Yes, talk about me as if I'm not going to be reading your remarks. My logic is not faulty, and I still disagree that you can't make comparisons. You still have yet to make one reasonable argument on that thread on SWF and the Mewtwo argument had little to do with you.
And now all you are doing is taking credit for someone else' work by saying it was a learning experience for me. Well, guess what, it's not the first time I've actually gotten to debate with intelligent people. You say I was uncivil, but I didn't repost the same illogical statement over and over again about how my character is super strong though that theory was tested and proven wrong. I did not tell people they were wrong in the face of surmountable evidence that proved otherwise. I did not bend and flex the rules as to give myself a leg up in the debate.
Yes, I make personal attacks, but I don't see a problem with saying someone who is being an impossible idiot is an idiot. The reason why I have been without abrasive language is because:
-This is a new forum where I have no reputation
-I don't know exactly where the line is drawn, so I don't want to go near it
-No one has made remarks about me personally
So stop being arrogant before I even write up an appropriate response to that person's work whom you think "taught" me something.
I sleep from 6-3, do some house work until 4, then go to work until 10, come home and shower and w/e, and then I'm on the internet until 6am again. Because I have yet to answer does not mean I have conceded my argument, and I wish that you wouldn't treat it as such.
So, I'll be back somewhere around 11pm or later to have a debate around someone who actually has decided to bring evidence, proof that can be challenged, instead of arguing nonsense. And, as I said before, thank you for doing so.
I'll be back.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He's not counting feats from the movies, even though they're canon.
The rules are that if it is not in the game, it is not legal to use. By the same token, I am not allowed to use the Metroid Manga as legal proof in my debates with Samus, though I would like to. If we went with anime's, Falcon Punch would be dumb, Mewtwo would be dumb, Ganon would still be dumb, etc. It would be a pointless argument that really would dissolve into nothing more than fanboys screeming about what happens on fram 189930 of such-and-such obscure movie that proves his guy can be seen surviving a rock landing on him.
We aren't going to do that. We haven't done that. People who try it have been set straight. If this is not how you do things here, I'm sorry, but it's not how we do it and I'm not going to change that rule that we've held "sacred" for almost 2 years now.
Anyway, before I leave for work, I wanted to ask some things. Embargo says it causes the pokemon to drop whatever item they are holding so they can't use it. Can you detail exactly what that would mean for Samus? In Metroid Prime 2 there was an attack that hacked into her suit and shut it down. She was able to re-boot the suit system and restore it in response. Would such a thing be valid to use?
Secondly, would there be time to respond to defense swap by intentionally turning off the suit upgrades to lower her defense before the move "hit?" (Ala Super Metroid's inventory system) This way he either gets hindered by the move OR just doesn't get as big of a bonus as he would.
Anyway... oh crap I'm going to be late.
Some KMC members are jerks. If you have a dislike for it already, you should leave right away. You have seen nothing yet.
I will of course add that Falcon Punch in the anime is a lose-lose situation. Since Captain Falcon died using it, in the end it does not really matter if his enemy survives. Stalemate at best, or Captain Falcon loss at worst. A suicide attack pretty much defeats the purpose of a versus.
Defense Swap switches the current defense of the target. It doesn't really matter if she turn systems of since she won't be gaining anything by doing so. Especially since her gear is disabled next (Embargo). She'll still be as vulnerable when he strike. The true strategy with that move is not to heighten the defense of Mewtwo but rather to reduce hers.
Originally posted by Rapidash
Some KMC members are jerks. If you have a dislike for it already, you should leave right away. You have seen nothing yet.I will of course add that Falcon Punch in the anime is a lose-lose situation. Since Captain Falcon died using it, in the end it does not really matter if his enemy survives. Stalemate at best, or Captain Falcon loss at worst. A suicide attack pretty much defeats the purpose of a versus.
Where did Falcon come into this?
Ok, so the guard swap... I really don't have a remark for that. Unless the invincibility from screw attack or speed boosting somehow by-passed it, then I don't think she has anything to stop it. And really don't think those two moves would do it either. My question to this is how long does it last and, if not indefinitely, then I still want to know if she could lower her own defenses temporarily in order to give him less of a defense, even if that is not what the intention is.
As for Embargo:
Your site won't allow me to post links yet, so please do this. Go to youtube and search for:
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: Part 97 (Watch Station)
Then skip to 1:45 so that you can see what I'm talking about.
What's happening- The enemy seen is called a Rezbit. It has an attack that sends a virus to her suit that funks everything up. In order to break out of it, you have to re-boot the system which eliminates that problem. I imagine that if Embargo did something similar to that (IE shutting down her system) then she would have to re-boot it to use it again. This of course takes a little time, but it's better than being completely without her suit.
Lastly, what do you mean by using the "Psychic" attack to 'put her where he wants her?' The move, as it has been shown to me, is just a sp. attack dealt through psychic powers and does not A) attack the brain directly B) mind control the opponent in anyway.
As for Samus, with what does Mewtwo answer the ice beam or the dark beam? How do pokemon react to freezing attacks and what can they do to break out.
Psychic is in the game described as Telekinesis. The English dictionary says the following about Telekinesis: The movement of objects by scientifically inexplicable means, as by the exercise of an occult power.
When I meant that he would put her where he wanted her, was that he would use telekinesis and move her, as it is scientificly described to do. There are of course other ability combinations that are at least as dangerous to Samus as this one I made here.
Revolving the ice beam and dark beam, those are both properties of Samus gear and weapons, meaning that for as long as Embargo is active, she has no use of them. Embago lasts for the duration of the fight. Once it is applied, it's not going away.
The canon is all official (and thus undeniable) information within the Pokémon franchise. This includes characters, locations, events, and all aspects of the Pokémon universe.
As opposed to other works of fiction, Pokémon canon does not always overlap within the different works. Each universe has its own depiction of the Pokémon world.The canons can differ to different degrees. For example, the Gym Leader Misty has similar basis but each work gives her a different spin; in the anime, she is very caring and supportive but can be mean at times; she is powerful and flirtatious in the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga; and in the games, she is considered a tomboy. Although it isn't to say that none of these attributes can coexist, it would be difficult to simplify all the different interpretations into a single, unified series.
Within different contexts, one work can influence another. Generally, the starting point for all characters begins with the games and the original Sugimori game art. For this reason, the games can take precedence when there is a conflict within a single work, or when there is nothing said about a certain topic within the work. Similarly, the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga is very loosely based on the anime, which is in turn loosely based on the games.
In nearly all cases, the original Japanese version of any particular work is canon over any foreign-language translation (including English). Furthermore, any work that is not based in Japan (and thus not under the general direction of Tsunekaz Ishihara) is generally considered non-canon (Pokémon Live!, for example).
Some aspects are present in all works, but usually only when the scope is very broad. For example, the notion that people called Pokémon Trainers battle creatures called Pokémon is canon in all works. Canon diverges slightly into different universes when one must specify the ultimate goal for trainers (generally a Pokémon Master, but its definition is open to interpretation within different contexts). Canon may diverge further when it comes to increasingly specific details, such as how exactly a Trainer utilizes a Poké Ball or TM.
According to Satoshi Tajiri, the Pokémon Special manga is the closest to the world he was trying to convey.
However: Almost all kinds of shipping are considered fanon - i.e. non-canon.
There is more on canon if you want.