Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is what I am saying, Milady. It's a useless argument that will go on forever.
No it's not. There never was an argument even before the movies. However, since Origins, we now have better than perfect evidence that a lightsaber cannot cut through adamantium.
Originally posted by dadudemon
the blast doors from Ep1 which are comparable to the blast doors from Wolverine Orgins. Adamantium also showed extreme resistance to heat.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, dudes, adamantium cannot be cut by a lightsaber.There's no if ands or buts about it. It simply cannot be cut.
Using movie feats alone, it cannot be cut by a lightsaber.
If we use the canon EU, it only makes the case all the more stronger.
There is no longer a debate on whether or not a lightsaber can cut adamantium. I have destroyed the idea. It doesn't even scratch it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
In fact, it has already been shown how adamantium is resistant to an energy-heat type attacks that are superior to the "cutting" ability of a lightsaber.A lightsaber's cutting ability comes from its extreme heat. The blade is plasma, contained in a field.
Originally posted by dadudemon
They [Wolverine's adamantium blades) seemed to resist the hot optic blast from Weapon XI, just fine. Didn't change them at all. The optic blast seems to cut through many feet of reinforced concrete, very very quickly. (Almost instantly.) That puts it on par or greater than a lightsaber's ability to cut. We see the limit of the light saber being those blast doors that were not nearly as thick as the cooling tower, and it was taking quite a bit of effort to cut through them.
Just because you guys say that it can't be proven or that we don't have evidence, doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist.
No matter how many times your repeat that it's not known, it still doesn't change the fact that it is no longer debatable. Using the EU, it wasn't debatable. Now that we have Origins, it's no longer debatable for the movies.
There is no debate. A lightsaber cannot cut through true adamantium.
If you guys can debunk the already impeccable logic I've presented by proving that it can cut through adamantium, with movie canon sources, be my guest. (You can't, which is why I offered. A lightsaber cannot cut through adamantium, going by movie feats. Hell, going by movie feats, a lightsaber can barely cut through thick metal.)
Originally posted by Morgromir
the question now is what is the effect the metal has on the lightsaber when it reflects it
will it short it out or make it bounce off?
i am still voting for Maul because he has faster reflexes and a longer sword ,not claws that are around 6 in. long
I'm guessing that since adamantium has never shown the ability, in the comics or in the movies, to disrupt a plasmic field, it cannot disrupt a plasmic blade, such as a lightsaber.
So, Maul's blades are safe.
He's just not cutting through Wolverine, anytime soon. Stabbing, yes. I don't see why Wolvie can't be stabbed, repeatedly.
Originally posted by dadudemonWas adamantium shown resisting a lightsaber in Origins? No. No matter what you say, no matter the angle of your argument, in the end, we'll never know.
No it's not. There never was an argument even before the movies. However, since Origins, we now have better than perfect evidence that a lightsaber cannot cut through adamantium.
Originally posted by MorgromirMaul force chokes Wolvie out. End of story.
the question now is what is the effect the metal has on the lightsaber when it reflects it
will it short it out or make it bounce off?
i am still voting for Maul because he has faster reflexes and a longer sword ,not claws that are around 6 in. long
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Was adamantium shown resisting a lightsaber in Origins? No. No matter what you say, no matter the angle of your argument, in the end, we'll never know.
You mean, no matter what I say, no matter the angle of my argument, you'll never acknowledge that a lightsaber will certainly not cut adamantium.
And, yes, we do know.
A lightsaber is a plasma blade. Really hot. XI's optic blast has both an immense kinetic energy and enormous heat that go with it. Both of which exceed a lightsaber. (No user can or has used a force great enough to equal the force XI's optic blast showed. Nor has a lightsaber shown to instantly vaporize 10+feet of concrete, instantly.)
Since we know what a lightsaber's cutting power is, extreme heat in a force field, we can adaquately measure against other forms of extreme heat against a lightsaber. (Yes, I'm talking heat of vaporization....physics.)
Basically, you don't have to do any thinking at all, RJ. A lightsaber cannot cut adamantium because adamantium can withstand something hotter than a lightsaber, no problem, and it can withstand a force much greater than any lightsaber wielding user could employ.
In other words, no matter what you believe, not matter the angle of your interpretation, there's no way a lightsaber comes close to being able to cut wolvie's adamantium, going by movie feats alone.