Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Actually yeah he did. Juggs specifically says, with a smile, "I'm not as fast as you runts, so I can take some stabbing to let you get in close. It was worth it".
I get your point but that doesn't nececsarily mean he allowed himself to get kicked to the ground. He specifically said stabbing not getting kicked to the ground. He could have just stood still.
Lets put it this way Juggernaut has never showed superspeed and he has ultmately been drastically depowered so why would he show superspeed now? The beam was making a "wzzzzhhhh" indicating it wasn't just a platform he ran on. Heck you can run off the roof of a truck while it's going 40mph and the 40mph isn't actually your running speed.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Lets put it this way Juggernaut has never showed superspeed and he has ultmately been drastically depowered so why would he show superspeed now? The beam was making a "wzzzzhhhh" indicating it wasn't just a platform he ran on. Heck you can run off the roof of a truck while it's going 40mph and the 40mph isn't actually your running speed.
Yeah, it was a platform made of SOUND on water. Who knows what something the size and weight of Juggernaut would sound like while running on it. Besides, he has already done the same type of thing in an earlier TBolts' issue and showed some speed, literally kicking up huge dust trails.
Actually looking back at that scan, I think that noise is just the water being pushed away.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Yeah, it was a platform made of SOUND on water. Who knows what something the size and weight of Juggernaut would sound like while running on it. Besides, he has already done the same type of thing in an earlier TBolts' issue and showed some speed, literally kicking up huge dust trails.Actually looking back at that scan, I think that noise is just the water being pushed away.
Yes I know it was made from sound and I know she has developed her abilities she can accelerate her constructs as before she could only glide with her wings before now she doesn't have to. Knocking up dirt doesn't indicate superspeed, heck Puck has done that.
wzzsshh is a sound commonly used for wind effects
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
It is pretty clear they were indicating speed in the earlier issue.That sound is the waves breaking as Juggernaut takes each stride on the sound bridge. She wasn't accelerating him.
Thats not a clear indication of speed, heck he has sone similar things non-depowered.
Proof?
In that same issue he is running by Cage in a blur and his legs are blurred out in another panel. Before that scan I just posted he is barreling through the woods at very high speeds as indicated by the art. The only differences between these two instances is that one takes place on a sound bridge and in one panel while previous takes place over several panels and the whole "after-image" art effect thing is not needed. It is clear he is moving very fast.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
In that same issue he is running by Cage in a blur and his legs are blurred out in another panel. Before that scan I just posted he is barreling through the woods at very high speeds as indicated by the art. The only differences between these two instances is that one takes place on a sound bridge and in one panel while previous takes place over several panels and the whole "after-image" art effect thing is not needed. It is clear he is moving very fast.
Once again nothing new for him, and Thing has done something similar not to long ago.
He is moving fast most likely due to the sound construct speeding him up.
Originally posted by -K-M-Cain actually has been drawn to deliberately demonstrate superspeed in the past.
Lets put it this way Juggernaut has never showed superspeed and he has ultmately been drastically depowered so why would he show superspeed now? The beam was making a "wzzzzhhhh" indicating it wasn't just a platform he ran on. Heck you can run off the roof of a truck while it's going 40mph and the 40mph isn't actually your running speed.
In New Excalibur he was running away and didn't realize he ran into the front of a bus.
In earlier Thunderbolts Comics he was shown to speed blitz the terrigin mist monsters in a blur.
I mean I don't think they are giving him quicksilver level speed but I could see it being closer to Hulk level speed.
Originally posted by Newjak
Cain actually has been drawn to deliberately demonstrate superspeed in the past.In New Excalibur he was running away and didn't realize he ran into the front of a bus.
In earlier Thunderbolts Comics he was shown to speed blitz the terrigin mist monsters in a blur.
I mean I don't think they are giving him quicksilver level speed but I could see it being closer to Hulk level speed.
Oh definetly Hulk level, I know people on other boards claimed he was a legit speedster now. That is what I have issue, especially when this feat can be chalked up to Songbird aswell though
