The Juggernaut...show some respect! (Redux)

Started by Ptr_Grifin39 pages
Originally posted by KingD19
If he wasn't a bad guy, he wouldn't have let Hyperion get killed(I'm assuming by Man-Thing) etc...

Was it said somewhere that Hyperion was killed?

Which version of Juggernaut was stronger, the Thunderbolts or the New Excalubur/X-Men version?

I'm leaning toward Thunderbolts. Despite the first few mishaps, he had some decent showings in the last arc.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Was it said somewhere that Hyperion was killed?

He was already near death from that extreme overdose of whatever radiation hurts him by Ghost. And then I'm assuming Man-Thing burned what was left.

IF he's not dead they had to take some counter-measures to keep him from coming back and ****ing them all over again.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Which version of Juggernaut was stronger, the Thunderbolts or the New Excalubur/X-Men version?

Easily the T-bolts Juggernaut. His durability is the only thing that seems to have taken a hit.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I'm leaning toward Thunderbolts. Despite the first few mishaps, he had some decent showings in the last arc.
True, but X-Men Juggernaut has some good showings against Sasquatch, Rhino, and a 3 man Alpha Flight squad. Sh!t he didn't do all that bad against WWHulk all things considered. Either way it's going to be interesting to see where his story goes in the next few months.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
True, but X-Men Juggernaut has some good showings against Sasquatch, Rhino, and a 3 man Alpha Flight squad. Sh!t he didn't do all that bad against WWHulk all things considered. Either way it's going to be interesting to see where his story goes in the next few months.

I would think that current Juggernaut would fare better against Rhino and Sasquatch. The only thing that seems to have actually taken him down so far was that mutated Shield agent's blood. I don't recall Juggernaut being said to still be unstoppable during his first major de-powerment, while current can still build up a charge.

Hopefully Fear Itself will undo what the Uni-power did to his connection with Cyttorak.

Also to note that was an upgraded Rhino too.

I seriously hope the rumors are not true, that they may strip Juggernaut completly of his powers after Fear Itself.

Even with his durability down, Juggernaut still tangoed with King Hyperion, who of course would have demolished everyone Huggernaut went up against. He didn't win on his own of course, but as was stated, his durability took a huge hit and he's relying on his HF alot now.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Also to note that was an upgraded Rhino too.

I seriously hope the rumors are not true, that they may strip Juggernaut completly of his powers after Fear Itself.

Where did you hear that they may strip them? I heard Colossus may get the power or whatever but I'm thinking that's just a cover-up for something.

Originally posted by KingD19
and he's relying on his HF alot now.

He can't regenerate anymore.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I seriously hope the rumors are not true, that they may strip Juggernaut completely of his powers after Fear Itself.

I'm curious as well, were did you read about that?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He can't regenerate anymore.

I thought it said his healing factor couldn't burn out the nanobots, or whatever they are called?

It sounds like he might get a push during Fear Itself.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He can't regenerate anymore.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin

I thought it said his healing factor couldn't burn out the nanobots, or whatever they are called?

He has to have a Healing Factor, otherwise he wouldn't have been fine so fast after getting burned by those monsters, or walking after Hyperion smashed his leg to the point he shouldn't have been able to stand.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Juggernaut is bad and he needs to stay bad.

edit: Can someone, anyone post Juggernauts more impressive showings in Thunderbolts? I haven't had the opportunity to go through them all yet.

If you mean bad as in will beat the crap out of strangers that talk shit to him, but is loyal to his team mates then yea.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
True, but X-Men Juggernaut has some good showings against Sasquatch, Rhino, and a 3 man Alpha Flight squad.

I don't think any of those guys are as powerful as Hyperion and juggs could have won a straight fist fight.

Originally posted by juggernaut74

Sh!t he didn't do all that bad against WWHulk all things considered. Either way it's going to be interesting to see where his story goes in the next few months.

Didn't do much better than Thing.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Where did you hear that they may strip them? I heard Colossus may get the power or whatever but I'm thinking that's just a cover-up for something.

I have seen several people discussing it on several boards, but it's ONLY a rumor and not fact.

Finally! More stuff to add.

A pretty impressive strength feat for this depowered Juggernaut:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Thor%20v%20Celestial/Thunderbolts/Thunderbolts152021.jpg

Battles Thor, Iron Man and Luke Cage:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0021.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0022.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0023.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0024.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0029.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0030.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0031.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0032.jpg

note: Thor still can't put Juggernaut down.

Slugs it out with King Hyperion:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153014.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153015.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153016.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153018.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153019.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153020.jpg

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

note: Thor still can't put Juggernaut down.

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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Finally! More stuff to add.

A pretty impressive strength feat for this depowered Juggernaut:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Thor%20v%20Celestial/Thunderbolts/Thunderbolts152021.jpg

Battles Thor, Iron Man and Luke Cage:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0021.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0022.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0023.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0024.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0029.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0030.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0031.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Absorbing%20Man/Battle/Thunderbolts/t-bolts_150_0032.jpg

note: Thor still can't put Juggernaut down.

Slugs it out with King Hyperion:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153014.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153015.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153016.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153018.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153019.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153020.jpg

Not Thor can put Juggernaut down and has before. They've fought three times I'll remind you since you never read them

First time Thor didn't want to kill Juggernaut so he simply threw him in another dimension
Second time Thor found out Juggernauts been a bad boy and was ready to kill him. Took off Juggernauts shield and almost killed him but the 60 seconds was up and his shield came back just in time, Even Juggernaut admits this.
Third time. After Thor just got done battle three brother one of which was omnipotent and capable of taking on Odin guess who walks in? Juggernaut but Juggernaut just had a powerboast and was being tugged some where and a WEAKENED Thor still tried to fight him but didn't do so well because HE JUST GOT DONE FIGHTING THREE GUYS ONE OF WHICH WAS OMNIPOTENT. While Juggernaut was fresh and got amped up to fight some other avatars.

So In reaility if Thor wanted to he wouldn't only beat Juggernaut but he'd kill him. In a comic gladiator Threw juggernaut across the ocean lol after the cartoon where he did that why can't Thor beat him?

That book isnt canon to 616. I mean the Gladiator one.