Originally posted by Master CourtYou've never actually read a wolverine comic. You just seen out of context scans posted by people..Here's someone I can work with.
Didn't Daredevil KO Logan by cracking a barbell into his face?
No, I'm not asking any questions I'm stating the truth. This much is obvious because everything you've said about Wolverine thus far has been incorrect.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You've never actually read a wolverine comic. You just seen out of context scans posted by people..No, I'm not asking any questions I'm stating the truth. This much is obvious because everything you've said about Wolverine thus far has been incorrect.
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way to work with him cresh . . .
Originally posted by Creshosk
You've never actually read a wolverine comic. You just seen out of context scans posted by people..No, I'm not asking any questions I'm stating the truth. This much is obvious because everything you've said about Wolverine thus far has been incorrect.
Co-signed.
What I find funny is that he once said Wolverine is one of his faves 😂 And yet he argues against him and pretends to know the character... 🙄
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What I find funny is that he once said Wolverine is one of his faves 😂 And yet he argues against him and pretends to know the character... 🙄
What the hell does arguing against someone have to do with liking them? Whether you like a character or not shouldn't have anything to do with who you think wins.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeWhile this is true, it becomes clear that such a statement was the kind of rhetoric I talked with you about.
What the hell does arguing against someone have to do with liking them? Whether you like a character or not shouldn't have anything to do with who you think wins.
"He's my favorite character, but he gets his ass kicked by everyone, despite what the comics show."
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What the hell does arguing against someone have to do with liking them? Whether you like a character or not shouldn't have anything to do with who you think wins.
Perhaps I should've been more precise. Well, when someone argues in that way, that is makes up things and ignores the context it becomes clear that character doesn't belong to his "favourites" list, doesn't it?
Originally posted by Creshosk
You've never actually read a wolverine comic. You just seen out of context scans posted by people..No, I'm not asking any questions I'm stating the truth. This much is obvious because everything you've said about Wolverine thus far has been incorrect.
Ok, maybe I can't work with ya'. But dammit I love you. If not just for your bullsh*t.
First. Punisher has, in fact, KO'd Spider-Man. It was a long ass f*cking time ago, but here's what happened; he was trying to snipe Shocker, Spider-Man kicked Shocker out of the way of the bullet, and then went after Punisher. A little time later, Punisher set the building on fire to throw off Spider-Man's spider sense. Punisher crept up behind him and KO'd him by cracking him upside the head with an M4 or similar gun. I read that issue when I was a kid, but I remember because it was cool that Punisher tricked Spider-Man.
Second, I have the entire story arc of when Wolverine took on the Hand. Sad fact is, I haven't read it in about a year or so, so my memory is obviously a little off. Now, I don't know how old you are, so I'm not gonna go on the attack. Instead, I'll try to direct you back to what this suppose to be. A debate. Unfortunately, what I'm debating can't really be proven either way. It's impossible to show a scan of Wolverine NOT being KO'd. And another huge problem is, I don't have a scanner. So even if I see it with my own two eyes, I can't prove it with a scan. And, again, I haven't even SEEN those Hand issues in f*cking forever.
Now, tell me, if you can, what exactly have I said about Wolverine that is not true?
He doesn't have super-speed.
He can be KO'd.
His body is not super-humanly durable, nor is his brain.
Gorgon killed him with a katana.
What's incorrect here?
EDIT: I'm going to go look for the Wolverine VS Hand story.
Originally posted by Master Court
Now, tell me, if you can, what exactly have I said about Wolverine that is not true?He doesn't have super-speed.
He can be KO'd.
His body is not super-humanly durable, nor is his brain.
Gorgon killed him with a katana.What's incorrect here?
You ignored my posts...? Very clever.
He does have super-speed, take a look at the previous page.
Of course he can.
You realize that his bone claws were able to cut through steel? And that it was stated that his skeleton is just as tough as them?
He KO'd Wolverine weakened from the fight with Hand ninjas and inhaling methane gas. Off-panel. He got killed later.
Originally posted by Master Court
It's impossible to show a scan of Wolverine NOT being KO'd.
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http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2995/781531114956215oa1.jpg
Originally posted by Creshosk
😐http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2995/781531114956215oa1.jpg
Oh! Hey. Well done.
I concede.
But I think Wolverine VS Rockslide would have to be a stalemate then.
EDIT: But I still didn't say anything untrue about Logan. Just understimated the KO part.
EDIT 2: I KNEW I could work you. That's why I love ya!
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWI think he has you on ignore.Epic fail. Wolverine DOES have superhuman speed.
[b]Originally posted by srank, fixed links by me.
Speed of thought. A severely weakened, Wolverine shows Psylocke that his thought and action are one in the same.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/__hr_Page21.jpg
An actually number, Wolverine's reaction time is .038 seconds.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2273/weaponxfirstclass020021em4.jpg
Wolverine blitzes four bikers, killing them all simultaneously.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/Wolverine_FtaS_025.jpgFaster than human eyes can follow.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3582/namortoofast2tw4.jpg
Again. Faster than the human eye can follow.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/855/fasterthaneyescanfollowpw5.jpg
Both Wolverine and Sabretooth are almost too fast for Psylocke to follow.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8915/sabesab5.jpg
Cyclops can't even track the Prime Sentinels, but Wolverine engages them in melee no problem.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3834/vnewsentinalfl6.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1060/vnewsentinal2sy1.jpgHe moves like lightning.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/mcp-38-30.jpg
Lightning reflexes.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/MCP-39-08.jpg
Nothing human could have moved that fast.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/Wolverine_n31-p04-1.jpg
Impossible. No one can move that fast.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/MCP-124b-06.jpg
A terrorists decides to take a shot at Wolverine from more than 20 feet away. The bullet grazes Wolverine's cheek and he speed blitzes his assailant, closing the ground between them instantly and severing the shooters arm.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8499/xmenv2133p03gm1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6867/bulletsidestepkq1.jpgWolverine cuts a barrage of arrows out of the air... and his claws were still sheathed in his arms when the arrows were fired.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3575/wolviemd1lucybutlerdcp0nx6.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6679/wolviemd1lucybutlerdcp0vc8.jpgWolverine displays some superhuman speed, moving as a blur.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/MCP-124b-07.jpg
Wolverine speed blitzes Domina, who herself was able to sole an group of X-Men
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/__hr_XM102pg21.jpg
Even Spider-man questions his speed in regards to Wolverine and wonders if Logan might be faster.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/SpidermanvsWolverine55.jpg
Wolverine is faster than Namor.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/n-24-14.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/n-24-15.jpgThe Weapon X Program wants to see how Wolverine fairs against a massive bear. He kills it before Hines can say "Four Minutes and twenty one seconds," too fast for the bear to even react.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/Versus%20Animals/Bear/Weapon_X_TPB_058.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/Versus%20Animals/Bear/Weapon_X_TPB_059.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/Versus%20Animals/Bear/Weapon_X_TPB_060.jpgWolverine blocks the barrel of a gun claws, after the trigger was pulled but before the bullet leaves the chamber.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/Wolverine_n43-p14-1.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/Wolverine_n43-p15-1.jpgWolverine slices a skintight suit of armor off Geist in the time it takes from him to say clean shave.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2959/wolverine40pe3.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7945/wolverine41gz4.jpgReplicates the feat against Doc Sampson.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/892/samsonripdp5.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6002/samsonrip2od2.jpgWolverine speed blitzes some Danger Room robots. He lets go his his cigars, trashes the robots and then grabs his cigars before they can start to descend.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6633/twosecondstt9.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4643/twoseconds3cd9.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5056/twoseconds2sy3.jpgWolverine avoids the blows of a group of Martial artists skilled to kill with a single blow, during a ritual / write of passage.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7449/villlagetm0.jpg
Nightcrawler is knocked from his perch and before he can fall the 10-20 feet into the fire bellow, Wolverine cuts a large section out of the wall and catches him.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7726/elfcatchinlv7.jpg
With a blade inches from his head, Wolverine turns at the last moment and blocks the thrust. He engages his assailant... and does a second last second dodge, while already engaged in combat when a second one attacks him from behind.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/MCP-133a-04.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/MCP-133a-05.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/MCP-133a-06.jpgWith a knife posed inches from his face, Wolverine punches his lunging attacker before the blade makes contact.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/New/mcp-109a-06.jpg
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Seriously dude, read some comics. [/B]
Originally posted by Master Court
He doesn't have super-speed.
He can be KO'd.
His body is not super-humanly durable, nor is his brain.
Gorgon killed him with a katana.What's incorrect here?
- check last page for a few dozen scans proving otherwise
- very very very difficult to accomplish
- yes it is as proven in all his fights against bricks, from roughhouse, to spidey, to colossus, to hulk
- stabbed him with a katana, then the scene ends. Wolverine is still very much alive at that point. The KO, and the death were off-panel.
So all of them are incorrect other than the KO part, which CAN be accomplished with great difficulty.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
- check last page for a few dozen scans proving otherwise
- very very very difficult to accomplish
- yes it is as proven in all his fights against bricks, from roughhouse, to spidey, to colossus, to hulk
- stabbed him with a katana, then the scene ends. Wolverine is still very much alive at that point. The KO, and the death were off-panel.So all of them are incorrect other than the KO part, which CAN be accomplished with great difficulty.
Quite a few of those, if not most of them, really seem to be more feats of fighting skill. A couple of which are taken too literally at the drawings. Wolverine can't speed blitz. The after image is just to show that he moves fast. That's reaction speed, not super-human movement speed. Like the knife thing. That's reaction. Do you know how fast people can punch? Even the average man?
No, he's not super humanly durable. His HF is all that keeps him alive. And his unbreakable adamantium bones help as well.
I suppose you're right on the last point. But, it's probably almost impossible to beat Logan to death. Gorgon's only offensive power - that is, a power that isn't passive like super strength, etc - is an insta-kill that makes you stone. So if Gorgon didn't use the sword; wtf?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Makes sense. Replying to my post would be very inconvenient for you.
Yes. You're an inconvenient person. When I'm already debating with another dude that's making better points than you, why waste my time? Besides, he proved his point. You haven't. Wolverine doesn't have super human speed. He has good reaction time. Obviously. Good reflexes. Of course. He's extremely well trained and is oozing battle experience. His body is in peak condition, so he can move quite fast and is agile. But he's not even as fast as Cap. Cap has ran across rooms to protect people from gunfire even after the shot has been fired. Wolverine either eats the bullets, or gets grazed. And Cap is officially not superhuman. Cap is even faster than Daredevil. You know how? Daredevil doesn't have superhuman speed either. And Daredevil had no problem besting Logan, even if barely. So Wolverine is NOT super fast. Just really fast for a man whose physical-fitness level is within human range.
