Mickey the Pikey versus John McClane...
Mickey the Pikey from "Snatch" and John McClane are locked in a steel cage and forced to duke it out to the end. Victory can be achieved either by killing their opponent, or by KO. There are no weapons in the ring.
McClane may employ any style he wants. He may box, kick, grab, headlock, bite, whatever it takes.
Mickey can use only bareknuckle boxing skills. However, if McClane gets ahold of him, Mickey may escap the hold/grapple by any means.
Well then Mickey goes down.
Its the knockout puncher vs the man who cant be knocked out and tends to beat everyone. And Judging by the events of Snatch, McClane has better luck than Mickey. (Who CAN be knocked out) 😛
No one ever burned McClane's mum in a caravan arson incident. Fact.
I do think that he could take Riggs though.
Especially from Rigg's dismal, dismal display of boxing prowess.
And they burned down Riggs caravan too.
McClane has luck when there are objects around to utilize as weapons. Lighter, SUV, Crown Vic, none of that here. That's why I said he can fight however he wants. Mac tries to grapple Mickey, Mickey is gonna throw an elbow or whatever and evade.
Cant see him KOing Mickey. You gotta remember that last fight in Snatch, Mickey endured a beating that far supercedes anything McClane took. And he still one punch KO'd that guy.
McClane never fought anyone capable of KOing him, Mickey is very capable of this.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's like a feat or a power, like Superman's invulnerability, Hulk's increasing strength, Wolverine's healing factor etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Originally posted by RobtardPunchers chance? Rob, Mickey KO'd guys left and right with one punch, put mother****ers in the damn hospital with one punch. He one punch KO'd a guy while wearing big ass boxing gloves, man.
Nonsense, just about everyone has a 'punchers chance', though some of the guys McClane fought where diehard (*hits snare drum*) ass-beaters, Colonel Travis, as an example.
BTW, Mac had his ass handed to him by the Colonel 😉
Mac will never get inside Mickey's jab, first time he tries, BAM he is kissing canvas.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Punchers chance? Rob, Mickey KO'd guys left and right with one punch, put mother****ers in the damn hospital with one punch. He one punch KO'd a guy while wearing big ass boxing gloves, man.BTW, Mac had his ass handed to him by the Colonel 😉
Mac will never get inside Mickey's jab, first time he tries, BAM he is kissing canvas.
I didn't say that Mickey only has a punchers chance. So I'm going to ignore that.
McClane did beat down by Travis(and many others), but he didn't get knocked out, which is the point here. Cuz by all accounts, McClane is un-KO-able. Micky's magic one-punch is negated by McClane's time-tested chin.
Originally posted by Robtard
I didn't say that Mickey only has a punchers chance. So I'm going to ignore that.McClane did beat down by Travis(and many others), but he didn't get knocked out, which is the point here. Cuz by all accounts, McClane is un-KO-able. Micky's magic one-punch is negated by McClane's time-tested chin.
And let's not start with who can take more of a beating, the Pikey has McClane beat here, light years ahead. If McClane's chin is made of rock, then Mickeys is made of adamantium. Figuratively speaking of course. And if McClane is UnKOable, then Mickey is UnKOable, even more so than McClane. (No one is UnKOable, BTW.)
So, Mickey punches faster, harder, and can take far more of a beating than McClane. Plus he IS a bareknuckle boxing champion.
My error, meant 'Travis beat down McClane'. As McClane has been beaten down many a time, never out though.
McClane has taken far greater beatings than Micky, he has four movies full of beatings, will Micky has one boxing match. /end fact.
So McClane has over Micky: Durability (in spades), endurance/stamina, plus an unbeatable chin.
Rob, no one has an unbeatable chin. It's not like someone absolutely cannot be KO'd, it's just not possible. Everyone has a point where their head says "Oh **** it" and they are out.
Mickey took how many rounds of getting his ass beat at the end of Snatch? 10? 12? 15? THAT'S endurance. He took bare fists to his face, to his body, elbows and shit, all from a guy twice his size. There's proof of Mickeys edge in endurance.
Stamina? He was able to get up and KO the same guy after umpteen rounds of having his ass beat, there's the stamina.
McClane gets his ass beat for a few minutes at a time, while Mickey gets his ass beat round after round after round after round after round.
Think about it this way. Mickey had to hold back that last fight, take the epic beating, and take a dive. In the end he won, KOing the guy. You seriously think McClane, put in Mickeys shoes, would have been able to do the same? Objectivity, please.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
McClane has luck when there are objects around to utilize as weapons. Lighter, SUV, Crown Vic, none of that here. That's why I said he can fight however he wants. Mac tries to grapple Mickey, Mickey is gonna throw an elbow or whatever and evade.
Nonsense he is just lucky when it is lucky to be lucky.
It matters not, the form of the situation.
Cant see him KOing Mickey. You gotta remember that last fight in Snatch, Mickey endured a beating that far supercedes anything McClane took. And he still one punch KO'd that guy.
He might break Mickeys neck.
McClane never fought anyone capable of KOing him, Mickey is very capable of this.
Circular argument at best,
pure unbacked up wild speculation at worst.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then Id suggest jumping in a time machine and heading back to 1985, and punching Mike Tyson in the jaw.Give it your hardest shot.
Twice even.
Then scream as he destoys you and makes you his rape lady.
Doesn't need the time machine, Tyson of 2009 would still do the same to him, as Foreman proved, 'power is the last thing a boxer loses'.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then Id suggest jumping in a time machine and heading back to 1985, and punching Mike Tyson in the jaw.Give it your hardest shot.
Twice even.
Then scream as he destoys you and makes you his rape lady.
You were saying?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nonsense he is just lucky when it is lucky to be lucky.
It matters not, the form of the situation.He might break Mickeys neck.
Circular argument at best,
pure unbacked up wild speculation at worst.
Speculation? I know you have seen this fight:
If you think McClane could do what Mickey did here, then your McClane fanboyism has reach unprecedented levels.
I was saying 1985 tyson. 🙂
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd...?
He was f***ed up on meds and Robin Givens and her ma/legal matters/being screwed by Don King. (Not saying btw that Douglas didnt use great tactics though, but Tyson has him in trouble a few times with nothing, by Tyson standards.
If he fought 1985 Tyson, Tyson'dve had eaten him.
BTW are you saying that your punch equals Douglas'..?
Stop strawmanning, please.
McClane doesnt have to do what Mickey does.