Team Tourney Round 2 part 1

Ah, at least we agree on something.

Sorry to double post, cant edit my last one and its been a while since a post has been made, but after reading the Zelda wiki it seems Ganondorf did not even use the full triforce or its power, apprently a king touched it or something, whether your talking about a diffrent game than the one I was reading I dont know.

Furtheramore it seems Ganon does die and is defeated from being sliced in the head several times, first in the game i just mentioned (orcania? link in the past? I dont know theres a lot of LoZ games) he turned to stone when it hit into his head. In another one apprently he stood up for a while then dropped down dead.

Also Ganons Mind control was apprently more like possesion, he had to become twilight before he could enter Zelda's body, first I doubt he is quick enough to do this before Dante kills him (Dante can strikel spirits and such so Ganon being made of twilgiht will unlikely make a diffrence) and Sephiroth has incredible will-power on the level of not being able to die based on it, so I doubt he could be possessed in such a fashion.

Sorry to double post, cant edit my last one and its been a while since a post has been made, but after reading the Zelda wiki it seems Ganondorf did not even use the full triforce or its power, apprently a king touched it or something, whether your talking about a diffrent game than the one I was reading I dont know.

Furtheramore it seems Ganon does die and is defeated from being sliced in the head several times, first in the game i just mentioned (orcania? link in the past?

he turned to stone when it hit into his head.

In another one apprently he stood up for a while then dropped down dead.

Also Ganons Mind control was apprently more like possesion, he had to become twilight before he could enter Zelda's body, first I doubt he is quick enough to do this before Dante kills him (Dante can strikel spirits and such so Ganon being made of twilgiht will unlikely make a diffrence) and Sephiroth has incredible will-power on the level of not being able to die based on it, so I doubt he could be possessed in such a fashion.

There's a reason the Dante vs Ganon thread lasted 6 posts, and no one supported Dante.

Also, in aLttP, a game which you didn't meantion above at all, Ganon begins the game with the entire triforce, and has turned the sacred realm into the dark world. He's been imprisoned by Link's ancestor, who's also Link, in the imprisoning war, using the master sword. He's sealed away in the dark world, but this has as much effect on him as it did in WW... He breaks free, and Link's gotta go kick his ass. In this game, Link doesn't have the piece of the triforce he usually does to help him, and neither does Zelda. All Link has is the master sword, and silver arrows. In the end, he does finally 'kill', Ganon. But as aLttP is a prequel to LoZ, we know Ganon comes back.

How do we know Ganon's not dead in TP? Ganon is also in aLttP, and LoZ, which chronologicly come long after the events of TP which comes shortly after OoT, the first game.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is the end of the Wind Waker, and even without it, Ganon continues to talk while the sword's in his head.

I showed you this in a video, Ganon doesn't die, he just gets sealed away.

Eventually yeah, also at the end of the wind-waker, with no triforce of power. He'd come back from that, too, but the sword's left sticking in his freakin' head.

The end of Twilight princess, he never actually falls over, and there's nothing suggesting that he died aside from Zant's neck snapping and some speculation. Basicly; The ending of TP didn't make a whole lot of sense and the fans are confused about what happened. Ganon's triforce fades, Zant's neck snaps, and the wind blows. We never see Ganon fall over, but, given what we know about the sword, and that the triforce didn't actually /leave/ Ganon, to say Ganondorf's dead is assuming far too much.

You've been told it's possession, and the twilight particles are even more intangible than Kain's mist form =P So, have fun with that, furthermore, I cannot imagine Dante killing Ganon, ever.

There's a reason the Dante vs Ganon thread lasted 6 posts, and no one supported Dante.

Also, in aLttP, a game which you didn't meantion above at all, Ganon begins the game with the entire triforce, and has turned the sacred realm into the dark world. He's been imprisoned by Link's ancestor, who's also Link, in the imprisoning war, using the master sword. He's sealed away in the dark world, but this has as much effect on him as it did in WW... He breaks free, and Link's gotta go kick his ass. In this game, Link doesn't have the piece of the triforce he usually does to help him, and neither does Zelda. All Link has is the master sword, and silver arrows. In the end, he does finally 'kill', Ganon. But as aLttP is a prequel to LoZ, we know Ganon comes back.

How do we know Ganon's not dead in TP? Ganon is also in aLttP, and LoZ, which chronologicly come long after the events of TP which comes shortly after OoT, the first game.

It does not matter if he dies or not but based on what you stated, it seems like he did die if his triforce stops glowing and Zants neck snaps...who is I belive his accomplice empowered by ganon?

I would need information on this twilight, its not exactley a real substance such as mist, so i would need some information from a wiki or something at least stateing what it really is and does.

He may return as much as he likes, but getting turned to stone or defeated utterly is enough a defeat for a tourney. Especially by faster, stronger more powerful entities.

Can you show alttp information? a wiki or something to resolve what Ganon did with the full triforce? if hes already used his wish and did not use one to stop Link then its not much of a feat for the Mastersword.

It does not matter if he dies or not but based on what you stated, it seems like he did die if his triforce stops glowing and Zants neck snaps...who is I belive his accomplice empowered by ganon?

He may return as much as he likes, but getting turned to stone or defeated utterly is enough a defeat for a tourney. Especially by faster, stronger more powerful entities.

Can you show alttp information? a wiki or something to resolve what Ganon did with the full triforce? if hes already used his wish and did not use one to stop Link then its not much of a feat for the Mastersword.

With no piece of the triforce, Ganon could kill the gaurdian of the forest, which serves as a barrier to 'the outside' for all of Hyrule.

With one piece, he can levitate castles effortlessly, is unkillable, cannot be harmed by direct impact which creates enough force to level a castle with just the after-math, can take souls, possess enemies, bring down castles at will with TK, create life, tear holes in dimensions, bubble enemies, break free of a seal placed on him by the goddesses themselves, disintegrate beings with single strikes, disintegrate stone just the same. Ect for many, many paragraphs.

With all three, his power is pretty much unfathomable.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link killed Zant earlier in the game, but it was revealed he couldn't die as logn as Ganon powered him. Ganon gets weakened enough to shut down entirely = dead Zant.

Shame neither Dante nor Seph, nor any combination thereof, could ever achieve this. They'd need to use the master sword, and take away ganon's piece of the triforce, and niether of them can do either one of these things.

I don't think you understand how powerful he is in that state.

With no piece of the triforce, Ganon could kill the gaurdian of the forest, which serves as a barrier to 'the outside' for all of Hyrule.

With one piece, he can levitate castles effortlessly, is unkillable, cannot be harmed by direct impact which creates enough force to level a castle with just the after-math, can take souls, possess enemies, bring down castles at will with TK, create life, tear holes in dimensions, bubble enemies, break free of a seal placed on him by the goddesses themselves, disintegrate beings with single strikes, disintegrate stone just the same. Ect for many, many paragraphs.

With all three, his power is pretty much unfathomable.

Or more likely ganon is dead=no more power to Zant, dead Zant.

Who says they need to use the master sword? Ganons not shown any basic durability of an impressive level. Certainly not agaisnt either of these characters.

Why would I? youve not told me yet 😛 also list feats of what hes done in this powerful state, not what hes done without it please.

Is this gaurdian of the forest powerful in a fight however? what has it done?

I dont agree with the levitating of castles, unkillable, the direct impact one, souls? maybe, not sure if ive seen it. possesing fair enough, bring down castles with TK? not sure ive sen it. tear holes in dimensions? sort of a overhype of create a portal into one I imagine..disintegration on a sage is an unkown ,the characters themselves do not look physical to me, more like light and they look like little old men, so its unlikely their durable anyway.

So I assume by not stateing things he has done in this form hes not done anything impressive?

Every last one of Screampaste's staements are fact. Would you like me to elaborate on each?

Yes I would please

Does Dante get Yamato?

No, I told you it is not part of his basic equipment. Its more vergil equipment. If not Nero.

Dante and Sephiroth win. The best form of either one would stomp Link. Ganondorf is the only match but Dante has his "Jackpot" and his Fire Dragon. Sephiroth could do his best to hold him off.

I have a similiar view to Sin

So far its me, Sin and TGYDK voteing against Moocow,Screampaste and 5L?

Gumachi who do you vote for to win this?

Originally posted by Burning thought
No, I told you it is not part of his basic equipment. Its more vergil equipment. If not Nero.

It's still in his aresenal. Besides, SuperLuigi made the thread, not you. Maybe team 1 wins? Haven't decided yet (although i'm leaning towards Dante/Sephiroth side. At the most, Dante could beat Link)

NOTE: Dante is too fast for both Link and Ganon

Originally posted by Gumachi
It's still in his aresenal. Besides, SuperLuigi made the thread, not you. Maybe team 1 wins? Haven't decided yet (although i'm leaning towards Dante/Sephiroth side. At the most, Dante could beat Link)

NOTE: Dante is too fast for both Link and Ganon

No its not, he gives it to Nero....its never with him by the end of canon so Superluigi would have to make a special favour and give Dante someone elses weapon...

No he wouldn't. I don't think he has Sparda's sword, but it's used. Like I said, "IT'S STILL IN HIS ARSENAL".

Its not in your arsenal if its someone elses weapon, it would be like me saying the wraith blade is in Kains arsenal when its only Raziels weapon....Dante only holds Yamato for a while and shows a impressive feat with it, then he gives it to nero.

The BoO isn't Kratos weapon, nor is Athena Blades.

But he has it at the end of his games. Nero has Yamato at the end of DMC canon.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its not in your arsenal if its someone elses weapon.

unless you have it by the end of your series canon. You misunderstand what I said and you misunderstand what makes something someones weapon, certainly not who has their name on it.