you can understand why I'm really not even going to award them a point for it:

9.5/10 Empire wins. The 0.5 is for if something just rediculous happens. [/B]

1 to 5 shouldn't be that difficult for Luke and the NJO Council.

6 to 11 already happened - remember that this is the ROTJ Empire vs FOTJ (FOTJ not ROTJ) Galaxy, so Sidious doesn't have knowledge of how his invasion fared because ala ROTJ it hadn't happened yet.

As I said, specific circumstances and luck played waaaay to big a favour for that to be an acceptable forum win.

Like how palps only went to Droga cuz he was closest, good luck replicating that.

TJ
HWKA, you don't even have to say you are flat-out WRONG, you just need to acknowledge that what you say is your opinion. You have nothing to back it up: Its speculation. There is no guarantee that Luke would try that.

That's all you need to admit.

Oh, and after reading Gideon's post quoted by DE, i actually think he made a VERY convincing argument, with the one exception of the defectment of the factions: I would assume that is not allowed in a faction's versus thread because it kinda the point. However, it does make sense that Daala would defect to him, at the very least. She simply would have no choice, and she talks a lot about how much she misses the order from the empouror.

His point of "What if Sidious wasn't THERE" trumped everything. You can't assume a galactic war would come down to Sidious always being there.

HWKN has made repeated poorretarded attempts to manufacture a victory for his preferred faction on the basis of unlikely circumstances. In order for victory to be achieved for the rest of the galaxy, a long series of very refined what-ifs have to occur. You said it best yourself: Boba Fett is an expert marksman and, under certain circumstances, he'd be able to put a blaster bolt between the eyes of Luke or the Emperor, but that doesn't mean it's likely.

He's been devastated and made a fool of. The only thing that keeps him going is a fragile ego. Not only is he inept, but he's a hypocrite. I have absolutely zero respect for him as a person or as a debater.

Gideon's argument though wasn't that convincing to me.[...]I don't understand your second paragraph's argument. [/B]
It's because stupid people have problems with big words. >.<