Colossus vs Elektra

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Adamantium is far greater than Colossus. That much is clear. Give Thor an Adamantium sword and he would take Colossus's head off. I'm not arguing Colossus' durability in regards to Adamantium's durability. I'm arguing Wolverine's ability with his Adamantium claws to cut Colossus.

Or the sparks were meant to show that he could not damage the metal in any significant way, hence why the writer didn't draw it. Another possibility. Not really, he might be metal through and through, but if Wolverine can cut him, we would be able to tell. It wouldn't be hard to represent that at all.

Sure he did.

[QUOTE=12184699]Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]Adamantium is far greater than Colossus. That much is clear. Give Thor an Adamantium sword and he would take Colossus's head off. I'm not arguing Colossus' durability in regards to Adamantium's durability. I'm arguing Wolverine's ability with his Adamantium claws to cut Colossus.

Or the sparks were meant to show that he could not damage the metal in any significant way, hence why the writer didn't draw it. Another possibility. Not really, he might be metal through and through, but if Wolverine can cut him, we would be able to tell. It wouldn't be hard to represent that at all.

Sure he did.

Mindset would be in heaven.

I am arguing that Colossus was not hurt in any significant way and I'm doing a pretty fine job of it too. 😄

Not really. There is only one piece of evidence for both sides really, and that's the occurrence. As I recall, Wolverine never attempted to cut Colossus other than that moment.

Simulations =/= Reality

Hasn't it been shown Wolverine taking Magneto down or someone of that status in simulations before?

Really show were he showed damage down? Have you even read the issue?

Lol mindset.

Ecpt im not argueing that, im argueing that wolverine can cut colossus and stab him.

Actaully there more evidences then that, like colossus reaction to wolverines claws and wolverines believe he can cut colossus. And you have yet to prove they don’t remember the event, that’s simply you speculating based off nothing ive seen on panel.

Simulation being used inorder to see if they could take down the team of x-men at magneto side, if colossus was unable to be cut by wolverine why would they show wolverine dropping him? This would go against your belieive wolverine cant cut colossus. Like I said it not as cut and dry as u make it sound.

No wolverine was asked by storm if he had beaten magneto yet in the simulation. Wolverine had been in the danger room for a week straight running the same secenerio with random variables each one was wolverine sneaking into magnetos houses and killing him. Hundreds of times he ran the scenerio he succeeded lfew times he said, thoses were by killing him in his sleep.

Originally posted by lft4ded
Yeah but that's why the bad guys lose. They make dumb mistakes. 🙂

That and non-simulated heroes rise to the occassion.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually, what causes sparks when two metals collide is an indication of damage. Believe it or not but iron is pyrophoric. That means that its a substance that catches fire at room temperature. The outermost layer of any iron or steel object is already oxidized. so there's a very fine layer of rust that keeps the rest of the more pure iron from contacting the air. Those sparks are actually the result of a chemical reaction with the air. The simple formula for the reaction is Fe2 + O2 = Fe2O3 + heat. The heat being visible in the form of sparks. Also in the sparks are particles of the iron.

So whenever there are sparks that fine layer of oxidization has been stripped away.

Seeing as how that's not possible in the given scenario of Wolverine's claws versus Cap's shield. Its just another example of the writer and artist not being science buffs.

Stay the hell out of this. We don't need your science talk here. This is fiction damn it. 😠

We're talking about a man of steel, and a 5 foot hairy midget with bones for metal.

😆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stay the hell out of this. We don't need your science talk here. This is fiction damn it. 😠

We're talking about a man of steel, and a 5 foot hairy midget with bones for metal.

😆

Edit: Either I'm on sleep dep, or its actually funny to read what I just posted with my avatar. 😆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stay the hell out of this. We don't need your science talk here. This is fiction damn it. 😠

We're talking about a man of steel, and a 5 foot hairy midget with bones for metal.

😆

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Or they were there to show he did damage them. Why would the artist state his armor no match if he intended them unable to damage colossus in anyway? Ecpt the artist of the series dident shown damage well through out the issue or arc.

Or not. He stated it because it's true. Adamantium is above Colossus' organic metal, but just because Adamantium is a lot more durable then a said object, does not mean Wolverine has the strength/force necessary to cut said object. It's really simple.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Really show were he showed damage down? Have you even read the issue?

Lol mindset.

Sure I have. It's just been a few years give or take since I read that arc, so I simply agreed with you. You know not every post is sarcasm.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Ecpt im not argueing that, im argueing that wolverine can cut colossus and stab him.

So am I.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actaully there more evidences then that, like colossus reaction to wolverines claws and wolverines believe he can cut colossus. And you have yet to prove they don’t remember the event, that’s simply you speculating based off nothing ive seen on panel.

Like I said, his reaction can mean diddly squat. His been shown not to be afraid has he not? Does that mean Wolverine can't cut him or suggest Wolverine can cut him? His been shown to be afraid of Cyclops blast melting him, and his blasts aren't even heat based.

Was he not under mind control? That seems like a reasonable assumption.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Simulation being used inorder to see if they could take down the team of x-men at magneto side, if colossus was unable to be cut by wolverine why would they show wolverine dropping him? This would go against your belieive wolverine cant cut colossus. Like I said it not as cut and dry as u make it sound.

Like I said.

Simulations =/= Reality

Not everything that happens in simulations happens or goes according to plans in reality. Just saying. How would it go against it?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No wolverine was asked by storm if he had beaten magneto yet in the simulation. Wolverine had been in the danger room for a week straight running the same secenerio with random variables each one was wolverine sneaking into magnetos houses and killing him. Hundreds of times he ran the scenerio he succeeded lfew times he said, thoses were by killing him in his sleep.

Cool. Doesn't change:

Simulations =/= Reality.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I get that alot.

Edit: Either I'm on sleep dep, or its actually funny to read what I just posted with my avatar. 😆

Lol.

Lol, that ain't healthy. Your avatar is funny though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

Lol, that ain't healthy. Your avatar is funny though.

And I'm going to post this as well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Creshosk/KMC/Hulk-PP2cvr.jpg

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm going to post this here: So that people don't think we're crazy when I switch to a not so funny avatar.

And I'm going to post this as well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Creshosk/KMC/Hulk-PP2cvr.jpg

Hmm, that's some good thinking. I didn't of think of that all. Thought didn't cross my mind.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Or not. He stated it because it's true. Adamantium is above Colossus' organic metal, but just because Adamantium is a lot more durable then a said object, does not mean Wolverine has the strength/force necessary to cut said object. It's really simple.

Sure I have. It's just been a few years give or take since I read that arc, so I simply agreed with you. You know not every post is sarcasm.

wolverine has individuals much more durable then colossus.

sorry I am so uses to the sarcasm, if I come off disrespectful I dont mean to. I respect your opinion unlike many people I debate often.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I said, his reaction can mean diddly squat. His been shown not to be afraid has he not? Does that mean Wolverine can't cut him or suggest Wolverine can cut him? His been shown to be afraid of Cyclops blast melting him, and his blasts aren't even heat based.

Was he not under mind control? That seems like a reasonable assumption.

ecpt it not, sinces most of the time when ones mind controlled they remeber what happen, they jsut dont ahve controll over there actions. It was never implied or stated he could not remeber.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I said.

Simulations =/= Reality

Not everything that happens in simulations happens or goes according to plans in reality. Just saying. How would it go against it?

Cool. Doesn't change:

Simulations =/= Reality.

Ecpt the simulation was how they fair against there teamates. why would they have wolverine damaging and taking colossus out if he can't? If he was not able to why would they have him doing so?

Elektra.