Originally posted by Robtard
You're just angry, because even with your selected scenario designed to heavily favour not McClane, it's been argued that McClane's abilities could pull him through this.Really, it's your own fault.
Edit: Wait, why should Butch have taken it up the ass? That's just an odd thing to say. Also for the record, Butch is a boxer who killed a man in the ring, so he'd probably beat your Pikey-Pitt too.
QFT
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mad? Why should I be mad? It's plain as day that Mickey wins here. Any fool can see it, unless they are a fanboy.My scenario was selected to keep McClane from going down in seconds. McClane's abilities won't pull him through this. Never, not once, in all the DH movies, has McClane shown outstanding h2h skills. Nor has he shown that he has what it takes to go 15 rounds. Nor has he shown that he has what it takes to compete with someone like Mickey.
He can try all day and all night to get inside Mickey's guard, jab jab jab SMACK, KO'd in one punch.
You just think your boy Mac is Superman and can take anyone anytime, despite that anyone being ten times the fighter he is.
I was referring to the fact that Butch was tied up and was GOING to take it up the ass, but broke free and pwned.
I just noticed something....3 pages in, and you and sadako are the only two in Mac's camp. McClane's left and right one INDEED.
The thing is, RJ that you look silly saying that as the McClane nut location was a comedic reaction to your debating tactics relying heavily of accusations of nutswinging. (You've even done it in this thread this time)
We have said nothing of your Pitt Nipplelickery, and would advise you that your love for the nipple has blinded you here.
See your sig for details.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Vulnerable in the chin? Dude, take off the blindfold and watch the last fight in Snatch. One does not become a "champion" in the boxing world by having a weak chin, much less the bareknuckle boxing world.Non boxing conditions were shown in the fight with Gorgeous George, Mickey took a helluva beating, but wasn't even fazed, came back and one punch KO'd him.
This is a crutch Rob and sadako use. Look at their locations.
There are tonnes of Champions who have been deposed by quick assaults.
No. No crutches here.
Its not my nature. I even rejected religion.
Seeing the world in its harsh, bleak yet true light is a my way, not crutches. And McClane is lucky enough to catch Mickey on the way in.
(Mickey doesnt seem to defend too well)
Now watch what happens damage difference wise between "car hitting wall at 50", and "Car at 50, has head on collision with other car at 50". This is counterpunching at its finest, and even accidental lucky counterpunching can KO.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The only thing McClane took is Mickey's right hand, then a short trip to sleepyland ✅ You've only shown fanboyism and ignorance, you've shown nothing creditable here.Again, three pages, you and sadako the only McClane supporters, right and left nut.......coincidence? Get off Mac's nutsack and show some objectivity.
McClane has never been locked in a steel cage, with no weapons, nothing to use other than his hands and feet, against a fighter of Mickey's caliber. No zippo, no trucks, no cars, no guns, no foreign objects here. Just hands and feet, which McClane sucks ass with.
Like wise, Mickey has never been locked in a steel cage with a McClane before.
First time McClane is locked in a steel cage, 12 terrorists were killed and they called it DH1....
Sixty something? Nows whos speaking ignorantly...?
Hes in his early fifties now. He was born May 23, 1955.
Your blind bias is now obvious.
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... Because I got his age wrong? 😬
And you know your fictional characters DOB and you're talking to me about bias?
Yes. Anyone with a brain pumped full of LSD can see it. Yes. I agree.
Yes, that is how blindingly obvious it is.
Fact- McClane has never won a fight without utilizing his environment or some kind of weapon. As in, he's never won a fist-fight, ever.
Fact- Mickey has. Spectacularly.
Because you misrepresented the facts in order to aggressively assert that Myself and Robtard were effectively trolling and ignoreworthy, without even having known the facts.
Yes I am. Google is a wonderful thing. It wasnt hard to check, once a massive disparity between the character onscreen and the character you seem to be talking about was established.
Spectacularly against fat old men. (one of which Sparked Mickey out)
A title ranking champ like 1985 Tyson would have killed Mickey.
Mickey is chinny. Once McClane causes one of those arty blackouts Mickey has, Mcclane'll be kicking him in the head/stamping on his throat....anything.
Also, fine: He kills Mickey by ramming the smaller, wireier man repeatedly and violently head first into the cage bars, smashing his head open.
Originally posted by NephthysI'll throw them a bone and say McClane at his baddest. IMO, DH2. Up to McClane's wives, though.
Ignore them RJ, they're being ignorant, probably on purpose to annoy you. Anyone with a brain can see Mickey pwns hard.Btw, is this DH 4 McClane, you know, the sixty-something year old man?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Ignore them RJ, they're being ignorant, probably on purpose to annoy you. Anyone with a brain can see Mickey pwns hard.Btw, is this DH 4 McClane, you know, the sixty-something year old man?
I'm still waiting for your counter to my post-reply a page back, where you claimed Mickey was both a better combatant and had greater damage soak. Because the last time I checked, just saying "*name* pwns hard" isn't a solid line of debate, considering the match isn't heavily one-sided, despite RJ's machinations.
Who cares if he were 80? We go by movie feats and by all accounts, McClane gets tougher and more clever with age.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Like wise, Mickey has never been locked in a steel cage with a McClane before.First time McClane is locked in a steel cage, 12 terrorists were killed and they called it DH1....
This is very true, didn't connect the similarities between DH1 and this match.
Watch, next they'll be arguing that Mickey in the DH1 scenario would "pwn Gruber, pwn Gruber hard".
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthYeah, that's the only way Mac beats the Pikey 😄 with a GUN.
He would attempt to sell Gruber a dog cheap in order for his release, and be shot, Ellis style.
It's funny, all you have to offer is:
ZOMG McClane has four movies!!! McClane has a time tested chin!!! McClane and his luck!!!!!! McClane gets tougher with age!!!!! And yada yada yada, blah blah blah. All opinions and speculation, and all bullshit. You haven't posted one shred of evidence that McClane beats Mickey. .......All you have done is swing from McClanes nuts and post what you WISH would happen in this fight. Wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which gets full first haermm
McClane beats Mickey...... haermm I chuckle every time I even think it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Rob, no one has an unbeatable chin. It's not like someone absolutely cannot be KO'd, it's just not possible. Everyone has a point where their head says "Oh **** it" and they are out.Mickey took how many rounds of getting his ass beat at the end of Snatch? 10? 12? 15? THAT'S endurance. He took bare fists to his face, to his body, elbows and shit, all from a guy twice his size. There's proof of Mickeys edge in endurance.
Stamina? He was able to get up and KO the same guy after umpteen rounds of having his ass beat, there's the stamina.
McClane gets his ass beat for a few minutes at a time, while Mickey gets his ass beat round after round after round after round after round.
Think about it this way. Mickey had to hold back that last fight, take the epic beating, and take a dive. In the end he won, KOing the guy. You seriously think McClane, put in Mickeys shoes, would have been able to do the same? Objectivity, please.
K you have a couple good points man, but you're forgettng you cant compare boxing to an actual fight for your life. Boxing are 3 minute rounds with breaks inbetween. McClane wasnt like YOOOOOO HOLD UP A MIN MAN. We get a union break now! Lets meet up in another 2 and continue beating the shit out of each other. McClane is battle tested too. 4 movies of Die Hard to prove it. He's gone u against martial artists, and done things tha tare in the realm of insane. I say its a very close match but John still wins.
Originally posted by KaibsYes, he kicks major ass, but read this, this post is win:
K you have a couple good points man, but you're forgettng you cant compare boxing to an actual fight for your life. Boxing are 3 minute rounds with breaks inbetween. McClane wasnt like YOOOOOO HOLD UP A MIN MAN. We get a union break now! Lets meet up in another 2 and continue beating the shit out of each other. McClane is battle tested too. 4 movies of Die Hard to prove it. He's gone u against martial artists, and done things tha tare in the realm of insane. I say its a very close match but John still wins.
Originally posted by NephthysFact- McClane has never won a fight without utilizing his environment or some kind of weapon. As in, he's never won a fist-fight, ever.
Fact- Mickey has. Spectacularly.
Hand to hand. Nothing to use in the steel cage. No zippos, no trucks, no cars, no guns, no hoist chains, nothing.
Also, McClane fight for a few minutes, then rests for an hour, fights again for a few minutes, rests for a few hours, drives a car, shoots a machine gun, fights again, talks to Zeus, smokes a cigarette, fights again......Put him in a steel cage against Mickey, with no breaks, no resting, and he is wheezing and choking five minutes in. IF Mickey chooses to let him last that long.