Alien Entity vs Sise-Neg vs Marquis of Death

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Question if SiseNeg couldn't even kill Shuma
then how on earth could he be considered a God and all powerful?

The writer flat out states when SiseNeg finally achieved Godhood:

"Time - Space, it all melts into power ... power with a name ... SiseNeg"

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SiseNeg's original bio also states that he "became Godlike in magical power."

And as we know, he "absorbed all the magical energy in the entire universe"
(from the present of 616
back through the growth of the Marvelverse's time (all timelines)
to the point before the original Big Bang. (first creation of the universe)

SiseNeg was responsible for the "second creation of the Universe"

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The writer also stated that SiseNeg contained "all extant power"

(so that's all existing power right there)

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So this is why SiseNeg was God at that point:

book was a great read

Originally posted by Mr Master
When he found Shuma he wasn't all powerful yet,
and still it was a choice, he could've destroyed Shuma,
but at the cost of energy,
energy that he felt he needed to complete his Godhood.

The writer flat out states when SiseNeg finally achieved Godhood:

"Time - Space, it all melts into power ... power with a name ... SiseNeg"

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SiseNeg's original bio also states that he "became Godlike in magical power."

And as we know, he "absorbed all the magical energy in the entire universe"
(from the present of 616
back through the growth of the Marvelverse's time (all timelines)
to the point before the original Big Bang. (first creation of the universe)

SiseNeg was responsible for the "second creation of the Universe"

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The writer also stated that SiseNeg contained "all extant power"

(so that's [b]all existing power right there)

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So this is why SiseNeg was God at that point:

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Good Scans Mr. Masters and I do get your point. Thanks

Marquis of Death >>>>>>>>>>>>> A pair of Universal Forces.

Marquis of Death doesn't even belong in this battle. Both Sise-Neg and Alien Entity murderstomp him.

Originally posted by CortSether
Marquis of Death doesn't even belong in this battle. Both Sise-Neg and Alien Entity murderstomp him.

How the phuck does he not belong?

Originally posted by "Id"

Marquis of Death >>>>>>>>>>>>> A pair of Universal Forces.

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Ok, so how do we know Sise-Neg had all the magical energy across all realities,
which gave him the power to un-create/re-create the Marvel Cosmos?

The 616 Universe represents the "present" Reality of the Marvel Omniverse.

Any reality situated in the (past) or after (the future) is located in an Alternate Universe.

Sise-Neg stated he absorbed all mystical energy ... across all Time:

From the Future (his present) on down to the beginning, before the first Big Bang:

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*** This means he had to absorb mystical energy from UniverseS/RealitieS OUTSIDE of 616,
since again, the Past & Future are located in alternate/diverged universes/realities. ***

That said ...

We have to make sure this isn't hype, and it actually took place on panel

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Sise-Neg was first known as Cagliostro, and he had written a powerful book,
that revealed how to change the past, without endangering one's Present
existence.

Anyway, Mordo had acquired the book first, and went time traveling into the Past,
to try and change the Past so he can become a God in the Present.

Dr Strange follows him shifting into a void between Time to travel back in Time.

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As we can see, they're clearly OUTSIDE the 616 Reality,
and they begin to battle in this displaced realm:

"I learned you succeeded the Ancient One, in our reality ...
I discovered the book ... how to alter that reality to make myself supreme."

But even here, OUTSIDE the 616 reality,
in fact, outside any reality, their power is still being absorbed: (they don't how or by who)

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They end up going through a portal that leads to 18th Century Paris (an Alternate Universe)

Cagliostro (Sise-Neg) is there, which means he was absorbing their powers from ANOTHER Reality:

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Dr Strange continues to catch on ... that his weakness (losing his power) is due to Cagliostro (Sise-Neg)

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A bit later, Cagliostro had already left to another reality,
and Strange had ensnared Mordo with the Eye of Agamotto.

Cagliostro (from outside that reality) easily plucks Mordo away from the Aggy's Eye.

Strange, can't believe it:

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Continues in the next post ....

Sise-Neg absorbed all powers/energies
as he travelled downward/backward in time.
He wasn't interested in anything else except power to "Godhood."
He did however show interest in 3 different UniverseS of the infinity he absorbed.

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Sise-Neg stops in the Alternate Universe that houses ancient Camelot (5th-6th Century)
because he's interested in knowing who's mammoth concentration of energy is there. (Merlin's power)

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Sise-Neg stops at Ancient Egypt, (300 BC) Alternate Universe
with their many "gods" there was more concentrated mystical energy there than in Camelot:

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Sise-Neg stops in the Pre-Historic Age: (yet another alternate reality)

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One final note***

As to Shuma-Gorath ...

Sise-Neg wasn't trying to kill or even defeat anyone in his
absorption trip,he literally only absorbing as we went down the corridor of Time,
in fact, he only stopped at Camelot, Ancient Egypt and the Pre-Historic age cause
he was interested in who's mystical energy signature registered so high.

It was Dr Strange that pleaded with Sise-Neg to destroy Shuma,
but Sise-Neg refused, cause he felt it would take time,
and Shuma may absorb some of his energy while doing it.

Therefore Sise-Neg decided to absorb most of Shuma's power, which k.o.'s Shuma,
and bfr & trap Shuma to/in another Reality for millennia.

(Sise-Neg also re-created this reality free of Shuma right there on the spot)

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Continues in the next post ...

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The writer flat out states when SiseNeg finally achieved Godhood:

"Time - Space, it all melts into power ... power with a name ... SiseNeg"

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SiseNeg's original bio also states that he "became Godlike in magical power."

And as we know, he "absorbed all the magical energy in the entire universe"
(from the present of 616
back through the growth of the Marvelverse's time (all timelines)
to the point before the original Big Bang. (first creation of the universe)

SiseNeg was responsible for the "second creation of the Universe"

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The writer also stated that SiseNeg contained "all extant power"

(so that's all existing power right there)

In this same scene, we notice Genesis creates All Eras as well
which are all the Timelines:

Remember friends, just because the Guardians of the Galaxy are
located in a possible Future of 616 (Another Timeline - Another Era)
doesn't mean Reality 691 isn't an entire separate alternate Eternity/Universe.

As we know it is.

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So this is why SiseNeg was God at that point:

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Universal? .... I guess that's a matter of perspective. 😏

Normally it takes a single post, and some scan to point out the part where he rocking the Multiverse.

Yet here I am, reading through a block of text, only to realize that all this *** did was recreate a Universe.

Thats fantastic, he is Legion level. Yet still far below MoD.

Originally posted by "Id"
Normally it takes a single post, and some scan to point out the part where he rocking the Multiverse.

Yet here I am, reading through a block of text, only to realize that all this *** did was recreate a Universe.

Thats fantastic, he is Legion level. Yet still far below MoD.

😆

AE

Marquis wins.

Marquis of Death is an overrated sack of crap.

Sise-Neg impresses me the most out of the bunch, because he was just a regular human that achieved godhood purely by use of his own genius - figuring out how to change the past without endangering his present self. Then he remade Marvel all on his own using an enormous blast of magic power. Actually, he's the only one to remake Marvel without some outside help - Entropy/Genis basically got permission from Eternity, Thanos needed to capture THOTI, AE needed Reed to get anywhere (and all he did in the end was ask a question which made the spark of life so he wasn't even using any power). Sise-Neg was a badass mofo that just said "screw all you, I'm going to be god whether you like it or not. Gimme all your power!" 😂

Originally posted by Marvel_Mystic
Marquis of Death is an overrated sack of crap.

Sise-Neg impresses me the most out of the bunch...... Actually, he's the only one to remake Marvel without some outside help - Entropy/Genis basically got permission from Eternity, Thanos needed to capture THOTI, AE needed Reed to get anywhere (and all he did in the end was ask a question which made the spark of life so he wasn't even using any power).

MoD is a strange one, I get the oddest feeling like most of what he did was illusions/phantasms created by his power. Like was it REALLY Galactus and Ego and Eternity he was ordering around or just mental constructs created by him representing those beings without actually being them or having their true power level?

Sise Neg didn't really have any worthwhile fights but out of these three I can see him as being the most powerful.

Originally posted by zopzop

I wouldn't say crap. I'd place him around True Legion power level. Awesome, but not in Seis Neg's league.

This times 1000. Out of these three, Sise Neg is the most impressive. AE's creation would have fallen apart if it wasn't for Reed. Thanos with the HotI had to sacrifice himself and his power to fix that flaw in Creation, Entropy/Genis were just continuing the cosmic cycle which is no big deal.

MoD is a strange one, I get the oddest feeling like most of what he did was illusions/phantasms created by his power. Like was it REALLY Galactus and Ego and Eternity he was ordering around or just mental constructs created by him representing those beings without actually being them or having their true power level?

Sise Neg didn't really have any worthwhile fights but out of these three I can see him as being the most powerful. [/B]

👆

Originally posted by zopzop

I wouldn't say crap. I'd place him around True Legion power level.

Originally posted by zopzop

MoD is a strange one, I get the oddest feeling like most of what he did was illusions/phantasms created by his power. Like was it REALLY Galactus and Ego and Eternity he was ordering around or just mental constructs created by him representing those beings without actually being them or having their true power level?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He summoned and ordered Galactus around like his pet terrier back in the 1985 series. I am pretty sure the Abstracts he used as puppets in the war against his younger self, weren't just mere illusions but the real deal.

The MoD was an odd, odd character.

Originally posted by zopzop
That's the thing, how do we know that was a) a "real" Galactus and b) his power level?

The MoD was an odd, odd character.

This isn't Mephisto slagging Mjolnir. Stop making it seem that way.

Originally posted by Marvel_Mystic

AE needed Reed to get anywhere (and all he did in the end was ask a
question which made the spark of life so he wasn't even using any
power).

The AE created the "spark" that ignites everything from withIn itself.
(that's power even if it took a question to put that power in motion)

The AE also manipulated the Spark itself into motion.

That aside, I assume this is them 3 at their best,
in which case this is the AE merged with the Past-Present and Future of Marvel.

That was the end result of the story ...
AE becomes the unofficial embodiment of the original Big Bang and
then merges with everything the Big Bang created.
(it's like the omniverse rolled up in one coming at cha)

Therefore it should be AE = Genesis > MoD
(initially I called it differently, but this is right imo)