Q'Anilia
Exiled Master Jedi
Originally posted by Burning thought
Limited mind? is that really a fact? also didnt Archimonde tear apart an adult dragon with TK? is it factually stated how much bigger aspects are in comparison to adult dragons in lore? In warcraft, standing next to alex shes not as big and certainly not much bigger than Onxyia and other large boss dragons.The legion certainly went through a fair amount to stop him from getting free, first they dont give him a body, then shove him into a block of ice (not just any ice, ice from the furthest reaches of the void), his lair is a savage and wild frozen land fairly remote compared to the rest of Azeroth and they left agents to make sure he would stay put. Then ofc theres the mental link that was supposed to stop LK betraying the legion. LK defeated all of these and they were certainly not happy, nor did they ever think it was possible, hell Kiljaeden even went to Illidan to directly destroy the frozen throne through the eye of Sarg, (a piece of sarg required is fairly impressive as well).
Why would you empower him as a punishment? its all part of their plan, the scourge was part of the plan of the legion after their failure with the orcs to take Azeroth..so he personally went in himself, never done this before and this makes the LK look weaker? heavens no, imo if he decides that the rest of Azeroth is not worthy of his presence and he can make do with lackeys yet he has to go in himself for the LK, damn he must be strong to be worthy of the atttension of someone so arrogant.
Hm, well when we know the level we can have a fairly valgue idea of which one is stronger than the other, since it is Blizzard who choose this information ofc, so they would decide who would be stronger by level at least.
An aspect dwarves the size of our common adult dragons. Korialstrasz, who is abnormally large for an adult dragon, was slapped around silly by the sheer size of Deathwing when they fought. Deathwing was able to with his paw alone topple another adult dragon, and take a third out with a whip of his tail alone.
Neltharion in lore is compared to a mountain in terms of size, which while hyped, says a lot about how large he actually is.
How the dragons appear in World of Warcraft, you should know is not on an accurate scale. Almost nothing in Warcraft is of accurate scale.
Stormwind is barely even the size of a village in comparison to the magnificent city that it takes hours to walk through in lore.
Illidan didn't use the Eye of Sargeras to destroy the Frozen Throne and Lich King. He was going to destroy the entire Northrend. He wanted to destroy the entire continent, burrying the Lich King and all else there was too it. The fact that he uses the Eye of Sargeras says nothing really of the power of the Lich King, since simply killing Arthas would've been adequate to kill the Lich King. Illidan wanted to destroy the entire lands of Northrend. For THAT, he wanted the Eye of Sargeras.
And as I said, Lich King was sent to Azeroth to serve Kil'Jaeden as a PUNISHMENT. The Dreadlords were his wardens and the ice was his prison. The fact that Kil'Jaeden used the ice he did, was because common ice isn't quite as usable. Why would he take unnecessary risks by using regular ice when he could just as easily take special ice? Again, this doesn't prove anything other than the fact that Kil'Jaeden wanted Ner'Zhul to stay put. Many prisons has extra tough protection even though they don't really need it. His being extra tough is proof of nothing.
Have you read the books? Kil'Jaeden was furious on Ner'Zhul. He was so angered that he punished him by tearing his soul from his body and imprisoned it in a prison of ice. Because Ner'Zhul gave EVERYTHING to not be involved with Kil'Jaeden, Kil'Jaeden punished him by FORCING him to serve him.
It was a punishment, and that's a FACT. Kil'Jaeden could've used anyone to control the Scourge. In fact, they didn't even need the Lich King. Archimonde proved very able to do so himself, when he removed Lich King from power and claimed the Scourge as his own.
There's no debating it really. Kil'Jaeden was punishing Ner'Zhul. It's written black on white. He imagined that what punishment could be worse for someone that hated Kil'Jaeden as much as Ner'Zhul did, than force him to serve him for all eternity?
According to feats and story, Ysera is more powerful mentally. That's a fact until Blizzard decide to change it. For now, it's not a debate either. Anything Lich King as done, she has done better. So for as long as that remains fact, it can't be argued that Lich King is more powerful.
It can be theorized, but it can't be stated. While it's true that Lich King has not done much with his appearance in World of Warcraft, that can't be used to claim he is more powerful. That's fallacious.