Dracula vs Ogun

Originally posted by Trackz
many things wrong with your theory

1. arguing for ogun would prove nothing seeing as i don't know anything about the character
2. just because one thinks dracula can beat someone, that doesn't automatically prove that they think blade can consequently beat him, perfect exampele would be survivor who is arguing for dracula i believe, but i doubt he thinks blade could handle ogun
3. you're wrong, you're basically telling pepole how they feel about a situation so it justifies your theory and output of the battle, basically if someone doesn't think ogun wins they're a blade fanboy, despite dracula being leagues above blade in terms of overall power, I might argue dracula could give apocalypse a fight, that doesn't mean I think blade could so much as phase apocalypse.

Hes also implying that black posters are biased because Blade is black...and since Dracula is a Blade villain its an indirect vote for Blade. 😉

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hes also implying that black posters are biased because Blade is black...and since Dracula is a Blade villain its an indirect vote for Blade. 😉

And its not just black people either.

Originally posted by Trackz
many things wrong with your theory

1. arguing for ogun would prove nothing seeing as i don't know anything about the character

Originally posted by Trackz
2. just because one thinks dracula can beat someone, that doesn't automatically prove that they think blade can consequently beat him,[]/b]

Originally posted by Trackz
[B] perfect exampele would be survivor who is arguing for dracula i believe, but i doubt he thinks blade could handle ogun

Originally posted by Trackz
3. you're wrong, you're basically telling pepole how they feel about a situation so it justifies your theory and output of the battle, basically if someone doesn't think ogun wins they're a blade fanboy,

Originally posted by Trackz
despite dracula being leagues above blade in terms of overall power,[]/b]

Originally posted by Trackz
[B] I might argue dracula could give apocalypse a fight, that doesn't mean I think blade could so much as phase apocalypse.

Vote for Ogun, or vote for dracula. Or ask questions that can be answered to help you arrive at a decision.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No I'm not. You got it backwards.

And its not just black people either.

I dont think so.

Originally posted by Creshosk
The necessitation of power and the chain of causation.

It's like. Dracula has to be better than Ogun, because I'm guessing Blade beat Dracula in swordsman ship.

So that sets up a reasoning of

Blade>Dracula>Ogun>Black Knight>Wolverine

Allowing a favorite character to be supreme...

I've noticed that people other than white people tend to favor characters of their own ethnicity. Not because its a cool character who happens to be that ethnicity, but they like they character primarily because of the same ethnicity. It allows for a better "Identification" with said character and better displacement into the suspension of disbelief in the comics.

Its part of a basic human trait to seek out a sameness to better ensure ones own chances of survival.

Fascinating really

Originally posted by Battlehammer
wow never even thought of it like that, but it true espcially in concern to blade fans.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And storm.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not in the slightest. it explains the motivations behind a poster pushing very hard for a given character to win. And why quite often they'll give a character a win regardless of who they're up against.

Had one guy openly start squawking about how people wouldn't let storm beat character like dark phoenix. Because apparently people were racist.

That was the direct reasoning they gave. Which was hilarious because they were trying to use the race card against GalacticStorm.

That was a more advanced form of it, but you can't say it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That the people who've been arguing for blade have been arguing for dracula.

Well anyway this at very least is incorrect.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No I'm not. You got it backwards.

And its not just black people either.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont think so.

*AHEM*

Had one guy openly start squawking about how people wouldn't let storm beat character like dark phoenix. Because apparently people were racist.

That was the direct reasoning they gave. Which was hilarious because they were trying to use the race card against GalacticStorm.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It would prove that you who do argue for blade don't argue for dracula... like you earlier stated.

You're familiar with how frequently people use ABC logic, right? Especially around here?

Survivor is prone to using ABC logic.
I never said that.

And then people STILL say that blade alrady beat dracula...

And I notice you're still dodging the issue.

Vote for Ogun, or vote for dracula. Or ask questions that can be answered to help you arrive at a decision.

THe primary reason you might see a blade fan arguing for dracula or vice-versa is because if you're knowledgeable on blade chances are you will be knowledgeable on dracula, same reason you'll see a wolverine fan arguing just as hard in a sabretooth or omega red topic, not to establish some type of hierarchy but because they are familiar with both of them.

Originally posted by Trackz
not saying thats what you meant, that was how your point came across though

Out of all the black people I know on here I don't think any of us vote for Blade or anything because of his race especially since his races isn't one of his defining characteristics. Fellow Negroes sign off, do you vote for black characters simply because they're black?

Originally posted by Trackz
ok if yo ucant see how your logic is flawed then i'm done.

THe primary reason you might see a blade fan arguing for dracula or vice-versa is because if you're knowledgeable on blade chances are you will be knowledgeable on dracula, same reason you'll see a wolverine fan arguing just as hard in a sabretooth or omega red topic, not to establish some type of hierarchy but because they are familiar with both of them.

You disprove your own point. 😆

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Out of all the black people I know on here I don't think any of us vote for Blade or anything because of his race especially since his races isn't one of his defining characteristics. Fellow Negroes sign off, do you vote for black characters simply because they're black?

But I've noticed... most of the storm fans are black. Most of the blade fans are black.

Why do you suppose that is?

Why do you suppose Storm was handed over to Hudlin?

Its not a bad thing mind you. its just something I noticed that supports that human survival instinct that every human has.

Most Storm fans overrate her and are idiots. I'm black and I don't flock to Storm or identify with her. Hudlin's an idiot and Marvel is pretty F'd up when it comes to races and minorities.

Blade is not a huge black character. If I were to write his character down on paper most wouldn't assume hey it's a black guy. The English heritage would also really throw that off. Have you asked the race of all of the Blade fans?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Most Storm fans overrate her and are idiots.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I'm black and I don't flock to Storm or identify with her. Hudlin's an idiot and Marvel is pretty F'd up when it comes to races and minorities.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Blade is not a huge black character. If I were to write his character down on paper most wouldn't assume hey it's a black guy. The English heritage would also really throw that off. Have you asked the race of all of the Blade fans?

Some people are better at ignoring that basic survival instinct. most people are largely unaware of it.

But there is nothing that really applies to everybody.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're not familiar with the mentality of the fans around here are you?
Then again , that's hilarious how hard you're arguing to neuter sabertooth in the other thread.

You disprove your own point. 😆

Well lets take KMC into account. Me, Mindset, Delph, and Iceman are black if I'm not mistaken. None of us flock to any of the Black characters, I myself only like Black Adam and Blade, Blade simply because you can't tell he's black. Panther is all "I don't need no help from whitey!" Cage is all "Yo dawg I'm from the Hood, represent!" Storm is just...yeah...

Trust me the majority of the black people online are not fans due to race. We have talks with each other and we know of each other.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because there are only ten black people on the internet and we all know each other, if we find out someone new is on we add them to our club.

Originally posted by Trackz
your point is that i would argue for dracula to beat another character just so i could bring that up again and say blade could beat the same character, have you noticed that point brought up in that thread at all?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well lets take KMC into account. Me, Mindset, Delph, and Iceman are black if I'm not mistaken. None of us flock to any of the Black characters,

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I myself only like Black Adam and Blade, Blade simply because you can't tell he's black. Panther is all "I don't need no help from whitey!" Cage is all "Yo dawg I'm from the Hood, represent!" Storm is just...yeah...[]/b]

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
[B]Trust me the majority of the black people online are not fans due to race. We have talks with each other and we know of each other.

Cause Who do I see arguing for blade the most? The same group of people, who all just happen to be black.

Same story with Storm. But again, I'm not saying that if you're black you have to like black characters. I'm saying most ogf the black characters fans happen to be black.

Its very important to keep that distinction.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's the way a lot of fans around here work. Why would it be irrational to think that people do that.. when they do that?

Galactic storm as well.. but as I pointed out iceman is also a blade fan. So swap him out for GS.

Ruined?

Coulda fooled me. as what obviously happened.

Cause Who do I see arguing for blade the most? The same group of people, who all just happen to be black.

Same story with Storm. But again, I'm not saying that if you're black you have to like black characters. I'm saying most ogf the black characters fans happen to be black.

Its very important to keep that distinction.

When was the last time GS was here?

Did Iceman say why he like Blade? If his race has anything to do with then that supports your argument. There are also a few nonblack people who like Storm and BP. Just a coincidence, not some subconscious race identification.

Did you see the quote from Mindset? Trust me...we know. 😈

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
When was the last time GS was here?[]/b]

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
[B]Did Iceman say why he like Blade?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If his race has anything to do with then that supports your argument.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
There are also a few nonblack people who like Storm and BP. Just a coincidence, not some subconscious race identification.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Did you see the quote from Mindset? Trust me...we know. 😈

Originally posted by Creshosk
Uh huh. You're just saying that because I predicted you would.

You want to argue for Dracula. You really really do... but you know that doing so would prove me right, and prove that there potential bias inherent in the system.

So the only way you can keep from doing that is to not do what you want to do.

Its win win for me, since I think Ogun wins this fight