Originally posted by shokosugi
1) Superman rips the gem of cytorak out of his fat ass and its all over.2) T-Vo. if Supes can defeat Dominus with T-Vo it will definitely work against Juggs.
3) Speed Blitzzzzzz
Juggs goes down crying like a little *****
Not really. Juggernaut didn't have the gem on him when re-powered.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He wasn't advancing when they started. He simply overpowered the Hulk.
Exactly he started to move so therefore became unstoppable. He doesn't have to be stronger than WWH to push him and gain some momentum. Like I said one fight is no basis for judging that Juggernaut is stronger than Superman.
Originally posted by shokosugi
1) Superman rips the gem of cytorak out of his fat ass and its all over.2) T-Vo. if Supes can defeat Dominus with T-Vo it will definitely work against Juggs.
3) Speed Blitzzzzzz
Juggs goes down crying like a little *****
The gem isn't inside of him so that wouldn't work.
Is Dominus invulnerable and has a powerful HF like Cain?
The speedblitz won't hurt him, but it will work if he is going for BFR.
Cain isn't fat at all, it's all muscle. I must say I do enjoy biased views against Cain. I can't think of what he did to upset you so much, but meh.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He overpowered him with strength. Juggernauts unstoppability enchantment isn't in effect unless he's already moving.
You don't have to be stronger than someone to push them around. Rockslide knocked WWH down. Juggernaut wouldn't have to put much effort into moving WWH a little to take one first step and become unstoppable.
Besides I'm not too sure about him not moving before hand, he's dishing out some heavy blows to WWH so I don't he is standing rooted to the spot. That's not how fights go. In fact he was moving before hand as he went after WWH looking for round 2 after being re-powered.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You're not getting anything. My point is he easily showed strength to match WWH and you bring up garbage like Rockslide knocking him down? What the hell does that have to do with anything?
My point is one single fight does not put Juggernaut in the Superman level of strength (not saying he isn't I'm saying it's difficult to judge). Other, weaker charcters had good showings against WWH but they clearly aren't as strong as Superman.
Originally posted by shokosugi
T-vo goes after the mind so invulnerability and HF is absolutely worthless vs. T-vo. and considering Juggs is kind of "weak-minded", this makes it even easier for Supes to defeat him.
And has it gone through mystical things that protects minds, or impenetrable forcefields?
Originally posted by The PictDrawing blood is not matching WWH in strength, which Juggs did, neither one barely did anything to Hulk.
He beat WWH in the test of strength because he is unstoppable. However Colossus and even Emma Frost IIRC were drawing blood and rocking WWH. So one fight is hard to tell when it comes to gauging Juggernaut's strength.
I don't know how you think they 'rocked' him.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
And has it gone through mystical things that protects minds, or impenetrable forcefields?
The Gem of cytorrak doesn't protect Juggs from psychic attacks, his helmet does. All Superman has to do is remove his Helmet and it's all over.
Juggs is also not totally invulnerable
Originally posted by shokosugi
The Gem of cytorrak doesn't protect Juggs from psychic attacks, his helmet does. All Superman has to do is remove his Helmet and it's all over.Juggs is also not totally invulnerable
Context my friend for one. One Juggernaut didn't have his forcefield up in that first one. Also it's not even a psychic attack.
Two, do you know about his fight with Beast? That was when he was actually dead, he was switching from Earth to Oblivion where Eternity sent him for trying to attack him. Cain's powers weren't working properly, he was in a weakened state hence why he reverted to his regular age when he lost his helmet.
Also I'm not doubting that Clark could remove the helmet. The OP also said he was in the DOS mode/mindset, and Clark was fighting with his versatile skills in that fight with DD so he won't be doing it here anyway.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Context my friend for one. One Juggernaut didn't have his forcefield up in that first one. Also it's not even a psychic attack.Two, do you know about his fight with Beast? That was when he was actually dead, he was switching from Earth to Oblivion where Eternity sent him for trying to attack him. Cain's powers weren't working properly, he was in a weakened state hence why he reverted to his regular age when he lost his helmet.
Also I'm not doubting that Clark could remove the helmet. The OP also said he was in the DOS mode/mindset, and Clark was fighting with his versatile skills in that fight with DD so he won't be doing it here anyway.
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