Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
He wouldn't have to. He would only need to use Inspire Hate.
Not sure that would work. According to what I remember Obsidian Fury saying, they have the intelligence of supercomputers. They are pretty adept thinkers. I think they would shake Inspire Hate of pretty swiftly.
Besides, no one Spartan can take any other out with ease. They can take more beating than they can give out.
its a spell not a psychic attack, not to mension Kain does not have to hit their armour, just rip out their souls or freeze them in time, I dont think Kain actually has to kill his opponent to win this, since it is still a defeat.
And hows all their gadgets agains lightning? will they short circuit?
but as A.I said, inspire hate will do. Having a clever or fast thinking mind does not mean you can defend yourself from a psychic or indeed a spell if the spell could be defended against by anything other than a magical resistance, its just illogical.
Originally posted by Burning thought
its a spell not a psychic attack, not to mension Kain does not have to hit their armour, just rip out their souls or freeze them in time, I dont think Kain actually has to kill his opponent to win this, since it is still a defeat.
Spell or not, it is attacking their psyche. A psyche that is far beyond that of mortal men. And would Kain really have to waste his two soul taps on the Spartans? He only has two, and I think there are seven Red Team Spartans.
Originally posted by Burning thought
its a spell not a psychic attack, not to mension Kain does not have to hit their armour, just rip out their souls or freeze them in time, I dont think Kain actually has to kill his opponent to win this, since it is still a defeat.And hows all their gadgets agains lightning? will they short circuit?
but as A.I said , inspire hate will do. Having a clever or fast thinking mind does not mean you can defend yourself from a psychic or indeed a spell if the spell could be defended against by anything other than a magical resistance, its just illogical.
Oh goddamn it. Anyway, I thought that time spells were disallowed in this match.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Spell or not, it is attacking their psyche. A psyche that is far beyond that of mortal men. And would Kain really have to waste his two soul taps on the Spartans? He only has two, and I think there are seven Red Team Spartans.
Far beyond? their mind is faster perhaps but that does not make them any more able to resist Kain getting into their minds, nor would it be able to suppress a sudden maddness and anger to attack their allies, have they show nto be able to do this? and its not attacking their psyke, its arranging it diffrently so they see their allies as their enemies.
Samus is perhaps the only obvious one Kain may need a soul steal for.
Also what is the durability of a Spartan? heat resistance, as I brought up earlier, lightning.
Kain is not going to be able to be hit by 1,2, prob not 3, 6 and Samus may be able ot hit him, I dont know much of her or her speed.
Originally posted by Burning thought
its a spell not a psychic attack, not to mension Kain does not have to hit their armour, just rip out their souls or freeze them in time, I dont think Kain actually has to kill his opponent to win this, since it is still a defeat.And hows all their gadgets agains lightning? will they short circuit?
but as A.I said, inspire hate will do. Having a clever or fast thinking mind does not mean you can defend yourself from a psychic or indeed a spell if the spell could be defended against by anything other than a magical resistance, its just illogical.
kain has only 2 soul steals and no time powers.
I don't also see him getting by Trance Kuja... or to for that matter & spartan's suits are built for heat resistance also, they take plasma shots often & an auto-temp adjustment was added into the suit.
Kuja is weak, what feats do plasma shots have? auto-temp ajustement sounds just like a device to keep the wearer cool at all times, nothing to do with a protection against attacks.
kain has inumerable things to hit the spartans with, if one does not work another likely will. Either that or they die of old age 🙂
This makes me laugh. Kain can't damage the Spartans.
As for the mind things, Kain would have to be more intelligent with a more powerful mind to affect a Spartan's at all.
Mist doesn't help Kain at all either, since I've no doubt Spartans are faster in every way than Kain and he has to come out of mist to attack. I doubt any form of serious control over it as well.
the first group has a minimum of 3 spartans. so soul stealing is out of the question to advance. 2nd group was a gimme fight kain should stomp. 3rd is more interesting tidus is untrained, squall was trained to be a mercenary and zidane was built to become better than kuja. 4th fight could be a simple "soul steal" otherwise its a tough one. the 5th should be the 6th. and trance kuja is just an added toss up fight depending on who can argue better.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This makes me laugh. Kain can't damage the Spartans.As for the mind things, Kain would have to be more intelligent with a more powerful mind to affect a Spartan's at all.
Mist doesn't help Kain at all either, since I've no doubt Spartans are faster in every way than Kain and he has to come out of mist to attack. I doubt any form of serious control over it as well.
Makes no logical sense troll, much like any and all of your arguments. Especially since this is a spell, not Kains mind were talking about so the effect is not debatable, I know full well the Spartans do not have magical resistance and I doubt they even have defences agianst psychic.
The Spartans will be miles away from Kain before they can even realise whats going on combined with teleport and mist, they will not know whats hit em before he inspires hate then constantly hits them with lightning storms, energy blasts, maybe he will go dimentional and slash them all quickly beheading them, their not made of adamantium.
The only really tough fight in this match is Samus, the only impossible fight for Kain is probably Mewtwo, tbh I dont know enough on him, I could probably find a weakness or two if someone showed me evidence but I know hes fairly quick and has some amazing TK.
lol Pokemon dont kill people do they? maybe he will class Kain as a person and not kill him. Thing is ive heard M2 has a super computer speed brain but has he used his stronger forms of TK insanely fast? the only knowledge on him I have is a poor memory of the Pokemon movie, why did he throw little orbs of power at Mew if he could toss him about with an actual TK?
Mewtwo killed those scientist in the beggining of the movie, then later him & mew petrified ash I guess and all the pokemon cried except him and that heartless mew.
All I know is mewtwo was created from mew who supposedly has DNA of all pokemon. I guess they were equal, though I think they were building mewtwo to be better.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Makes no logical sense troll, much like any and all of your arguments. Especially since this is a spell, not Kains mind were talking about so the effect is not debatable, I know full well the Spartans do not have magical resistance and I doubt they even have defences agianst psychic.The Spartans will be miles away from Kain before they can even realise whats going on combined with teleport and mist, they will not know whats hit em before he inspires hate then constantly hits them with lightning storms, energy blasts, maybe he will go dimentional and slash them all quickly beheading them, their not made of adamantium.
The only really tough fight in this match is Samus, the only impossible fight for Kain is probably Mewtwo, tbh I dont know enough on him, I could probably find a weakness or two if someone showed me evidence but I know hes fairly quick and has some amazing TK.
Yeah, real logic never makes much sense to you does it? You stopped saying childish all the time now, should I start a troll accusation count instead?
Has Kain ever used that spell to take over someone with a more powerful mind than his own? Hell, has he used that at all?
Mist and Teleporting make me laugh. Mist dash isn't fast at all, and teleportation will not help him do any real physical damage. I'm sure Spartans can react fast enough to dodge him anyway.
Your MewTwo argument is fail. Pokemon only don't kill because its a kids show. They are perfectly capable of killing their opponents, except maybe for other Pokemon.
MewTwo mindwipes Kain. Kain won't overpower MewTwo in that department either.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah, real logic never makes much sense to you does it? You stopped saying childish all the time now, should I start a troll accusation count instead?Has Kain ever used that spell to take over someone with a more powerful mind than his own? Hell, has he used that at all?
Mist and Teleporting make me laugh. Mist dash isn't fast at all, and teleportation will not help him do any real physical damage. I'm sure Spartans can react fast enough to dodge him anyway.
Your MewTwo argument is fail. Pokemon only don't kill because its a kids show. They are perfectly capable of killing their opponents, except maybe for other Pokemon.
MewTwo mindwipes Kain. Kain won't overpower MewTwo in that department either.
Ofcourse it does, problem is a childish mind like yours could never comprehend.
Does not even make sense, theres no "power" in the Spartans mind, simply more intelligent or faster maybe than a typical humans but its nothing to do with commandering a mind like Kain can, thus their screwed.
while in mist kain will just fly and be immune to any and all weapons they may try and use, teleport will not do damage, no youve grasped that perhaps, but all his other powers from range will, the Spartans would never be able to retaliate.
Ill use your argument against you, when has M2 wiped a mind as advanced as Kains?