Z vs Vegeto

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Any of the calcs I've posted. Like the speed one. Hell, you're still trying to argue that Vegeta was as big as a mountain, just to try and make a feasible argument to my calcs.

"It's not far."
- Goku.

Ah, my bad. It's been a while since I've read that specific part.

Anyway, Porunga wasn't summoned until Frieza was half-way there, and he still saw Porunga. Again, still waiting for you to prove that Vegeta is mountain sized to support your argument.

"It's not far."
- Goku.

How does Cell win? By moving hilariously faster than Z and vaporizing him with attacks that he couldn't dream of tanking. Cell said he could destroy the solar system with a kamehameha wave. In case you didn't know, kamehameha is the third most powerful technique in DBZ because it's so condensed in a such a small AOE. If Cell used the attack Frieza did on Planet Vegeta, he could easily make an AOE much larger than Z. Again though, he would simply vaporize him with an instant kamehameha.

A single solar system?

That's cute.

Z casually survived the destruction of hundreds of thousand of them.

Oh, and Tokimi acknowledges that she'd have to destroy the universe (Something she is unwilling to do) to kill Z. Which is backed up by another LHW user surviving the destruction of the universe, apparently, but it doesn't really matter. Surviving a big chunk of the galaxy being vaporized is better than what any DBZ character dishes out. 👆

Except arguably Bills. Still not sure if that was a translation error.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Z was right there, IIRC. He didn't do it, he survived it though.

Durability Feat, not power feat. Impressive though. I think Z can withstand many of the energy attack in DBZ, aside from the obvious ones like Galactic Super Spirit Bomb, but even then he could dodge that.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Durability Feat, not power feat. Impressive though. I think Z can withstand many of the energy attack in DBZ, aside from the obvious ones like Galactic Super Spirit Bomb, but even then he could dodge that.

Vegeto's best attack wouldn't faze someone who survived that.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"It's not far."
- Goku.

It was Namek Saga anyway. They don't even measure up to Z or Vegito.

It's the basis Gogo is using for his silly little calculation.

It's also false.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I didn't say it was a power feat.

Vegeto's best attack wouldn't faze someone who survived that.

Vegito is supposedly stronger then Gogeta who use an attack that destroyed a being who was made of literally all the evil in the universe that had ever died. A being who brought down the walls of the universe and let the dead walk among the living just by existing. Vegito don't do Area of effect, he does multi-universal magic beings.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's the basis Gogo is using for his silly little calculation.

It's also false.

False or not. I did the calculation, if he was on the other side of planet he'd need to be Super Saiyan Three and he'd still be just slower then light. So it don't matter. The feat doesn't help at all. Gogo. Z is very strong and has 5 LHW, Fusion Characters are the only thing I see beating him.

Gogeta is not actually a canon character though (At least, the one that appeared in the Janemba movie).

I think the Gogeta Character is canon, but the movie isn't. I that makes nay sense.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Z was right there, IIRC. He didn't do it, he survived it though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"It's not far."
- Goku.

"It's not far."
- Goku.

A single solar system?

That's cute.

Z casually survived the destruction of hundreds of thousand of them.

Oh, and Tokimi acknowledges that she'd have to destroy the universe (Something she is unwilling to do) to kill Z. Which is backed up by another LHW user surviving the destruction of the universe, apparently, but it doesn't really matter. Surviving a big chunk of the galaxy being vaporized is better than what any DBZ character dishes out. 👆

Except arguably Bills. Still not sure if that was a translation error.

It wouldn't be far to me either, if I had run across a million kilometers before when I was incomparably slower and weaker. 👆

Shit, I was gonna post it, but Astner beat me to it. "Right, because Tokimi saved him. It's by no means a suggestive of Z's durability by any stretch of the imagination.".

In your words though, that's "cute", considering Z's best destruction feat is destroying 3/4ths of the moon. 👆

Originally posted by Astner
Right, because Tokimi saved him.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
It wouldn't be far to me either, if I had run across a million kilometers before when I was incomparably slower and weaker. 👆

So "It's not far" means "It is literally as far as could be possible while still remaining on the planet".

I don't really think you're stupid, but you are surely intellectually dishonest.

Shit, I was gonna post it, but Astner beat me to it. "Right, because Tokimi saved him. It's by no means a suggestive of Z's durability by any stretch of the imagination.".

In your words though, that's "cute", considering Z's best destruction feat is destroying 3/4ths of the moon. 👆

He doesn't need to destroy him through conventional means though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Got a clip? Muyo aired when I was a young little guy.

YouTube video

Originally posted by NemeBro
So "It's not far" means "It is literally as far as could be possible while still remaining on the planet".

I don't really think you're stupid, but you are surely intellectually dishonest.

He doesn't need to destroy him through conventional means though.

Basically. If you were in your house, and your phone was a few rooms away, is that really far to you? No, because you travel that distance casually like 99.999% of humans. To a bug like a spider though? That's a multi-day trip. It's simply the difference of perception. Goku can travel, and has traveled, infinitely more than that in short periods of time, leading me to believe that he meant it wasn't far compared to other distances he's traveled.

Thanks, I think. Again though, it's just a matter of perspective. I'm respecting your point of view on the subject, and am only asking that you show the same respect to at least humor mine.

Through what means could he destroy him? I honestly don't watch Tenchi Muyo, and haven't seen very much of it, so I will admit that I may be a little ignorant on some of their abilities.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
To a bug like a spider though? That's a multi-day trip.

I wish the spiders in Australia were that slow.

This just in, it takes a spider multiple days to traverse rooms in a house.

If anybody im dbz is lightspeed they would make every destination they needed to get to in less than a second.

Ive yet to see this barring instant transmission

Originally posted by chasedown
If anybody im dbz is lightspeed they would make every destination they needed to get to in less than a second.

Ive yet to see this barring instant transmission

This comment proves you to be a retard.

First off, IT =/= Light speed. It is instantaneous, as in teleportation, or no-lapse-of-time from using the technique to appearing, as in literally existing in two places at one timeless point in space.

Secondly, what fun would it be to watch DBZ if all you saw was a few random explosions and giant beams instantly flying from out of nowhere? If you can't understand that fiction is depicted from multiple different POV's to give a better understanding of what happened, then you're just an idiot.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
This just in, it takes a spider multiple days to traverse rooms in a house.

It is for some. I obviously wasn't talking about a giant tarantula or something like that. I just meant a common house spider that's about the size of a baby's finger nail.