Originally posted by Rhinoceros
I actually have a scan of Wolverine being KOed by a normal human. (IIRC it was a mafioso or something like that) It happened on the pages of his own serie. The guy KOed him and put him into the trunk of his car and drove somewhere.I'll post it tomorrow when I'll hook up the old computer.
Wolverine faked being knocked out so he could find out where the dirty cop buried the bodies of the people he had previously killed. It happens in issue 189.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're trolling. Period.Edit:
I don't want to post a respect thread. You wanna educate yourself - go there.
To be fair you did once try to argue that a mindcontrolled Wolverine looked better against DD. We forgot about the mindcontrol and soul thingy and we were simply arguing who looked better......I gotta admit that was ridiculous.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
To be fair you did once try to argue that a mindcontrolled Wolverine looked better against DD. We forgot about the mindcontrol and soul thingy and we were simply arguing who looked better......I gotta admit that was ridiculous.
Yes, that was indeed ridiculous.
Wolverine sent him flying across the room with a kick, hit him in the solar plexus, slashed his chest.
What has DD done? Aside from using Hand ninjas as human shields and giving Logan back his mental freedom?
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Stalled him. Which was the plan from the get-go.
Actually it was Matt who was the bait. Gorgon killed Elektra and her team.
"Finish him. In for the kill. Another eight minutes before S.H.I.E.L.D. teams get here anyway."
If Logan hadn't stopped responding to Strucker's commands, DD would probably have gotten killed.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually it was Matt who was the bait. Gorgon killed Elektra and her team."Finish him. In for the kill. Another eight minutes before S.H.I.E.L.D. teams get here anyway."
If Logan hadn't stopped responding to Strucker's commands, DD would probably have gotten killed.
Umm....the Gorgon's taking of Elektra was the counter-plan. The initial plan was Murdock stall Wolverine while Elektra and a team of SHIELD operatives take him out.
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Basically Elektra figures Wolverine would take out Murdock so she stakes out his house together with a shield team so they can capture Wolverine when he shows up. Only Gorgon realizes Elektra would do this so decides to take her instead of Murdock.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Umm....the Gorgon's taking of Elektra was the counter-plan. The initial plan was Murdock stall Wolverine while Elektra and a team of SHIELD operatives take him out.http://img17.imageshack.us/i/elektraplan1.jpg/
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http://img210.imageshack.us/i/w2404.jpg/Basically Elektra figures Wolverine would take out Murdock so she stakes out his house together with a shield team so they can capture Wolverine when he shows up. Only Gorgon realizes Elektra would do this so decides to take her instead of Murdock.
Logan was warned about Elektra. He knew that Gorgon watched his back.
Originally posted by Master Court
Ok, maybe I can't work with ya'. But dammit I love you. If not just for your bullsh*t.First. Punisher has, in fact, KO'd Spider-Man. It was a long ass f*cking time ago, but here's what happened; he was trying to snipe Shocker, Spider-Man kicked Shocker out of the way of the bullet, and then went after Punisher. A little time later, Punisher set the building on fire to throw off Spider-Man's spider sense. Punisher crept up behind him and KO'd him by cracking him upside the head with an M4 or similar gun. I read that issue when I was a kid, but I remember because it was cool that Punisher tricked Spider-Man.
Second, I have the entire story arc of when Wolverine took on the Hand. Sad fact is, I haven't read it in about a year or so, so my memory is obviously a little off. Now, I don't know how old you are, so I'm not gonna go on the attack. Instead, I'll try to direct you back to what this suppose to be. A debate. Unfortunately, what I'm debating can't really be proven either way. It's impossible to show a scan of Wolverine NOT being KO'd. And another huge problem is, I don't have a scanner. So even if I see it with my own two eyes, I can't prove it with a scan. And, again, I haven't even SEEN those Hand issues in f*cking forever.
Now, tell me, if you can, what exactly have I said about Wolverine that is not true?
He doesn't have super-speed.
He can be KO'd.
His body is not super-humanly durable, nor is his brain.
Gorgon killed him with a katana.What's incorrect here?
EDIT: I'm going to go look for the Wolverine VS Hand story.
Originally posted by BUSTER1
The Spiderman/Punisher story you're referring to is the story entitled Vengeance-which ran from issues 32-34 of Spiderman, in the early 90's.
The vilain in that story wasn't Shocker, but a character who called himself "The Master of Vengeance". The MOV had a costume which harnessed electromagnetic energy in the air to fire out destructive blasts. Frank damaged the costume which was going to blow up and take out the building which he, Spiderman and MOV were in. Spider being Spidey refused to leave MOV (even though he was the villain). Punisher tookm advantage of the fact that Spidey's SS was overloaded by the danger of the MOV's suit and kno0cked him out from behind with the butt of his assault rifle, so he could carry Pete to safety. Frank didn't trick Spiderman, -he took advantage of Spiderman being preoccupied to save him from himself.
Woah. Cool. I didn't remember nearly that much. I always remembered it that Punisher set the fire to get the chance to KO Spidey. But since you filled me in, it all sounds very familiar. Thanks for that.
They were my older brothers comics, so I only got to read them a few times back in the day, but I liked that one in particular. Showed that normal humans still matter in a world with a thousand super heroes and super villains.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He was also one of the topdogs in the superhero wrestling community, until the powerbroker faked a drugtest.
I didn't read that arc. Or was that the Kingmaker one? It was kinda similar but I can't quite remember what happened to Santo when they refused to do what the Kingmaker wanted.
Either way, Santo is very strong. Dunno where Battlehammer was going with that one.
Originally posted by The Pict
I didn't read that arc. Or was that the Kingmaker one? It was kinda similar but I can't quite remember what happened to Santo when they refused to do what the Kingmaker wanted.Either way, Santo is very strong. Dunno where Battlehammer was going with that one.
I meant Kingmaker. Get him mixed up with Powerbroker 🙂
But yeah, Santo's probably not among the top dogs in strength. He's still got more than enough power to knock out Wolverine. It's also difficult to note the properties of his explosion.
i dont think a character needs to lift an object to cement his strength class, it helps but not necessary...
i think we can gather from how colossus has manhandled him and how he crumbled under hulk to be far below those two in strength..
i would say he is more or less around the 80 ton mark..
just my assumption
Originally posted by Master Court
Woah. Cool. I didn't remember nearly that much. I always remembered it that Punisher set the fire to get the chance to KO Spidey. But since you filled me in, it all sounds very familiar. Thanks for that.
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You're welcome
They were my older brothers comics, so I only got to read them a few times back in the day, but I liked that one in particular. Showed that normal humans still matter in a world with a thousand super heroes and super villains.
I like Frank too. As much as the other heroes deride his methods, he will have no hesitation in helping them out.
