Havok vs Blackbolt

Started by Peterlane5 pages

Whenever Gladiator and Surfer meet don't they stalemate?

Originally posted by Blanket
Yes, so let's use high showings instead. amirite carv?

Yet he was weaker then he is now. Point.

If you insist
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/UncannyX-Men-107_14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/UncannyX-Men-107_15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/owned/UncannyX-Men-107_18.jpg

So, doesn't that show how we shouldn't put much support in statements? Since well, you know, he isn't the most powerful anything in the universe.

Maybe, but overrated if you start comparing them to Surfer.

I'm going to show you two things that makes that a low showing.
http://img358.imageshack.us/i/silversurferv3082271ob.jpg/

Swimming through a 100 million wide star undamaged.

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1434/gladiatornuclearinferno2uc.jpg

I love this, showing gladiator emitting cosmic energy.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2195/gladiatorvssilversurfer029iz.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to show you two things that makes that a low showing.
http://img358.imageshack.us/i/silversurferv3082271ob.jpg/

Swimming through a 100 million wide star undamaged.

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1434/gladiatornuclearinferno2uc.jpg

I love this, showing gladiator emitting cosmic energy.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2195/gladiatorvssilversurfer029iz.jpg

Point = over your head

Also, the last scan is not even close to canon.

Originally posted by Blanket
Point = over your head

Also, the last scan is not even close to canon.

WHy not?

Originally posted by Peterlane
WHy not?
Because everything about it was a different universe?

Originally posted by Peterlane
WHy not?

Because it's from Marvel Adventures, and that series isn't canon to 616.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because it's from Marvel Adventures, and that series isn't canon to 616.

Thanks for explaining

Originally posted by Peterlane
Havok could counter a whisper with solar energy.

Right because, you can counter a wide spread, electron/particle interaction with a solar based energy blast.....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Right because, you can counter a wide spread, electron/particle interaction with a solar based energy blast.....

If he unleases alot of it I dont see why not.

Originally posted by Peterlane
If he unleases alot of it I dont see why not.

Exactly how would he be able to stop an attack of such magnitude, and an attack based on particle/electron interaction, by releasing a lot of energy at random? His efforts would be better served trying to form something akin to a force field, but I don't think that would do him too much good, seeing what Black Bolt's voice has been capable off.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Exactly how would he be able to stop an attack of such magnitude, and an attack based on particle/electron interaction, by releasing a lot of energy at random? His efforts would be better served trying to form something akin to a force field, but I don't think that would do him too much good, seeing what Black Bolt's voice has been capable off.

I wasn't talking about a scream, I was talking about a whisper. Sentry tanked a whisper just fine. I think a sun dipped Havok could, besides Solar energy isn't the only thing he can absorb.

Originally posted by Peterlane
I wasn't talking about a scream, I was talking about a whisper. Sentry tanked a whisper just fine. I think a sun dipped Havok could, besides Solar energy isn't the only thing he can absorb.

So what? A whisper, has ripped apart continents on the other side of the planet, and atomized an entire city(ies). He can annihilate half a word just by speaking. His voice depends on his emotional state, mainly anger from what I've seen. The angrier he gets, the more power he exerts.

When has Sentry ever taken Black Bolt's voice? Never happened.

When has a sun dipped Havok shown the durability needed to withstand such an attack?

I know that, but what does being able to absorb other types of energy have anything to do here?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So what? A whisper, has ripped apart continents on the other side of the planet, and atomized an entire city(ies). He can annihilate half a word just by speaking. His voice depends on his emotional state, mainly anger from what I've seen. The angrier he gets, the more power he exerts.

When has Sentry ever taken Black Bolt's voice? Never happened.

When has a sun dipped Havok shown the durability needed to withstand such an attack?

I know that, but what does being able to absorb other types of energy have anything to do here?

Sentry took BB voice in silent wars. He tanked a whisper.

Sundipped Havok has no durability feats because 1nce he amps himself up he owns.

Havok being able to absorb different types of energy means he could probable absorb some of the force of a whisper.

Originally posted by Peterlane
Sentry took BB voice in silent wars. He tanked a whisper.

Sundipped Havok has no durability feats because 1nce he amps himself up he owns.

Havok being able to absorb different types of energy means he could probable absorb some of the force of a whisper.

Barring the stupidity of that arc, as somehow Black Widow for heaven's sake somehow survived his whisper along with the other Avengers, and the whisper was portrayed like Banshee's sonic scream and not as his quasi-sonic scream, Sentry never tanked the scream in that fight. He didn't want to fight Black Bolt and stood out of the way as I recall. He never tanked it.

Although that showing would make sense if it was a Skrull. Was it a Skrull during that time?

facepalm

Nice logic there. It fails. He has no durability feats to suggest that he can tank a whisper.

When has Black Bolt's scream ever been absorbed by someone and when has Havok, shown the ability to absorb something akin to a particle/electron interaction. You made that up.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Barring the stupidity of that arc, as somehow Black Widow for heaven's sake somehow survived his whisper along with the other Avengers, and the whisper was portrayed like Banshee's sonic scream and not as his quasi-sonic scream, Sentry never tanked the scream in that fight. He didn't want to fight Black Bolt and stood out of the way as I recall. He never tanked it.

Although that showing would make sense if it was a Skrull. Was it a Skrull during that time?

facepalm

Nice logic there. It fails. He has no durability feats to suggest that he can tank a whisper.

When has Black Bolt's scream ever been absorbed by someone and when has Havok, shown the ability to absorb something akin to a particle/electron interaction. You made that up.

1. I never said Sentry tanked a scream, Find the quote where I said that
2. Havok absorbed the brunt on an electric/magnetic type blast by Vulcan, that would have killed him.
3. Again I am not talking about his scream I am talking about a WHISPER.

Originally posted by Peterlane
Sentry took BB voice in silent wars. He tanked a whisper.

Sundipped Havok has no durability feats because 1nce he amps himself up he owns.

Havok being able to absorb different types of energy means he could probable absorb some of the force of a whisper.

Havok lacks the durability to compete with Bolt. He's been knocked out by Gladiator and Darkhawk. Against Black Bolt, once BB's attacks connect Havok will be in trouble.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Havok lacks the durability to compete with Bolt. He's been knocked out by Gladiator and Darkhawk. Against Black Bolt, once BB's attacks connect Havok will be in trouble.

And BB has been knocked out by Gladiator aswell. Your point?

Originally posted by Peterlane
1. I never said Sentry tanked a scream, Find the quote where I said that
2. Havok absorbed the brunt on an electric/magnetic type blast by Vulcan, that would have killed him.
3. Again I am not talking about his scream I am talking about a WHISPER.

1. Nitpicking. I meant whisper and not scream. You should now that as in regards to the topic. Besides he never tanked a whisper either.
2. So what? It was an energy based attack. It doesn't mean he can do so against Black Bolt's "whisper".
3. Again I meant whisper. I'll be more specific.

BB stomps.

Originally posted by The Nuul
BB gets stomped.

I agree