Darth Maul and Darth Bane vs Mace Windu, Qui-Gon, and Rahm Kota

Here's the quote.

The Sith Lord was borne backward by the Jedi Knight's initial rush, caught off guard by the other's wild assault, and pressed all the way back to the far wall of the melting pit. There he struggled to keep the young Jedi at bay, trying to open enough space between them to defend himself. Lightsabers scraped and grated against each other, and the chamber echoed with their fury. Lunging and twisting, Darth Maul regained the offensive and counterattacked, using both ends of his lightsaber in an effort to cut Obi-Wan's legs out from under him. But Obi-Wan, while not so experienced as Qui-Gon, was quicker. Anticipating each blow, he was able to elude his antagonist's efforts to bring him down.

no, the quote where maul dies.

Originally posted by truejedi
no, the quote where maul dies.

Then Obi-Wan turned, thumbed his saber off, and watched his dying enemy tumble away into the pit.
Happy now?

yep, thank you! i wasn't trying to be a jerk about it, i seriously don't have the quote myself.

I think that helps me though. It sounds more like a speed rush than a mistake by Maul.

Originally posted by truejedi
can you please give me the quote from TPM of maul's death?

Without it, we have to assume the same unnarrated thing happens to maul that happened to fisto, Saesee and Agen. Speed rush!

The difference being that those three had their guards up and did not have Palpatine at their mercy. Maul let his guard down and didn't finish the job when he had the chance while Kenobi was vulnerable.

Originally posted by truejedi
It sounds more like a speed rush than a mistake by Maul.

Maul's mistake was "savoring the moment" rather than killing Kenobi at once.

Plus he was only able to "savor the moment" because of a convieniently-placed nozzle. Without that, Kenobi would have fallen to his death.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
The difference being that those three had their guards up and did not have Palpatine at their mercy. Maul let his guard down and didn't finish the job when he had the chance while Kenobi was vulnerable.

Maul's mistake was "savoring the moment" rather than killing Kenobi at once.

Plus he was only able to "savor the moment" because of a convieniently-placed nozzle. Without that, Kenobi would have fallen to his death.

agreed. Maul beat kenobi in combat. Then kenobi went deep into the force and was able to speed rush Maul. Agreed that it wasn't quite as impressive as palpatine, because the other jedi were expecting an attack, and were on their guard, but those two elements aside, Kenobi, according to the quote above, acted quicker than Maul could react to.

Well, Maul kills Qui-Gon, Bane kills Kota and then Bane and Maul against Windu....Windu and Bane are pretty even so with Maul added in, I think that Mace is probably going to lose

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Well, Maul kills Qui-Gon, Bane kills Kota and then Bane and Maul against Windu....Windu and Bane are pretty even so with Maul added in, I think that Mace is probably going to lose

mace is just watching while these initial killing go on?

Plus in an Open area I don't think Mauls going to kill Qui Gon as quickly you suggest, if at all.

He would eventually, unless Qui-Gon's got Batman-esque time on his side to prepare something. Youth, stamina, and aggression plays against him.

Mace and Qui Gonn Kill maul while bane kills Kota. The i think Mace and Qui-Gonn could Bane.

I dunno, I see Bane pimp-slapping Kota faster than Maul falls to the duo.

It depends on who attacks who . Maul would probably go defensive in a Bane vs Mace and Maul Vs Kota and Kenobi scenario, Maul'd probably keep them seperated like in ep 1 where he kept on flicking Kenobi away while he played with Qui gon .Bane would kill Mace {with some effort } than assist Maul

Originally posted by truejedi
mace is just watching while these initial killing go on?

Originally posted by Morgromir
isnt that what he did in Ep 3 ?

against sidious, who was using force-aided speed. Would you like to compare Bane and Maul to sidious now?

lol no,im just saying it looked like he was waiting for everyone else to kill him

against sidious, who was using force-aided speed. Would you like to compare Bane and Maul to sidious now?

I would, considering Bane does more or less the same thing Sidious does in ROT (and would have suceeded if not for the Battle meditation).

Well he didn't exactly blitz them like Sidious. Sidious could be compared to a flaming arrow aimed at their hearts. Bane would be a mach truck hurtling towards them.

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Originally posted by mattatom
Plus in an Open area I don't think Mauls going to kill Qui Gon as quickly you suggest, if at all.

Maul would mop the floor with Qui-Gon in any setting. During the ambush on Tatooine, using only one edge of his blade, Maul leaves Qui-Gon just short of a heart attack. Jinn is severely outmatched during the fight and he even states that the Dark Lord was only testing him. This matches up with what we see in the final duel, where Qui-Gon - fighting with everything he's got - loses within thirty seconds. How is "openness" in any way relevant? If you're suggesting Ataru is limited in such a place, then prove it. Then prove Qui-Gon was hindered any more than Maul was considering: Maul uses more acrobatics than Jinn, his double-bladed lightsaber spans twice the size of Jinn's lightsaber, and Qui-Gon doesn't even use the traditional acrobatics of Ataru.