Team Tourney Round 2 part 1

Started by SuperLuigi20 pages

kain can teleport and mewtwo and marek can tk him so that tk is useless statement is null and void

Where does this teleportation makes TK useless idea come from?

Also, Ganon can teleport too, and possess either one of them.

Honest to god, the idea that Sephiroth and Dante could beat Ganondorf AND Link is ridiculous. I know you guys might not like the Zelda characters, but come on. Recognize a god when you see it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And that speed will help him how? Sure, maybe he can land a few hits on someone before he gets TK'd, but then it's over, and he's not strong enough to do much before that.

Ganon can survive the mastersword through his brain, why would Rebellion be any different, even if Dante was strong enough to put it there?

Dante is faster than the speed of sound, I think. Also, can Ganon take some explosions? As for strength, Dante, at the most, can hold up to 325 tons, and when he shoots that at Ganon, that will be alot of pressure, I think. How can Link hurt Dante? (I guess I can understand Ganon -- but he can hurt Dante/Sephiroth).

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
2. Yamato/Rebellion/Masamune will not be even close to that effective on him.

Yamato devastates the mind, body, soul, and power.

Yamato might do that, but the Mastersword destroys evil and is powerful enough to overcome the entire triforce. It's anathema to Ganon, they are not, why would they be more effective when wielded by characters not as physicly powerful as Link?

Of course Link can hurt Sephiroth. Dante might be a little more questionable based on his standpoint, but the demonic powers are likely pretty evil. It's like Ghost Rider, evil powers, used for good.

Dante's regeneration can be worn down, and if he loses his head it's over.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yamato might do that, but the Mastersword destroys evil and is powerful enough to overcome the entire triforce. It's anathema to Ganon, they are not, why would they be more effective when wielded by characters not as physicly powerful as Link?

So you're saying Yamato won't hurt Ganon? Well, Dante is resistant to "instant-death" kills. If you go by his Shin Noctrune stats, which are canon, he is resistant to physical/magical attacks. Even if Ganon can't be hurt by Dante, his best bet at the most is Jackpot. Also, Sparda's Sword is created to destroy "evil" as well.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Dante's regeneration can be worn down, and if he loses his head it's over.

Yes, it can be, but, Capcom never stated how exactly it can be worn down. Besides, if he gets his "regen heart" from DMC2, he can regenerate alot of times (if he DTs). I think Devil Magic brings it down.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Before the castle falls in OoT (which he also tanks) Link has just defeated him in a one on one battle.

Getting chewed up by Leviathan is a impressive durable feat (which was his weakest incarnation): YouTube video

Ganon and Link takes this. Ganon with but a fraction of his power is able to escape the curse of the gods. He could lock either of these two in a magic crystal similar to what he did to Zelda. He can also turn immaterial and posses them. He was also shown to be able to evertlessly take down a castle. Also in WW KoRL claims only the Master Sword can defeat Ganon so quit spouting this No Limit Fallacy BS.

Dante kills immaterial beings (not saying he would kill Ganon).

Originally posted by ares834
Ganon and Link takes this. Ganon with but a fraction of his power is able to escape the curse of the gods. He could lock either of these two in a magic crystal similar to what he did to Zelda. He can also turn immaterial and posses them. He was also shown to be able to evertlessly take down a castle. Also in WW the King claims the only weapon capable of defeating Ganon is the Master Sword so quit spouting you no-limits fallacy BS.

Didn't Ganon escape without any of his power? I think the MS was the key to unlocking his power, and he had escaped before WW Link got the sword.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Then we have dante who carved through rock with ease with those armoured gautnelts and greaves (cant remember their names).

Gilgamesh. It also absorbs organic material and transforms it to steel making it stronger.

Originally posted by ares834
Also in WW KoRL claims only the Master Sword can defeat Ganon so quit spouting this No Limit Fallacy BS.

Whao, really? I think you should, yes.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Didn't Ganon escape without any of his power? I think the MS was the key to unlocking his power, and he had escaped before WW Link got the sword.

He had to have some power... Afterall he cast a curse that caused the entire great Sea to be in an everlasting night and rain.

The Sword was pinning down the bulk of his power, but he was still far weaker because the sword was all that was left of the seal placed on him by the gods.

Originally posted by TGYDK
>_< saying the asme statement over and over isnt how you win debates, ye know.

Its the same argument from before, my argument has not been touched or damaged so I may as well keep it as part of my statement. Just like the Link/Ganon fans will constantly state "castle fell on him!" and "MS is his weakness so his immune to everthing else!".

I think by now its obvious Link and Ganon lose, Dante and sephiroth are too fast, too varied and overall too powerful.

The Ganon and Link argument is based on speculation, assumption and faulty logic and a few no limit fallacies.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its the same argument from before, my argument has not been touched or damaged so I may as well keep it as part of my statement. Just like the Link/Ganon fans will constantly state "castle fell on him!" and "MS is his weakness so his immune to everthing else!".

I think by now its obvious Link and Ganon lose, Dante and sephiroth are too fast, too varied and overall too powerful.

The Ganon and Link argument is based on speculation, assumption and faulty logic and a few no limit fallacies.

No.

Play a Zelda game.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Honest to god, the idea that Sephiroth and Dante could beat Ganondorf AND Link is ridiculous. I know you guys might not like the Zelda characters, but come on. Recognize a god when you see it.

Just because people argue against them doesnt mean they dont like them (well, atleast in my case). Ive played and beaten majoras mask, oot and tp, and love all three of them. I just think that they will lose this fight.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No.

Play a Zelda game.


I agree with him, and like i said, ive played and beaten three of them.

And for the record, cannonically how strong is ganons tk? proof please?

He lifts and destroys entire castles.