Kain runs a Gauntlet

Originally posted by Burning thought
Complain as much as you want, I disagree as does the fiction, your sad little dislike of me/Kain has no baring on that.

Look ime sorry but the chip only helps, it does not think for the people, if it does go and find me a source and stop making statements.

No theres a huge diffrence, strike is obvious, translation has a huge number of meanings and is not clear in the first place, your trying to reach wheras ime using what the defintion actually says and what makes logical sense besides.

Obviously not because I had to post it. Its still evidence for something, the first piece in the thread.

Once again, I dont care about your narrow little argumentless statements on the video, its evidence, you were proven wrong, and now done so again. Also weakest possible thing I could find? its the only thing I can find.....infact its the most impressive thing ive seen him do in the space of time that he has before Kain impales him.

No, Kain has a vast number of powerful and unique abilities of high variety, most of which people cant debate past which means he can win a lot of fights on base value, that combiend with my persistance and the amount of evidence I cn provide is no wonder why the majority hate me/kain and whimper and spam/troll me constantly.

Not if their beating on eachother and hes too fast for Spartans ,teleport remember....Also its in the same link as Inspire hate.

Complaining that is not. There were no real feats in there.

I didn't say it thinks for them. It translates their thoughts, which as I have said using your own tactic doesn't do what you would like to think it does.

Yes though. Strike is obvious, they have to be hit with the blade to have a soul stolen.

That is still special attack in the Pokeverse, much different there than physical attacks. Basic knowledge, everyone seems to have realized but you.

Proven wrong, and you say I have fantasies. That video does not help your case.

I've yet to see a Kain argument people haven't defeated. Hell, I've beaten the Mist form which could have been beaten even before that.

I think I'm the only one that cares enough to troll you. But your persistence is not a real gift, it just means we have situations like this where people keep telling you that you're wrong and you refuse to accept it.

They can beat on each other all they want, it won't do anything. And if Kain gets close enough, they will attack him. He won't teleport fast enough to dodge bullets either. Sorry.

Come on BT, I know you can do this. Where are the Blood Shower statements?

I totally called you preying on the distance of the fall too. But that doesn't matter, since he still took reentry. Afterwards he fell for 2KM with the same speed of the ship he came down with, as well as tanking the heat of the ship during reentry.

it was earth and yea I remember the opening well now... 2km then I don't know what happened with the planet or if the unsc marine failed at math & science.

hmm... pretty nice sword

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Complaining that is not. There were no real feats in there.

I didn't say it thinks for them. It translates their thoughts, which as I have said using your own tactic doesn't do what you would like to think it does.

Yes though. Strike is obvious, they have to be hit with the blade to have a soul stolen.

That is still special attack in the Pokeverse, much different there than physical attacks. Basic knowledge, everyone seems to have realized but you.

Proven wrong, and you say I have fantasies. That video does not help your case.

I've yet to see a Kain argument people haven't defeated. Hell, I've beaten the Mist form which could have been beaten even before that.

I think I'm the only one that cares enough to troll you. But your persistence is not a real gift, it just means we have situations like this where people keep telling you that you're wrong and you refuse to accept it.

They can beat on each other all they want, it won't do anything. And if Kain gets close enough, they will attack him. He won't teleport fast enough to dodge bullets either. Sorry.

Baseless statement, your powers of perception<mine as shown in the evil pig thread.

You do realise your not actually getting this from an offical quote, your taking what I stated and poorly attempting to use my own use of words against me to find an ambigious and vague reference ot it helping the Spartans against a magical source or mind powers which it has never done or been hinted to do.

ofcourse, hes not going to be able to hit them from 10 feet away with it....

lol yes you were proven wrong, you stated I had no evidence until my link to Dark chronicle and I outlined 2/3 pieces of evidence.....

As if bullets can harm someone who can survive an impact of 30+ tonnes of sharp claws that can carv into stone and possibly metal with ease without damage, not to mention the mist....and their still fighting eachother, him coming close and doing that spell leaves them destroyed, he can drain blood from them normally if he doesnt want to use a spell for the sake of lulz which he does with a gesture, pick them off....

Also before you post again, look at the posts between me and Spadeking, their not rants, their not spams of random information, in this thread and the other one were making civalised and fair arguments without squabling, try and post more like he does for bonus respect to your respect gauge, then you may level up and distribute points to your stats and gain new abilities.

Out of curiosity, BT, what is the blade length for whatever weapon Kain would be using here?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Baseless statement, your powers of perception<mine as shown in the evil pig thread.

You do realise your not actually getting this from an offical quote, your taking [b]what I stated and poorly attempting to use my own use of words against me to find an ambigious and vague reference ot it helping the Spartans against a magical source or mind powers which it has never done or been hinted to do.

ofcourse, hes not going to be able to hit them from 10 feet away with it....

lol yes you were proven wrong, you stated I had no evidence until my link to Dark chronicle and I outlined 2/3 pieces of evidence.....

As if bullets can harm someone who can survive an impact of 30+ tonnes of sharp claws that can carv into stone and possibly metal with ease without damage, not to mention the mist....and their still fighting eachother, him coming close and doing that spell leaves them destroyed, he can drain blood from them normally if he doesnt want to use a spell for the sake of lulz which he does with a gesture, pick them off....

Also before you post again, look at the posts between me and Spadeking, their not rants, their not spams of random information, in this thread and the other one were making civalised and fair arguments without squabling, try and post more like he does for bonus respect to your respect gauge, then you may level up and distribute points to your stats and gain new abilities. [/B]

I've seen the videos. It's teleportation, slow mist dash, and minor TK.

I'm taking it from what Shaggs said.

They're still fully armed with Plasma grenades, Plama pistols, weapons like the Needler and more.

You showed basic knowledge and a video of the weakest possible MewTwo.

No.

prob about 5ft+, its nearly as long as he is tall. concerning the feat of going effortlessly through an object without resistence, I cant imagine the curved serrated design of the sword helps for thrusts.

Originally posted by Burning thought
This is all good and well, talking about training and what they have learnt but what use is this when Kain induces madness magically? they have no resistance to madness or magic in general so instantly your entire argument goes up in smoke because they wont be thinking about what their suit says or what their trainign says, theyll be in a fit of maddened blind rage.

[b]OR

Not thinking of any of their training at all, since Kains mind is theirs and tells them to beat on eachother and ignore their suits systems.

Regardless of what you think, theres nothing the spartans can do to stop Kain, he can make range between them thats vast and can turn to mist to survive attacks, going in and outside of mists and teleportation will screw the Spartans over and thats if hes not using his mental powers or blood drain.[/B]

You do realize that the best way to bring someone out of madness is to show them something they are familiar with? Spartans consider their suit to be a second skin. They say many times in the books that they feel naked without the suit on, and feel vulnerable without their Heads Up Displays. You don't seem to realize that they are 100% bonded with their suits. It's like it's part of them(almost is).

Your mist argument can only go so far. He may not be able to be harmed in mist, but mist eventually goes away. He's only got so much time to sit there and formulate a plan against three super soldiers who move, think, and react faster than he does.

What I say about that Spartans is not what I think. Just because you haven't read up on them like I have, doesn't mean you could discredit what I say. Just like you know plenty more about Kain than I do.

Besides, Kain can only target one Spartan at a time, and to control him, he leaves himself vulnerable. Common logic points out that the one maddened Spartan would only be able to hold up one other Spartan, leaving Kain open to the third. He either has to let the other Spartan get close, which will not take long at all, or release the Spartan from madness. Also, Kain has no way of knowing the full extent of the suit, and would most likely overdo everything he tries to make the Spartan do.

Here's why I know Kain couldn't manipulate their minds. Their brainpower is on par with most supercomputer's and were tempered for years to be able to withstand the overwhelming addition of an entire other mind into their own, a.k.a., an A.I. I would also like to point out that the MJOLNIR armor is controlled from thought, not by action. They think it, it happens. Tell me that isn't a very capable mind.

Besides, they've said that if a Spartan goes rampant and starts to kill friendlies, the suit shuts down until the person's stats return to normal. Which, in the case of a Spartan, are very quickly. But then again, Kain couldn't take over their minds.

Originally posted by Shaggs
You do realize that the best way to bring someone out of madness is to show them something they are familiar with? Spartans consider their suit to be a second skin. They say many times in the books that they feel naked without the suit on, and feel vulnerable without their Heads Up Displays. You don't seem to realize that they are 100% bonded with their suits. It's like it's part of them(almost is).

Your mist argument can only go so far. He may not be able to be harmed in mist, but mist eventually goes away. He's only got so much time to sit there and formulate a plan against three super soldiers who move, think, and react faster than he does.

What I say about that Spartans is not what I think. Just because you haven't read up on them like I have, doesn't mean you could discredit what I say. Just like you know plenty more about Kain than I do.

Besides, Kain can only target one Spartan at a time, and to control him, he leaves himself vulnerable. Common logic points out that the one maddened Spartan would only be able to hold up one other Spartan, leaving Kain open to the third. He either has to let the other Spartan get close, which will not take long at all, or release the Spartan from madness. Also, Kain has no way of knowing the full extent of the suit, and would most likely overdo everything he tries to make the Spartan do.

Here's why I know Kain couldn't manipulate their minds. Their brainpower is on par with most supercomputer's and were tempered for years to be able to withstand the overwhelming addition of an entire other mind into their own, a.k.a., an A.I. I would also like to point out that the MJOLNIR armor is controlled from thought, not by action. They think it, it happens. Tell me that isn't a very capable mind.

Besides, they've said that if a Spartan goes rampant and starts to kill friendlies, the suit shuts down until the person's stats return to normal. Which, in the case of a Spartan, are very quickly. But then again, Kain [b]couldn't take over their minds. [/B]

I doubt the reasurance of being in their suit will be enough to stop a magical attack that turns them into a blood thirsty frenzy.....

Move? maybe physically but one teleport and he has great distance, make it several and he could have a vast distance between them where he could hit them with spells, blasts etc, forutnaltey for them hes not at full power in this gauntlet but at long range he has a long time to formulate plans, as much time to cast as many spells he wants etc

You said their training would help them defeat Kains spell did you not? or that it would help them ignore his powers yet I replied by saying Kains mind control would mean they would be looking at thinking of what Kain wants them to think, I meant no disrespect on your knowledge of Halo.

possibly, thats debatable, when were talking about mind control Marcus whos powers Kain stole to gain mind control powers was able to control small armies, the only thing that contradicts this idea is gameplay, which could indeed be a gameplay mechanic. Also inspire hate effects all in an area, so the Spartans would have to have this speciifc move in mind and spread far away from eachother to counter it, which ofcourse gives Kain greater ease of picking them off his with his singel target mind control.

Its a very capable mind but to defend against a psychic you would have to be able to counter their very element, if someone can overpower your mind in one spell or one ability then even if they knew what Kain was going to do at every moment, how would they prepare? Kain himself has shown passive mind resistence, how I dont know but we cannot ofcourse assume the Spartans have the same simply because they have a faster brain or are capable of more intellect, remember this is the weakest Kain I am talkign about, and the least wise who effortlessly stopped a psychic who can control small armies.

This would only work in Kains favour wouldnt it, if he was making Spartans do things they shouldnt do through magical means OR mind power directly then he not only disrrupts them for a moment, but the suit then shuts down, knocking the spartan out of the fight for a duration....perfect for Kain to attack with his other weapons, sword or blood manipulation/spells.

hes not getting past zidane. sure as hell isnt gonna do anything to kuja.