Originally posted by jinzinIn a sparring match you don't actually try to hurt your partner.As for this "training" session... It was a SPARRING match, if you can't understand the implications of a sparring match, I can only assume you've never really sparred or have only done so in a point system fasion. In sparring.. you get hit, period. 😐
No one is intentionally elbowing anyone in the face or kneeing them, not unless they want to train by themselves.
Originally posted by Mindsetperhaps, BUT, you're also not necessarily surprised if you get hit with one of those either, as it's habbit and it happens, comes with the territory. Given that on top of Petey's powerset anything made up to excuse why he was hit is... well... an excuse..
In a sparring match you don't actually try to hurt your partner.No one is intentionally elbowing anyone in the face or kneeing them, not unless they want to train by themselves.
Originally posted by Juk3n
You actually believe that? This isn't a case of him just dodging, it's a fight aswell, he has to get in close to land a hit and in their will come the question of his CQC compentence, it's all well him being told by his spider-sense an attack is on the way, it's a different story actually getting out of the way of said attack, especially if it's dealt by someone with comparable speed. Your statement is all kinds of wrong really.I mean with your logic, anyone who has ever dodged a bullet , should also never get hit..well hell that would be all the goddamn street levelrs in history of MA characters.
But it doesn't matter. Spidey has dodged homing lasers, and machine gun fire easily. Now we know that he isn't as fast as light yet he has pre-cog and great enough speed to dodge light. So even if these guys were faster than Spidey the spider-sense speed combination is undefeatable.
Originally posted by jinzinI'd be pretty surprised if I was being intentionally kneed and elbowed going full speed in a sparring match.
perhaps, BUT, you're also not necessarily surprised if you get hit with one of those either, as it's habbit and it happens, comes with the territory. Given that on top of Petey's powerset anything made up to excuse why he was hit is... well... an excuse..
And I'm sure Peter would try a lot harder to dodge claws than a fist, which he knows he can take.
But I don't really know what the example was brought up for, so w/e.
Originally posted by Mindset
I'd be pretty surprised if I was being intentionally kneed and elbowed going full speed in a sparring match.And I'm sure Peter would try a lot harder to dodge claws than a fist, which he knows he can take.
But I don't really know what the example was brought up for, so w/e.
And what was that intentional about the MK spidey incident?
You're changing up your scenario to fit your POV.
I didn't say anything about intentional knees and bows, what I said was that it wouldn't or at least SHOULDN'T be that surprising to you in a sparring match.
Wolverine's claws were ALREADY out... Again, powers were ON, he counter attacked Logan, and was continuing to do so when he got hit.. There's really no excuse to give him ESPECIALLY with his power set that doesn't come off as some sort of excuse.
Originally posted by jinzinWolverine stabbing Spiderman in the chest was unintentional?
And what was that intentional about the MK spidey incident?You're changing up your scenario to fit your POV.
I didn't say anything about intentional knees and bows, what I said was that it wouldn't or at least SHOULDN'T be that surprising to you in a sparring match.
Wolverine's claws were ALREADY out... Again, powers were ON, he counter attacked Logan, and was continuing to do so when he got hit.. There's really no excuse to give him ESPECIALLY with his power set that doesn't come off as some sort of excuse.
So a scientist and a hardened killer vs two hardened killers, hm?
I think that the problem for team 1 is that both fighters on team 2 recover so swiftly, whereas Spiderman is much more easily down and out permanently.
Bloodlust or no, I feel team 2 will eventually end up doubleteaming wolverine, and he cannot realistically beat them.
Originally posted by Mindset
How do you accidentally stab someone in the chest when the claws are attached to his hand and that's what he was aiming for?Do you have the scan?
Uh...huh... 😐
And yet your position is that you understand how sparring works... hm.
I dunno, maybe Wolverine gave Spiderman too much credit in the speed/reflex department, maybe he overcompensated for the webbing he was getting hit with.. it's really not my place to say, point is he hit Spidey, and said it was an accident. You can keep trying to discredit the feat all you like, again, under the circumstances with his powerset nothing you can say in his defense comes off as any more than an excuse. 😬
Originally posted by jinzinYea, I do understand how sparring works, how did anything I just wrote show that I don't?
Uh...huh... 😐And yet your position is that you understand how sparring works... hm.
I dunno, maybe Wolverine gave Spiderman too much credit in the speed/reflex department, maybe he overcompensated for the webbing he was getting hit with.. it's really not my place to say, point is he hit Spidey, and said it was an accident. You can keep trying to discredit the feat all you like, again, under the circumstances with his powerset nothing you can say in his defense comes off as any more than an excuse. 😬
So you don't have the scan?