Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
Just curious here but most people seem to keep saying kyp is a force beast and titan. Can anyone give me some feats or exploits that kyp has done? Because I don't recall him doing anything special in DN, LOTF, or anything in FOTJ so far.
You should recall him being able to duplicate Luke Skywalker's feat of manipulating a dovin basal.
Kyps power increased alot with Kuns spirit I remember that in the JA books.
either way you guys are saying kyp is a force titan for manipulating a dovin basal and pulling the suncrusher out of the gas giant yavin with the aid of Kuns spirit. And even though you didn;t mention it Luke said Kyp has more potential than he does(I dunno if that was retconed or not).
That's not nearly enough evidence IMO to call someone a force titan or a beast with the force.
I'm not trying to burt anyones bubble it's just I want to know what he's done exactly because as far as i've read he hsn't done anything THAt awesome aside from the dovin basal thing.
1. Neb, a quark is (theoretically, they haven't found proof yet so it was scientific modesty to add the qualifier) considered an indivisible unit of matter.
2. Black holes and microblackholes:
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In general relativity, a black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing, including light, can escape its pull.
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This smallest mass for a black hole is thus approximately the Planck mass, which is about 2 × 10−8 kg (0.02 mg) or 1.2 × 1019 GeV/c2.
To put it simply, a black hole is an area that nothing can get away from. Naturally, this implies that it has a very large gravitational pull.
But.
To make a black hole, one must concentrate mass or energy sufficiently that the escape velocity from the region in which it is concentrated exceeds the speed of light.
There are objections to this that span many levels of scientific awareness- from the argument that if it could've happened it would've already (since they're just re-creating conditions in the upper atmosphere) to the idea that any black hole they create will have the gravity of the two protons they collided (my personal favorite) to the high end math suggesting that Hawking radiation (or some other factor involving dimensions?) precludes such an event. So CERN is cool.
But I digress.
Black holes as they are presented in the NJO- that is, black holes able to rapidly change the course of a starfighter sized object and suck ships into their event horizon, to say nothing of blaster shots, would have to have immensely powerful gravitational fields. As in, many thousands greater than Earth.
Kyp moved an object with a mass many times greater than Earth. This puts his TK feat above N and above Luke and above Sidious and, lord forgive me, far above Yoda and Mace. I'm not entirely sure that you comprehend the immensity of the feat. We'll try this:
There is a passage (vaguely recalled, a source would be nice?) in which a Republic starfighter intersects a black hole. The entire ship is consumed. The entire ship, easily capable of withstanding the gees present in high speed space combat, to say nothing of a planet's gravity was pulled in within seconds (or else the ship would've kept sailing past the black hole). This means that (that hole, at least) would have to have a gravity well capable of exerting force greater than a planet's gravity.
Kyp could've moved the moon that Bane did with his eyes closed and his hands tied behind his back. But he didn't. He moved the planet he was on instead.
Edit: If anyone needs proof that Luke is a Force GOD then think of this: the black hole at the center of the galaxy that he is compared to? That is a super massive black hole, many millions of times greater than the ones Kyp was struggling with. Also (in case that was poetic license) Luke used the trick several times in a row during... TFU? Kyp was only able to do one at a time.
Edit: If anyone needs proof that Luke is a Force GOD then think of this: the black hole at the center of the galaxy that he is compared to? That is a super massive black hole, many millions of times greater than the ones Kyp was struggling with. Also (in case that was poetic license) Luke used the trick several times in a row during... TFU? Kyp was only able to do one at a time.
Also #2: Didn't Jaina do it? And Leia? That makes me sad on the outside.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
1. Neb, a quark is (theoretically, they haven't found proof yet so it was scientific modesty to add the qualifier) considered an indivisible unit of matter.2. Black holes and microblackholes:
To put it simply, a black hole is an area that nothing can get away from. Naturally, this implies that it has a very large gravitational pull.
But.
This is why the good folks at CERN were given so much grief. There was concern that the normal operation would give rise to a stable microblack hole able to interact with the earth in such a way as to destroy it. They thought we were gonna get eaten.
There are objections to this that span many levels of scientific awareness- from the argument that if it could've happened it would've already (since they're just re-creating conditions in the upper atmosphere) to the idea that any black hole they create will have the gravity of the two protons they collided (my personal favorite) to the high end math suggesting that Hawking radiation (or some other factor involving dimensions?) precludes such an event. So CERN is cool.
But I digress.
Black holes as they are presented in the NJO- that is, black holes able to rapidly change the course of a starfighter sized object and suck ships into their event horizon, to say nothing of blaster shots, would have to have immensely powerful gravitational fields. As in, many thousands greater than Earth.
[b]Kyp moved an object with a mass many times greater than Earth
. This puts his TK feat above N and above Luke and above Sidious and, lord forgive me, far above Yoda and Mace. I'm not entirely sure that you comprehend the immensity of the feat. We'll try this:There is a passage (vaguely recalled, a source would be nice?) in which a Republic starfighter intersects a black hole. The entire ship is consumed. The entire ship, easily capable of withstanding the gees present in high speed space combat, to say nothing of a planet's gravity was pulled in within seconds (or else the ship would've kept sailing past the black hole). This means that (that hole, at least) would have to have a gravity well capable of exerting force greater than a planet's gravity.
Kyp could've moved the moon that Bane did with his eyes closed and his hands tied behind his back. But he didn't. He moved the planet he was on instead.
Edit: If anyone needs proof that Luke is a Force GOD then think of this: the black hole at the center of the galaxy that he is compared to? That is a super massive black hole, many millions of times greater than the ones Kyp was struggling with. Also (in case that was poetic license) Luke used the trick several times in a row during... TFU? Kyp was only able to do one at a time. [/B]
He manipulated an artificial micro black hole once?
don't get me wrong it's impressive but you are using this one feat to infer he is awesome with everything else in the force and that's not always true, for example the horn family can be very strong in the force but he BLOWS at TK and is awesome at illusions.
Honestly I don't mean to argue i just want to know what else he has done aside from his one claim to force using fame.
aside from his one claim to force using fame.