Mickey the Pikey versus John McClane...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I was saying 1985 tyson. 🙂

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He was f***ed up on meds and Robin Givens and her ma/legal matters/being screwed by Don King. (Not saying btw that Douglas didnt use great tactics though, but Tyson has him in trouble a few times with nothing, by Tyson standards.
If he fought 1985 Tyson, Tyson'dve had eaten him.

BTW are you saying that your punch equals Douglas'..?

Stop strawmanning, please.
McClane doesnt have to do what Mickey does.

McClane CAN'T do what Mickey does, thats the point, he is way out of his league fighting a bareknuckle boxing champion. Lets face it, straight up h2h fighting, with nothing around to use as weapons, that aint Mac's forte. Mickeys jab will keep McClane from getting too close to do any grappling/neck breaking, first time Mac tries to rush in, Mickey KO's him. Cuz thats like what he does, he KO's mother****ers with one punch. McClane is gonna try his dirty fight tactics and will pay the price.

BTW, yeah, Buster was totally up for that fight, his jab pwned Tyson's eye.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes, I am saying that my punch is that of the former heavyweight champion of the world. 🙄 I was just showing that anyone can be KO'd, no one is immune to it.

McClane CAN'T do what Mickey does, thats the point, he is way out of his league fighting a bareknuckle boxing champion. Lets face it, straight up h2h fighting, with nothing around to use as weapons, that aint Mac's forte. Mickeys jab will keep McClane from getting too close to do any grappling/neck breaking, first time Mac tries to rush in, Mickey KO's him. Cuz thats like what he does, he KO's mother****ers with one punch. McClane is gonna try his dirty fight tactics and will pay the price.

McClane will feint like he's punching, fall on his back, and plant his kneel right into Mickey's knee, bringing the brawler down in screaming agony. Dirty tactics, sure; this is what McClane employs.

He'll then proceed to bash Mickey's head into the steel cage, until blood comes out his Pikey ears. /the end

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane will feint like he's punching, fall on his back, and plant his kneel right into Mickey's knee, bringing the brawler down in screaming agony. Dirty tactics, sure; this is what McClane employs.

He'll then proceed to bash Mickey's head into the steel cage, until blood comes out his Pikey ears. /the end

Wow, you got it all scripted out 🙄

McClane will face him, go punch for punch with him, and go down quicker than a drunken cheerleader at the prom. When has McClane ever feinted, fallen on his back, and do the Daredevil knee kick thing?

Mickey will see McClane go down and back off, well out of reach of any knee kick. Get real, man.

Hey, you script shit out all the time, sir.

You mean, when has McClane used non-boxing tactics/rules to kill his opponents? The answer is: All four movies.

Youre the one needing to follw a little of your own get real advice.

Mickey is very chinny.

McClane force can render him unconcious like a ninja chick.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hey, you script shit out all the time, sir.

You mean, when has McClane used non-boxing tactics/rules to kill his opponents? The answer is: All four movies.

QFT

Originally posted by Robtard
Hey, you script shit out all the time, sir.

You mean, when has McClane used non-boxing tactics/rules to kill his opponents? The answer is: All four movies.

True, but he had chains, SUV's, Crown vics, a zippo, computer keyboards, a GUN. In the steel cage, all he has is h2h, which he doesn't usually fair well at.

Mickey isn't gonna LET McClane get close enough to use said dirty tactics (headlocks, neck breaking, grappling, etc😉.

Mac feints, tries to tackle Mickey, Mickey backs away or throws an elbow, Mac goes down.

Mac goes in swinging, Mickey ducks, KO's Mac with one punch.

Mac gets lucky and gets in close on Mickey, well, Mickey is free to use whatever means necessary to escape.

I say again, the fight at the end of Snatch, look at the beating Mickey took, and he still won. Mac wouldnt have lasted half that long.

I shoulda known better than start a McClane thread with the two of you around. 🙄 Objectivity is right out the window, fanboyism supersedes common sense.

You baited.

You were countered with logic.

Let the grizzling begin.

Logic? McClane taking on a fighter of Mickeys caliber and winning is logic? Thats a fairy tale, bro. Thats fanboyism to the extreme. Thats saying that McClane can beat anybody at any time. Thats.....well.....Swinging on McClanes nuts.

Hes beaten FBI, CIA, SEALS, International terrorists. Mercenaries all over the world. Killed them.

Mickey is a gypsy bare knuckle fighter.

Mickey is unproven under non-boxing conditions, and is proven to be vulnerable in the chin dept. DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!! DANGER!!!.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Logic? McClane taking on a fighter of Mickeys caliber and winning is logic? Thats a fairy tale, bro. Thats fanboyism to the extreme. Thats saying that McClane can beat anybody at any time. Thats.....well.....Swinging on McClanes nuts.

Well, it was a bit of biased bullshit to put a bare knuckle champion against a brawler and then cater the environment solely to one guy.

Still, my scenario stands, Pikey will be expecting a boxing match, McClane will out think him, feint, drop, kick and ram his head into the steel cage til his ears bleed. This is what McClane does, fights unconventional and dirty; there are four movies to prove it.

Wtf is this shit? The Pikey Wreck's McClane. In DH 3 John got his ass handed to him by tall henchman no 4 in fisticuffs, the bare-knuckle champ could bend him over and do nasty things to him while drunk, blindfolded and crippled.

McClane cannot take the physical beatings that Mickey can. He has not shown combat skills even close to Mickey. And he will go down, as RJ said, quicker than a drunken cheerleader at the prom.

btw, one of the only places on the human body you cannot train or toughen is the chin. Mickey hits him once there, it will not matter how lucky or durable he is, he falls.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's like a feat or a power, like Superman's invulnerability, Hulk's increasing strength, Wolverine's healing factor etcetera etcetera etcetera.

So there are "Luck feats?"

I mean - how the hell can you gauge that in a debate? Couldn't you just say he could beat anyone because he would "get lucky?"

Mickey took out Gorgeous George with one hit. Mickey took a beating from his opponent in the ring until he decided that it was time to knock the guy out.

McClane may be a tough, but judging by movie feats, he falls. Hard. I see no clearer argument here.

Nah. That Russian was epically huge.

Midget Mickey will be using shots that McClane'll see coming.

What do you base that assertion on...? Hes taken all manner of testing ridculous abuse and lived.

Its a one trick small, chinny pony versus a master of versatile killing techniques that has defeated all that the world threw at him for 4 epic movies and whipped all their asses..

Originally posted by Impediment
Mickey took out Gorgeous George with one hit. Mickey took a beating from his opponent in the ring until he decided that it was time to knock the guy out.

McClane may be a tough, but judging by movie feats, he falls. Hard. I see no clearer argument here.

Gorgeous "Fat old bastard" George, you mean...? 😛

C'mon. McClane has killed hard hitting, fitter guys than that all the time.

See, I'm amazed how people (namely RJ) will resort to listing all the times McClane was beaten down as proof of his inferiority, yet conveniently ignore that he took all those beatings(which should have killed him), came back and kicked the ass-beaters ass, usually ending in their death.

-McClane has taken more physical damage than Mickey, he has four movies worth of being punched, kicked, thrown, hit with objects, great falls, car crashes etc, Mickey has one boxing fight worth of damage soak. Fact.

-McClane has shown better H2H overall, Mickey just punches, McClane punches, kicks, headbutts, elbows and grapples. Fact.

Edit: I double-dog dare you to counter those facts.

I've never seen Die Hard 4. I hear that it's pretty horrible.

Give it a chance, Id say.

Its way better than I thought it'd be.