Juggernauts test

He used his eye beamz, but that's about it.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Because he's been around since the 1930's and he's used it 1 time.

Actually Superman had telekenesis/telephatic abilities in the 1930s and 40s. (not T-vo but..)

And Superman used T-Vo atleast a few times. Against Kem-El and Against Dominus. He also used T-vo with Eradicator iirc.

anyway goodnight

Originally posted by shokosugi
And Superman used T-Vo atleast a few times. Against Kem-El and Against Dominus. He also used T-vo with Eradicator iirc.

Scans?

Juggernaut should probably win, I think. I mean, if BFR is out of the question. His durability is above Superman's, he can't be physically stopped, and he is probably in Superman's league in strength.

Although, to bring up an old point; Juggernaut is probably not as strong as WWHulk. Considering all the physics involved, and Juggernaut's power...

Well, Juggernaut has had to match regular Savage Hulk in strength before, but has never "dominated" him in strength, which I think he should have if he were as least equal to a Hulk that's way more powerful than standard Hulk. Not to mention WWHulk has all the same powers as Savage Hulk, just amplified, and that's including his strength increasing from anger. So that's one thing to note.

Second; A test of strength is not just arm power, it'd have to include everything, straight down to his toes, and would require forward momentum in at least some small measure.

And my final point.

Juggernaut weighs more than Hulk. Juggernaut weighs 1,900 lbs according to official bio. And Hulk only weighs 1,150 lbs. according to official bio.

Since both characters can easily lift insanely more than that, the test of strength would solely rely on ground traction and body weight... Just thought I'd point that out.

Juggs is strong. Remember he knocked over one of the Trade Towers just by hitting it with his shoulder.

Originally posted by shokosugi
My argument is, WHEN Jugg's helmet is off, Supes can use T-vo to defeat him.

end of discussion 🙂

Yes because thats what he tried to do against DD in DOS.... 🤣

Frankly T-Vo is utter PIS bullcrap...

You all must have forgotten the pretty obvious fact that Superman didn't even know about T-vo during or before the Death of Superman arc. It's a mental martial art that Supes was trained in later.

And Shokosugi cited Dominus as an obvious example...Supes' first encounter with Dominus took place in '98 (I think), when he was whipping Kismet's ass. Obviously, DOS took place in '93. And he doesn't use T-vo on Dominus until...'01, I think? (AOS?) First person he used it on was Kem, I thought.

*shrug*

Originally posted by shokosugi
ROFL the scan clearly shows Juggs is vulnerable to telepathic attacks (Prof. X scan) with his Helmet off theres nothing more to discuss. 🙂)

and supes TP ability is like professor X's ?

the thread Opener said: DOS like eviroment, so CIS is allowed, in this case supes will fight him just like he did DD and for that he will have his head twisted backwards once juggs gets a hold of him....

Originally posted by Master Court
Juggernaut weighs more than Hulk. Juggernaut weighs 1,900 lbs according to official bio. And Hulk only weighs 1,150 lbs. according to official bio.

Juggernaut weighs 900 lbs. Hulk weighs more than Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You all must have forgotten the pretty obvious fact that Superman didn't even know about T-vo during or before the Death of Superman arc.

Originally posted by shokosugi
Actually Superman had telekenesis/telephatic abilities in the 1930s and 40s. (not T-vo but..)

And Superman used T-Vo atleast a few times. Against Kem-El and Against Dominus. He also used T-vo with Eradicator iirc.

dustywanky

Originally posted by Enyalus
You all must have forgotten the pretty obvious fact that Superman didn't even know about T-vo during or before the Death of Superman arc. It's a mental martial art that Supes was trained in later.

And Shokosugi cited Dominus as an obvious example...Supes' first encounter with Dominus took place in '98 (I think), when he was whipping Kismet's ass. Obviously, DOS took place in '93. And he doesn't use T-vo on Dominus until...'01, I think? (AOS?) First person he used it on was Kem, I thought.

*shrug*

I kinda went there. I said that in all the years Superman has been around he used T-Vo once as far as I can remember.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Juggernaut weighs 900 lbs. Hulk weighs more than Juggernaut.

http://marvel.com/universe/Juggernaut

Scroll down to "weight".

That bio is incorrect. Juggernaut weighs in at 900lbs.

Savage Hulk weighs 1400 lbs

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That bio is incorrect. Juggernaut weighs in at 900lbs.

Well Juggs may have used to weigh 900 pounds, but since the mid 90s I would say 1900 pounds is more like it. Dude is huge.

He is often drawn to look larger than 6'10 900lbs, no doubt. But his '09 handbook bio still has him listed as 6'10 900lbs.

Originally posted by Master Court
http://marvel.com/universe/Juggernaut

Scroll down to "weight".

That is like a wiki page. Certain members can edit it. Cain has been listed as being 6'10" 900 lbs.

There are also complaints of other bios being wrong. Wolverine and Iceman are listed as being as smart as Reed Richards.