Originally posted by Creshosk
Well Ogun did have some weither mystical or mutant telepathy. Part of what allowed him mind control aside from putting his spirit into another body. Eitehr his original body was naturally resistant to injury or his training or mystical powers allowed him to take a sword thrust through his torso with no ill effects.
Originally posted by leonidas
are there actual sword feats on panel that SHOW how good drac is? and though they START with swords, drac doesn't NEED to use one. mist form, partially solidifying, and his mental attacks may help quite a bit. i think ogun has some pretty strong psi talents though, right? not sure how effective drac's tp would be against him, though they were sufficient to muddle the sufer . . .
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Ogun was good enough to posses jean grey (pheniox) for a time,
that's pretty impressive.
so, without weather manip (he probably couldn't summon a storm in a cell anyway) and we'll say the mental stuff cancels each other, using his ability to partially solidfy and shapechange (bat, rat, wolf) you think he could beat ogun? does ogun have a healing factor? has he ever used any powers in a battle aside from possession? (i really don't see it as possible for him to possess someone of drac's mental powers. 😬 )
Originally posted by Creshoskwouldn't that really only make sense if the same people who argue for blade, argue for dracula?
The necessitation of power and the chain of causation.It's like. Dracula has to be better than Ogun, because I'm guessing Blade beat Dracula in swordsman ship.
So that sets up a reasoning of
Blade>Dracula>Ogun>Black Knight>Wolverine
Allowing a favorite character to be supreme...
I've noticed that people other than white people tend to favor characters of their own ethnicity. Not because its a cool character who happens to be that ethnicity, but they like they character primarily because of the same ethnicity. It allows for a better "Identification" with said character and better displacement into the suspension of disbelief in the comics.
Its part of a basic human trait to seek out a sameness to better ensure ones own chances of survival.
Fascinating really
Originally posted by Survivor19
Ogun is basically a spirit now, so he just uses body he is posessing.
Since it was specified bt you that if he doesn't have current body (and he has not) he is using cap's, he is using cap's.
Cap's body has no healing factor.
does not matter, Ogun grants the individual he posses his own powers, which include form of healing/damage resistance's.
Originally posted by leonidas
that's pretty impressive.so, without weather manip (he probably couldn't summon a storm in a cell anyway) and we'll say the mental stuff cancels each other, using his ability to partially solidfy and shapechange (bat, rat, wolf) you think he could beat ogun? does ogun have a healing factor? has he ever used any powers in a battle aside from possession? (i really don't see it as possible for him to possess someone of drac's mental powers. 😬 )
Not sure, Ogun shown teleportation, ability to take stabbs/damage with out him even noticing and even if his body dies he he remains un KO he just jumps to another. He never really failed to posses anyone, he normally can posses them even thoses with great mental defenses, just over time they can force him out. He shown abilities such as hypnotizing other with but a touch of his sword as well as taking individuals to the shadow real, he been able to control technological devices as well.
Originally posted by TrackzThey have been.
wouldn't that really only make sense if the same people who argue for blade, argue for dracula?
Originally posted by iceman24567
Ask Blade if Dracula is a swordsman then if you don't believe us, wiki or Marvel.com 😬
Originally posted by iceman24567
If Blade uses those weapons i don't see how Sabretooth can win a majority.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
See Captain Britain and Mi:13, he{Dracula} tools Black Knight with a sword.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont think you can prove hes skilled as Blade in h2h or Sabretooths h2h is better than Blades weapon skill.Also if Blade can keep up with Spitfire hes gonna ahve no trouble with Sabretooth speed.
He also didnt have any trouble dealing with vamp Spidermans speed who would attack in a way similar to Sabretooth.
Originally posted by Trackz
dracula who blade has dealt with fine.
Originally posted by Trackz
then blade loadigng him with bullets (similar to deadpool) should weaken him enough for things like slashing the throat or dismembering him should hinder him right?i'm thinking blade wins this fight 6 or 7/10
Ogun grants the individual he posses his own powers, which include form of healing/damage resistance's
also is he using blok body
Could you provide series/numbers where technological device control and teleportation and such were ahown?
Or was it all during Kitty/Wolverine miniseries?
Originally posted by TrackzYOU for one thing.
who has been arguing for both?
Originally posted by iceman24567
Ask Blade if Dracula is a swordsman then if you don't believe us, wiki or Marvel.com 😬
Originally posted by iceman24567
If Blade uses those weapons i don't see how Sabretooth can win a majority.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
See Captain Britain and Mi:13, he{Dracula} tools Black Knight with a sword.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont think you can prove hes skilled as Blade in h2h or Sabretooths h2h is better than Blades weapon skill.Also if Blade can keep up with Spitfire hes gonna ahve no trouble with Sabretooth speed.
He also didnt have any trouble dealing with vamp Spidermans speed who would attack in a way similar to Sabretooth.
Originally posted by Trackz
dracula who blade has dealt with fine.
Originally posted by Trackz
then blade loadigng him{sabertooth} with bullets (similar to deadpool) should weaken him enough for things like slashing the throat or dismembering him should hinder him right?i'm thinking blade wins this fight 6 or 7/10
and I imagine that Snoop would argue for Dracula as well.
hahaha. Heres something I posted about this issue BEFORE this thread was created.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I still doesnt prove hes better than Drac. However there isnt enough evidence to prove Drac is better than Ogun. Unfortunately I dont have acces to scans for Drac vs Blade. Theres evidence that suggests that Drac could do similar stuff but Oguns showings show that he could probably tool Black Knight as well.
What is your point?