Wolverine 2 movie

Started by Kazenji19 pages

Why the hell would Sunfire be in this?

he wasn't even in the story it was loosely based on.

Cool special effects? They already loosely played with things and\or source material, and given BS in Origins I expected something like that. Probably I was silly.

Unlike say Iron Man 3, where the changes to Mandarin had a purpose in the context of the story and the overall message the Shane Black was saying, nothing that was changed in Wolverine was done for any discernible reason. Why was Harada now longer Mariko's half brother and Shingen's half son? Why was he now an archer and no longer the Silver Samurai? Why was Shingen an impotent nothing of a character? Why was Viper and mutant snake women? Why was Silver Samurai a robot body armor? Why can Adamantium be so easily destroyed? Why why why? There was no reason or greater purpose to any of these changes outside of "entertainment value"... which obviously was less than effective because virtually every critic hated the last 1/4th of the movie.

Sad thing is there is a the workings of a truly great movie in there. I could be salvaged with two months of re-shoots to fix the ending and trip back to the editing bay.

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Wolverine should have been forced to kill a poisoned Mariko like in the comics to end her suffering. That would have book ended the movie and tied it in thematically with the Jean Grey plot and the theme of immortality that the movie was dealing with in the beginning. I thought that's where they were going with manifestations of Jean in the White Hot Room talking to Logan through out the movie and the inclusion of Viper as poison expert... but no.

As I often do when it comes to Wolverine stuff, I agree with Srank here.

As i said before regarding Viper

changes to Viper, I can understand them changing her what with Marvel Studios already using Hydra.

I was going to go see this but two people I talked to said it sucks.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I was going to go see this but two people I talked to said it sucks.

It doesn't suck at all.

Looks good so I'll go see it, although the early boxoffice numbers are pretty low as it opened to 22 million on Friday. Below studio expecatations.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Unlike say Iron Man 3, where the changes to Mandarin had a purpose in the context of the story and the overall message the Shane Black was saying, nothing that was changed in Wolverine was done for any discernible reason. Why was Harada now longer Mariko's half brother and Shingen's half son? Why was he now an archer and no longer the Silver Samurai? Why was Shingen an impotent nothing of a character? Why was Viper and mutant snake women? Why was Silver Samurai a robot body armor? Why can Adamantium be so easily destroyed? Why why why? There was no reason or greater purpose to any of these changes outside of "entertainment value"... which obviously was less than effective because virtually every critic hated the last 1/4th of the movie.

Sad thing is there is a the workings of a truly great movie in there. I could be salvaged with two months of re-shoots to fix the ending and trip back to the editing bay.

Spoiler:
Wolverine should have been forced to kill a poisoned Mariko like in the comics to end her suffering. That would have book ended the movie and tied it in thematically with the Jean Grey plot and the theme of immortality that the movie was dealing with in the beginning. I thought that's where they were going with manifestations of Jean in the White Hot Room talking to Logan through out the movie and the inclusion of Viper as poison expert... but no.

Sounds meh.

just saw this.. i liked it a lot.. i have the story arc on which this is based upon.. i for one do not worry about changes because that always happens when comic books become live action films... this time around this is a much better film than X-O: Wolverine.. better action, definitely better story.. Hugh is always good as Logan.. the ladies, liked Rila as Yukio, Svetlana as Viper, and Tao as Mariko.

all in all 8/10

Originally posted by Golgo13
Sounds meh.

It is.

My friends all like it though. /shrug

Talk about over Over exaggerating things

the movie isn't that bad, Compared to other movies that have been released in the past.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Spoiler:
Wolverine should have been forced to kill a poisoned Mariko like in the comics to end her suffering. That would have book ended the movie and tied it in thematically with the Jean Grey plot and the theme of immortality that the movie was dealing with in the beginning. I thought that's where they were going with manifestations of Jean in the White Hot Room talking to Logan through out the movie and the inclusion of Viper as poison expert... but no.
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I was hoping for that as well. I thought that's where they going when Viper poisoned her. The thing with the claws was ridiculous as admantium should not be able to cut through adamantium, even if it's heated

The extra scene was pretty good. I can't wait for the X-men movie.

Seems Fox has some strange idea about adamantium.....

Adamantium can destroy adamantium or something along those lines.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Seems Fox has some strange idea about adamantium.....

Adamantium can destroy adamantium or something along those lines.

Only when

Spoiler:
heated to an unspecified temperature.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It is.

My friends all like it though. /shrug

I thought it was pretty good. Boxoffice is hard to figure out sometimes. I think it was better than Iron Man 3 but IM3 made a ton more money. Changing of the tides I do imagine.

Movie was avarage at best.

This movie probably won't do all that great in the states but overseas it should do rather well.

This movie was enjoyable. But, yeah, it suffered from too much deviation from source materials. There were too many changes for my liking. The Silver Samurai and Viper were the most disappointing with such drastic changes.

I'll say this, the character relationships and development were the best parts of this movie. The action was good, but no way compares to the character developments.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Only when
Spoiler:
heated to an unspecified temperature.
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Or charged with strange energy.Cause I remember Wolverine getting shot in the head with an adamantium bullet in XO;Wolverine.Yet the bullet didn't penetrate his adamantium coated skull.Although yes it gave Wolverine amnesia.