Originally posted by Kris Blazehttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/IncredibleHulkV1340-16.jpg
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http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5117/newinamor4qf2.jpgIs this a loss for Wolverine?
you can't see the differences here? One individual recovers by the time his opponents shows up and get right up, the other does not recover untill his opponent stands on his buddy howelling in victory and then walks away, there a huge differences, if you can't see it there not point in debating with u further.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I was refferring to ironman suit.swalling tons of oil is much much worses then litle bit hititng his blood, that would put anyone down, if that was his version of krptonite he be dead. hell the scan even says it mental thing, says nothing about it being phsyical.
I completely calm, but you have yet to shown it his kryptonite even the scan you showed does not prove this, anyone swallowing a bunch of oil would be ****ed up.
Oh, the IM suit. Well, Tony's intellect is diminishing. He has to downgrade his armors so he can use them at all. All of that has been stated on panel. That hydro armor was pathetic. Great showing for Tony.
Heh, fair enough. I'm betting he was saved by his guards, though. There was plenty of them.
Why has Wolverine spilt that oil on his claw then? For fun?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Oh, the IM suit. Well, Tony's intellect is diminishing. He has to downgrade his armors so he can use them at all. All of that has been stated on panel. That hydro armor was pathetic. Great showing for Tony.Heh, fair enough. I'm betting he was saved by his guards, though. There was plenty of them.
Why has Wolverine spilt that oil on his claw then? For fun?
looked like the one he lent wolverine, when happen to tony intellect I havent been reading he recently.
I always though for more of a destraction and tp piss namor off.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Or maybe that incident portrayed him wrong? you ever think of that? no of course not you think what ever one shows Logan the is right, dispite the fact it one example against 3 were he was not effected. But of course you dont see it that was.I will take 3 examples to one any day of the week. but of course you focus on the low showing.
First, let me help you with your grammar. The low showing = singular. There are at least two incidents where Wolverine has been affected by a thunderclap. So I would be focusing on the low SHOWINGS, and not the low showing.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
It a dumb question it unbreakable by brute force, it can't won't happen so who cares.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
You know shit about wolverine and yet you constantly argue against him on this that if you actaully read his comic you know.I am not saying it does not effected him I am saying it not like his kryptonite, he not captian planet were is drastically weakens him like your pretending it does espcially such a small amount.
Don't know shit about him? I'm sorry, but doubting his ability to heal broken adamantium bones isn't akin to not knowing shit about him. It's more along the line of "does not worship Wolverine at his altar" and "does not pay male prostitutes to anally molest me while repeating bub and snikt" these are things you are guilty of, but not me. And not engaging in your sick obsessions does not make me ignorant.
The hell do you know about my knowledge concerning Wolverine? I have copies of his first comics stashed away at home and a shitload of V2. I don't memorize what takes place down to the spot in every god damned comic, but I still read more than enough wolverine comics. Have you ever touched a Thor or Namor comic? Ever flipped through one?
You seem to be living in denial here. Iron Man knocked out Namor by holding him in oil, and he was still in water, which empowers him! You're using the kryptonite analogy, but if Superman had a piece of kryptonite and was standing next to the sun, even he would last more than a couple of seconds.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
you can't see the differences here? One individual recovers by the time his opponents shows up and get right up, the other does not recover untill his opponent stands on his buddy howelling in victory and then walks away, there a huge differences, if you can't see it there not point in debating with u further.
Wolverine was knocked out longer than Hulk. Yet Hulk lost, and Wolverine did not? How on earth can you even try to justify this bullshit? What if Namor had simply walked away like Wolverine did against the Hulk? Wolverine would never even have caught up with him, the fight would've been over!
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
First, let me help you with your grammar. The low showing = singular. There are at least two incidents where Wolverine has been affected by a thunderclap. So I would be focusing on the low SHOWINGS, and not the low showing.http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3904/00021515yh1.jpg
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Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thor's broken adamantium before. Wolverine would snap like a fortune cookie.[QUOTE=12188016]Originally posted by Kris Blaze
[B]The hell do you know about my knowledge concerning Wolverine? I have copies of his first comics stashed away at home and a shitload of V2. I don't memorize what takes place down to the spot in every god damned comic, but I still read more than enough wolverine comics. Have you ever touched a Thor or Namor comic? Ever flipped through one?
I like to see him try, and was that not all reconnt to secondary adamatium? None of it was adamatium beta thats for sure.
You shown almost no knolwedge of him so you could have fooled me. I read thor, namor not as much asside from invaders runs. I read mostly thor when he was an avenger which I own every apearances, just becuase I dont debate him does not mean I don't read him.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
seem to be living in denial here. Iron Man knocked out Namor by holding him in oil, and he was still in water, which empowers him! You're using the kryptonite analogy, but if Superman had a piece of kryptonite and was standing next to the sun, even he would last more than a couple of seconds.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
looked like the one he lent wolverine, when happen to tony intellect I havent been reading he recently.I always though for more of a destraction and tp piss namor off.
He has no extremis thanks to that Skrull virus, but shield database remained untouched. Tony's got identity of every superhuman in his head. And Norman Osborn wants it. Since issue 9 Stark has been deleting the database, but the process diminishes his intellect. Dramatically. Hell, he had to switch to CRIMSON DYNAMO suit recently.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I notice u dident show the next scan were wolverien completely fine. it blasted him back by he was uninjuried, so actaully it 4 scans to 1, but of courses your going to then argue that all you ment was that it blast him back not that it damage his ears.
And like you can see if the annual, Wolverine stands still. He didn't even bunch an inch. Doesn't matter if it actually injures him, it should send him flying. Even She Hulk and Doc Samson are sent flying by thunderclaps. And it's not 4 against 1 scans of Wolverine being unphased.
It's 2 scans against 1 of him being phased, unless you're able to actually provide the scans that you claim exist.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I like to see him try, and was that not all reconnt to secondary adamatium? None of it was adamatium beta thats for sure.
Prove it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
You shown almost no knolwedge of him so you could have fooled me. I read thor, namor not as much asside from invaders runs. I read mostly thor when he was an avenger which I own every apearances, just becuase I dont debate him does not mean I don't read him.
Almost no knowledge? Where? Where? Please, where? When I claim that Wolverine cannot perform the most ambiguous feats of super healing which you in your raving fanboyism and lack of rational though take for granted? Or when I claim that when Wolverine is lying on the ground with his eyes closed, he is in fact unconscious? Or when I admit that Wolverine is not the god of the omniverse and the most awesome character ever? Which of these actions indicate such a great lack of knowledge regarding Wolverine? Please, specific incidents please.
You just proved a great lack of knowledge regarding Namor, claiming that oil had never been proven to affect him negatively.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
There was gallons and gallons of oil, he swallowed it, anyone would get dropped from that, you dont need some weakness, nior does that shot he ahs one, hell even the comment is one of mental not phsical by stark.
Mental weakness? how? Where did you see this? "and then you can screw up his head?" You think that Namor's reliance to water is imaginary? More ignorance? Yay. And gallons and gallons of oil? And he swallowed all of it? Wow! In like a second, Namor was able to chug down gallons and gallons of oil.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He has no extremis thanks to that Skrull virus, but shield database remained untouched. Tony's got identity of every superhuman in his head. And Norman Osborn wants it. Since issue 9 Stark has been deleting the database, but the process diminishes his intellect. Dramatically. Hell, he had to switch to CRIMSON DYNAMO suit recently.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
And like you can see if the annual, Wolverine stands still. He didn't even bunch an inch. Doesn't matter if it actually injures him, it should send him flying. Even She Hulk and Doc Samson are sent flying by thunderclaps. And it's not 4 against 1 scans of Wolverine being unphased.
actaully it is 4-1 of him being unhurt by the sonic attack. hell your evidence even cotrdicts eachother or did you miss the fact grey hulks thunder clap dident send wolverine any were?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
2 scans against 1 of him being phased, unless you're able to actually provide the scans that you claim exist.
there 3-4 to one showing he no hurt by the sonic attack
and there 3-4 to one showing he not thrown back by the attack.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
And like you can see if the annual, Wolverine stands still. He didn't even bunch an inch. Doesn't matter if it actually injures him, it should send him flying. Even She Hulk and Doc Samson are sent flying by thunderclaps. And it's not 4 against 1 scans of Wolverine being unphased.
actaully it is 4-1 of him being unhurt by the sonic attack. hell your evidence even cotrdicts eachother or did you miss the fact grey hulks thunder clap dident send wolverine any were?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
prove it.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You just proved a great lack of knowledge regarding Namor, claiming that oil had never been proven to affect him negatively.Mental weakness? how? Where did you see this? "and then you can screw up his head?" You think that Namor's reliance to water is imaginary? More ignorance? Yay. And gallons and gallons of oil? And he swallowed all of it? Wow! In like a second, Namor was able to chug down gallons and gallons of oil.
actaully what I said is it does not act like kryptonite for him nor does it effect him like captain planet.
I neevr said his reliance to water was imaginary, dont put word in my mouth, I said none of this. I said he dforce to breathin/drink oil which would mess anyone up, and is no comparable to waht wolverine did in the slightest.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
ecpt there not, were talking about the man who in his first apreances took out wendigo, the man in one if not his first solo run took out Ba'al, one of his first mini's took out tiger shark, back in the day in one of his first cross over took it to namor. There not being dumb down, he been doing it sinces day one.
Is it being argued that Wolverine would stand a chance against Thor if Thor fights him like a brick?
Wolverine would get ripped apart really. A hit from Thor, and Wolverine would be down. Thor could toss Wolverine out of the Solar System if he felt like it.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It wasn't supposed to impress you. I mentioned that because they did deliver damage to Wolverine. Mainly piercing damage. And that means he wasn't at 100% when he was fighting Black Dragon Squad.
Meh. Minor damages like that really wouldn't affect his performance in any significant way.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Is it being argued that Wolverine would stand a chance against Thor if Thor fights him like a brick?Wolverine would get ripped apart really. A hit from Thor, and Wolverine would be down. Thor could toss Wolverine out of the Solar System if he felt like it.
I dunno, I just find comic book martial arts as a whole to be bull****. I know I'm in the minority and people like fun stories and stuff over complete accuracy and it's all fantasy but it grates my nerves. The benefits that you gain from martial arts should really be based on your physical stats and drop off exponentially at some point. I mean, Thor and Herc are supposed to have good hand to hand skills, right? Where does it get them? It gets them Captain America beating them up because he has good hang to hand skills.
I don't mean just Thor and Herc but anyone with that kind of powerset.
