Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Please stop posting in threads you're not qualified to post in.
Shut your dumb mouth already! I don't like debateing with you cause you/I has revealed yourself to be a idiot & almost no clue about things he posts about!
SO stop trolling me & know your mad cause the ownings but get over it cause I'm done with ya clown!
GBD
If he gets past Atum/Demogorge (and I think he probably will), he would probably make it to 16. I don't think he could make it past IB, though.
Shuma is either being very underrated here or certain opponents are being very overrated. Thanos/Keeper would never stop him. Ever. Surtur, a skyfather, doesn't have the juice either even if he teams up with his predecessors. I'm looking at Atum here while discounting the God Squad incident almost entirely, but Shuma is still far beyond any of his opponents. Mephisto? IIRC, one of Shuma's lesser realms was described such that Mephisto or Dormammu would be akin to mice when entering them.
Shuma vs. IB is the clincher here, in my opinion.
Originally posted by Ouallada
If he gets past Atum/Demogorge (and I think he probably will), he would probably make it to 16. I don't think he could make it past IB, though.Shuma is either being very underrated here or certain opponents are being very overrated. Thanos/Keeper would never stop him. Ever. Surtur, a skyfather, doesn't have the juice either even if he teams up with his predecessors. I'm looking at Atum here while discounting the God Squad incident almost entirely, but Shuma is still far beyond any of his opponents. Mephisto? IIRC, one of Shuma's lesser realms was described such that Mephisto or Dormammu would be akin to mice when entering them.
Shuma vs. IB is the clincher here, in my opinion.
Naw Thanos & Keeper together would take him IMO!
Crom has beaten Shuma more then once I beleive. He's a highend skyfather nothing more!
IB would own him hard!
GBD
Shuma Gorath has never been defeated by conventional means, ie a battle. Being banished by magical incantations that aren't available here =/= being defeated in a battle. Neither Crom's books nor Crom's power has ever bound a FP Shuma either, so using them as an example is a tad fallacious.
As for Shuma's level, he is definitely beyond Skyfather. Beyond Elder God too. I would put him slightly below Galactus, which is where IB is also placed. It wouldn't be a washout for the IB, but I believe he would take it.
Thanos and the Keeper? No. Honestly, just no. As in: "No, not going to happen".
Originally posted by Ouallada
Shuma Gorath has never been defeated by conventional means, ie a battle. Being banished by magical incantations that aren't available here =/= being defeated in a battle. Neither Crom's books nor Crom's power has ever bound a FP Shuma either, so using them as an example is a tad fallacious.As for Shuma's level, he is definitely beyond Skyfather. Beyond Elder God too. I would put him slightly below Galactus, which is where IB is also placed. It wouldn't be a washout for the IB, but I believe he would take it.
Thanos and the Keeper? No. Honestly, just no. As in: "No, not going to happen".
Originally posted by Ouallada
If he gets past Atum/Demogorge (and I think he probably will), he would probably make it to 16. I don't think he could make it past IB, though.Shuma is either being very underrated here or certain opponents are being very overrated. Thanos/Keeper would never stop him. Ever. Surtur, a skyfather, doesn't have the juice either even if he teams up with his predecessors. I'm looking at Atum here while discounting the God Squad incident almost entirely, but Shuma is still far beyond any of his opponents. Mephisto? IIRC, one of Shuma's lesser realms was described such that Mephisto or Dormammu would be akin to mice when entering them.
Shuma vs. IB is the clincher here, in my opinion.
He knows his shat!! 👆
Originally posted by leonidas
dormmy's realm is pretty big, i'm a little surprised shuma is considered to be that far above him.
It's true...I remember reading that too. I will have to find it. Shuma is someone who is superior to Dormamu. Shuma is one of the old gods. Older than the Set, CHhton and others.
Shuma Gorath >>>>>Dormamu>>>Mephisto>KMC
Shuma Gorath
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/shumagorath.htm
CROM
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/crom.htm
Dudes site is excellent. Most people already know about it.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Shuma Gorathhttp://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/shumagorath.htm
CROM
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/crom.htmDudes site is excellent. Most people already know about it.
Yea Shuma is so impressive. Crom was able to inprison him & banish him two times! He could'nt even stop Conan from delivering the books to Crom!
Strange as beaten him what? 3 damn times!
Yea definately overrated!
GBD
Originally posted by GamorasBigDaddy
Yea Shuma is so impressive. Crom was able to inprison him & banish him two times! He could'nt even stop Conan from delivering the books to Crom!Strange as beaten him what? 3 damn times!
Yea definately overrated!
GBD
Point taken you right, but then Thanos is no Crom!!!!!!! Shuma Gorath wrecks Thanos and maker like a 1980 Chevette.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Point taken you right, but then Thanos is no Crom!!!!!!! Shuma Gorath wrecks Thanos and maker like a 1980 Chevette.
Well we seen Thanos be able to take Odin's shots & odin is usally regarded as the TOP skyfather which would be above Crom!
Anyone who does'nt think Thanos could give Shuma a decent fight at very least really does'nt know what there talking about...
GBD