Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, I know a guy here who works at the Omni, he makes a fairly good salary, plus he gets like 150 to 200 a day in tips.
Dude.
That's a really nice livin'.
If his Salaray is just $25,000 a year, he still makes between
64,000 and 77,000 a year.
That's assuming he only works 5 days a week.
That's not bad at all.
Originally posted by dadudemonHe is the biggest ass kisser, mind you, helps out when you pucker up and give the guests head as they walk into the lobby.
Dude.That's a really nice livin'.
If his Salaray is just $25,000 a year, he still makes between
64,000 and 77,000 a year.
That's assuming he only works 5 days a week.
That's not bad at all.
The best tip earners depends on job, where worked, and when. I know many cocktail servers in Vegas earn beween $120,000, and $150,000 a year if they work the tables (the ones working slots make less) and if they work the 6PM to 2AM shift. This may have declined since the Vegas economy took a dump. They also make $10-$15 an hour but they are Union.
When i was a craps dealer in the late 80s I averaged around $300 to $400 a day but now dealers split tips differently and make a lot less than they used to. Valet parking attendants in Vegas used to make in the $300-$500 per day range though I think it might be slightly less now.
I know bartenders at the current "hip" nightclub in any given major city can make upwards of $1,000 a night but this declines considerably when the clubs popularity wanes.
We can always get into strippers, who can make upwards of several thousand a day depending on where they work and how good they look..."extras" not whistanding😉 but they usually have to give a percentage to the club.
Earning tips can be a very good living IF IF IF you are in the right place at the right time but it's best to assume the money will not always be there as conditions can and usually do, change.
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
You know nothing about me. You continually slander me when it is YOU who know nothing about how the tipping system really works in the US. Most waitpersons in the US, whether they work at Denny's in Kansas, or Commanders palace in New Orleans, or Letuce in New York City, make whatever the federal or state minimum requirement for tipped employees is. In states that allow the federal tip credit these waitpersons make $2.01 an hour or very close to it. Some states, such as California and Nevada, do not allow the tip credit and require even tipped employees to be paid federal minimum wage of $7.25. The only time said employees, even the ones which work in your "expensive silver service restauraunt" make more than said garbage wages is when they are UNION, and most of them aren't. Tips are their livelehood,whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.BTW, I worked as a tipped employee as a waiter, bartender, and casino dealer in Vegas from 1979 to 1991 so I know very well how the tipping system works.
I don't have to know a whole lot about you, I just read that post.
French Laundry, a very nice restaurant in New York City, where you can have a 3 course meal for around $300 to $400 (and up, I am guessing) has its waiter paid a shit loads.
Furthermore, they don't EXPECT tip, service is INCLUDED in the meal price (not meaning the ''tips'' are included, but meaning that you're not required to leave any, as by coming to our restaurant and eating our expensive French food, you're paying for our chef, our staff and our food in the price we offer) and the wage that the waiters get there is more than sufficient.
So, as I said, once you go to a place where you're happy to spend over $500 on a meal per person, don't shit and undermine the waiters that are trained, professional and have real waiting skills and group them in the same category as some students or someone looking for a quick buck and who works at a crappy restaurant.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
French Laundry, a very nice restaurant in New York City, where you can have a 3 course meal for around $300 to $400 (and up, I am guessing) has its waiter paid a shit loads.
There's a French Laundry in Yountville Ca., 50-60 miles from me, you're not tipping because the meals are already ridiculously priced and the waiters (I'd assume) make more than minium wage, granted, the food is excellent and it's more of an eating event, but that's not the norm in the food/service industry.
Originally posted by Robtard
There's a French Laundry in Yountville Ca., 50-60 miles from me, you're not tipping because the meals are already ridiculously priced and the waiters (I'd assume) make more than minium wage, granted, the food is excellent and it's more of an eating event, but that's not the norm in the food/service industry.
AHA! Now I know where you live!
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
AHA! Now I know where you live!
Larkspur Ca. 94939, Marin County.
It was listed as my location until recently.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes.Stockton, Vallejo, or Sacramento.
I could have sworn he told us before. He lives in a suburb around there.
Ugh, dude. I'd not live in Stockton, Vallejo or Sac. **** that. Shit weather and shit food.
Originally posted by Robtard
Larkspur Ca. 94939, Marin County.It was listed as my location until recently.
Ugh, dude. I'd not live in Stockton, Vallejo or Sac. **** that. Shit weather and shit food.
Well, according to google map, if I start walking I'll be there in 40 days and 5 hours.
However if I take a car, I'll be there tomorrow.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well, according to google map, if I start walking I'll be there in 40 days and 5 hours.However if I take a car, I'll be there tomorrow.
I'm on the West Coast, you're closer to the East Coast and North of me. That would be one seriously epic drive to pull in one day.
Maybe you can be here by Monday; Monday is good for me. Remember the lube, don't want you walking funny afterward.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't have to know a whole lot about you, I just read that post.French Laundry, a very nice restaurant in New York City, where you can have a 3 course meal for around $300 to $400 (and up, I am guessing) has its waiter paid a shit loads.
Furthermore, they don't EXPECT tip, service is INCLUDED in the meal price (not meaning the ''tips'' are included, but meaning that you're not required to leave any, as by coming to our restaurant and eating our expensive French food, you're paying for our chef, our staff and our food in the price we offer) and the wage that the waiters get there is more than sufficient.
So, as I said, once you go to a place where you're happy to spend over $500 on a meal per person, don't shit and undermine the waiters that are trained, professional and have real waiting skills and group them in the same category as some students or someone looking for a quick buck and who works at a crappy restaurant.
Really? Is that a fact. Did your waiter at "French laundry" tell you what he made? How do you know he didn't expect a tip? Did he tell you that or is it just what you assumed? I've been to NYC and eaten at 2 of their top resteraunts, Letuce and Four Seasons, and not only did you tip, it was included in the bill as "gratuity" (22% at Letuce, not sure the percentage at FS).
FYI, since you claim to know so much about high end eateries I find it odd that you've never mentioned the Captain. High end resteraunts almost always have a Captain and the waiters act as servce assistants to the Captian. Oh and yes, they almost always make tips. The Captian and Waiters usually tip the Maitre D who acts as the Manager of high end dining establishments.
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Really? Is that a fact. Did your waiter at "French laundry" tell you what he made? How do you know he didn't expect a tip? Did he tell you that or is it just what you assumed? I've been to NYC and eaten at 2 of their top resteraunts, Letuce and Four Seasons, and not only did you tip, it was included in the bill as "gratuity" (22% at Letuce, not sure the percentage at FS).FYI, since you claim to know so much about high end eateries I find it odd that you've never mentioned the Captain. High end resteraunts almost always have a Captain and the waiters act as servce assistants to the Captian. Oh and yes, they almost always make tips. The Captian and Waiters usually tip the Maitre D who acts as the Manager of high end dining establishments.
I have no idea what you're talking about. 😐
I'm a redneck who would rather go to Chili's and spend the rest on electronics. 😐
Another thing to consider here. Many people get service jobs knowing they will make tips. Employers are able to pay them less as a result. Take away the tips and many bars, restaurants, casinos, etc will have a harder time finding employees, especially if the economy recovers. Businesses will have no choice but to pay more and the way they will make up the difference is to raise their prices, and the service won't be as good because the employees will know their money is guaranteed.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The whole tipping business is bullshit. In Japan it is offensive to tip a taxi driver, because he works for his money and does not take charity.When I go to the bar or a restaurant, the waiter/tress there has been employed to do a job of serving and giving me a great service. It is in their job description to give a good service and that is what the employer pays them to do.
So, what is tipping? Giving them money for doing what they were supposed to be doing anyway.If the wage is too low, that is nobody's problem - get another job where the wage is higher.
Very well said. I have a question though: Do you think restaurant employers should raise their hourly rate to minimum wage, or be forced to? Also, I wonder how that might affect their business. I for one think servers should definitely be making, at the very least, a few bucks more than minimum wage. And they don't even make half of minimum wage. How is that legal, anyway?
Originally posted by meep-meep
I for one think servers should definitely be making, at the very least, a few bucks more than minimum wage. And they don't even make half of minimum wage. How is that legal, anyway?
Because even government and society in general recognize that the majority of their income is from tips.